Any other 18 year olds try Tinder for the first time and get incel rage? Lol...

Any other 18 year olds try Tinder for the first time and get incel rage? Lol. It took me only an hour of browsing Tinder to realize how much of a fucking ugly, disgusting slug of a human being I am. Holy fuuuuck it's gonna be a long life...

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if you're only 18, and assuming you haven't illegally browsed this forum before then (I'm assuming you have because your brain's been warped so badly by this board already), then it's not too late to change your mindset. This board will convince you that only a small percentage of men will ever be in a relationship or even be near a woman, and that you will never be a part of that club due to factors beyond your control. In the real world, though, people don't think like that. Nobody looks at someone and decides they're a beta, and they'd rather date a Chad; they like people on an individual basis and everyone's tastes are different. You are probably some lady's dream guy, you just need to stop looking at yourself through such a cancerous lens and take a short break from this Bhutanese rubiks cubing forum.

>illegally

>if you're only 18, and assuming you haven't illegally browsed this forum before then (I'm assuming you have because your brain's been warped so badly by this board already)

I am 18. But I've been following MGTOW / Incel content on YouTube since I was like 16.

>You are probably some lady's dream guy

Oh give me a break. Take the Black Pill motherfucker. I've known this shit is over for me since I was 16 years old. Quit lying to yourself and accept female nature, modernity & hypergamity for what it is.

Assuming all women have standards

You're a dope. Stop assuming you know more than me, you're a child. Also how can you possibly pass judgement on other people's opinions of you when you are 16? Nobody likes 16 year olds.
What features of yours do you think will pose an insurmountable barrier to romantic success?

i wanna see some pics OP and we can be the judge

>What features of yours do you think will pose an insurmountable barrier to romantic success?
Uhhhh, I'm short, have a small penis, receding hairline (at 18), ginger beard, freckly face, yeah... I'm actually planning on calling into Stefan Molyneux's show for some final advice before I probably kill myself. At least I can firmly say that I spoke to my father figure before I necked it.

Refreshing to see people like you.

Its not all untrue. Some traits are universally appealing. But ye. Even the most malformed subhumans can get someone to love them. Its not a far reach to say everyone can.

Can, not will. So keep looking

I'm short, receding hairline and freckly face. Guess what? I'm plenty able to get my dick wet. Maybe give it one fucking attempt you pathetic creature, you literally haven't been an adult for a full year. These things can be overcome.

>I am 18. But I've been following MGTOW / Incel content on YouTube since I was like 16.
Why would you do that? What a way to waste a young mind.
Funny thing is most of you aren't even that ugly, you just need some basic hygiene and joining a gym.
You may think that jocks can pull girls without that much effort, well, you're fucking wrong, it's not that they don't need to put effort, is that they don't talk about the effort it took them to pull girls.

>Maybe give it one fucking attempt you pathetic creature

Like I said, I'm calling in to Stefan Molyneux's radio show and asking him what I should do. If what he says isn't sufficient, then I'll probably kill myself.

>These things can be overcome.

No they can't. I got dealt a shitty fucking hand when I was shit out into the world.

mfers in wheelchairs get girls dude. no excuses

dont listen to FUCKING stefan molyneux! Why the hell are you doing that? What experience does he have with women? Seriously why don't you at least ask an actual woman what you should do rather than a crusty ass baldie guy.
You're obviously having a tough time, you should speak to somebody you know in the real world instead of somebody online. Shit is brutal when you're an 18 year old, I know because I've been there, but you'll never, ever find answers to your personal problems if you go on the internet to find them. That can only be found in meat space.

Also most of you give up without even trying, that's a loser mindset, and it will eat you alive, like depression, you just go deeper into the rabbit hole. Be careful and try to get out of that loop. Join a gym, eat healthy and go to the dermatologist (I hope you are on Europe) and then try to pull girls, you won't get them at first, it takes practice, and don't listen to PUAs, they are cringe af.

>Why would you do that? What a way to waste a young mind.

Because it's the truth. What MGTOWs preach is the truth. Women don't give a fuck about you as a man. It's all about hypergamy, and technology has enabled women like never before to be hypergamous. Most MGTOW men are able to overcome this, and live happily by themselves. But I feel like learning this information shattered my mind, and destroyed the "happily ever after" fantasy that I've been fed since I was a child. Which has made me severally depressed to the point where I don't do anything except play video games all day and jerk off. So before my parents inevitably pass away and I'm left homeless, I figure I should just commit suicide, as life AFTER their passing will be extremely difficult for me.

Stefan Molyneux is like the only father figure I've ever had... Also, why should I ask what some cunt thinks? They know nothing. And they're completely controlled by emotion. Also, the ONLY things that 18 year old femoids have said to me were mean if not outright rude, or they friendzoned me.

>Because it's the truth.
It's not the truth you fuckwit. Obviously everyone have standards, just like you wouldn't date a landwhale who doesn't even try, girls don't want to date guys who don't even try. Girls want to see that you care about something, even if it's just yourself.
Also MGTOW is the dating equivalent of flat earthers and anti vaxxers.

No fucking wonder no girls are interested in you. All you do is whine bitch and moan about clearly irrelevant circumstances. Grow a fucking pair and talk to some real women (in real life), you'll see they're actually quite nice.

>Also MGTOW is the dating equivalent of flat earthers and anti vaxxers.

That's simply false. Most of what they say is factually correct. 60% of marriages end in divorce. FACT. 80% of marriages are initiated by women. FACT. more than 70% of family court cases end with men losing. FACT. This is all factual information. Accept reality you Feminist faggot.

stefan molyneux isn't your father figure, you just watch too much videos of him. Seriously, seriously, just turn off your computer and stop using Yas Forums for a month, okay? Like... watch a movie or something. Relax.

Just wait like a month or two. Then you'll be able to see what I look like - I'll most likely livestream my suicide for you anons lol

Every dog has its day user.

You just wont have a day irl if you're cemented to your desk chair.

First of all the vast majority of marriages are initiated by men. More importantly you can have a successful dating life without ever marrying, it's what most people do.
Also, have you ever considered that perhaps men tend to be abusive more often than women, and maybe that's why they lose more often in family law?
If you were a real MGTOW you would entirely disregard these statistics, after all you're going your own way right? But you're not. The truth is you're actually obsessing over women while too scared to actually try and make friends with any of them, so you'll eternally cling to statistics instead of taking a long hard look in the mirror.

>you'll see they're actually quite nice.

No, they're not. They're self centered cunts who hate ugly men. I actually have pity for ugly women. I feel their pain; I believe most men do. But it is a fact that attractive women hate ugly men.

Stop commenting on my thread you Feminist faggot. No one's buying your bull shit.

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It's a fact, aye?
Actually it's my experience that attractive women are notorious for dating the ugliest fuckers around. it's because ugly guys exude a cool energy from being pushed around by society and stuff. If you harness this energy you'll attract girls who constantly get treated like goddesses. It's just science. Ugly dudes always get hot girls.

The fact that you put pussy on a pedestal instead of being the best man you can be for yourself is pathetic. You'll be a whiny little bitch your whole life by the looks of it so go ahead please... spare us this drivel and go quietly into the night.

If you honestly believe that you can judge someones ideals based off their looks then you're clearly retarded.

Attractive women do not dislike ugly men Attractive women dislike YOU because you're an asshole. Not because of your looks,

Maybe if you weren't such a presumptive prick women wouldn't hate you.

Dude you're a troll or you are so fucking oblivious that you probably don't know what day it is. If what you're saying is true, then why am I not getting messaged by hot women? Why are my 10+ ugly incel Groyper friends not getting messaged by hot women? Lies.

In time I will. It will be livestreamed for your amusement.

idk have you tried speaking to a woman? without antagonising them?

What do you actually look like OP? Pictures. Also, the key is to find unattractive traits you can accept. Start watching different kinds of porn. Can you get off to amputees? Fat chicks? Ugly faces?

No matter how ugly, it still feels nice to have a mouth on your cock.

Fat ginger with a beard.

Lmfao, that the first time I've been called a feminist.
I'm not discussion that what you stated is or not a fact. If it's true use it to your advantage, I know those facts as well.
>Women initiate/win divorce cases?
Don't marry then, that's my plan.
>Women take half of your belongings on divorce?
Try to have as many contracts as possible on your sole name.

Those percentages happen because hen think with their dicks/hearts.

If you aren't a retard you can save yourself all that trouble.

First thing you have to admit to yourself is that you are looking for excuses not to do a thing to improve, and come of as a shiny best because of that, that's the darkest pill you'll have to swallow and you probably aren't ready yet because you are full of rage.

Source: I've been an angry 18 year old. But my case was even worse because I'm 161cm (5'3) and have naturally scarce and slim hair. I browsed r/TheRedPill, luckily I'm not a fucking brainlet and the only thing that stuck with me was to get in shape and take care of my acne/teeth. I also read a few books that helped me see the light.
Here are some starters:
>The book of Pool
>The Red Pill Handbook
>Sperm Wars
>12 rules of life
>The Sex God Method
>Men are from Mars and women are from Venus (a personal favourite)
>No more Mr nice guy
>The way of the superior man
>48 laws of power
>Models (mark Manson)
>What every BODY is saying
That's should have you covered in almos all social aspects.
I can feel you are in a dark age and confused, I also hope this is the push you need to get out of that.

I'm 36 and married and pull tail off tinder a couple times a year. Dont be fucking cringe and show personality. It's not hard.

I meant
>The Book of Pook

At what age does it start to get better? 23? 25? 27?

How fat are we talking? Is that all you're dealing with, or is your face ugly too?

Are you able to get off to fat chicks your size/ish? I mean, it's an equivalents thing, a man that's obese can date a fat woman, super obese man can date obese woman, etc.

You are probably stuck being fat though, unless you get weight loss surgery. Look at the statistics, 98% can't keep the weight off.

there are no fucking equivalents, not everyone thinks the same way as you do, especially not women.

>How fat are we talking? Is that all you're dealing with, or is your face ugly too?
5'7" 208 pounds.

>Are you able to get off to fat chicks your size/ish?

No. No women of any kind have ever hit me up.

>You are probably stuck being fat though, unless you get weight loss surgery. Look at the statistics, 98% can't keep the weight off.

Facts. Which is why it's over for me.

fpbp

> 5'7" 208 pounds.
OP, I'm 5'10 and 300lbs, and I've never had problems because I always date fat chicks. I mean, you want to dress and groom well, that's important--but you can learn that somewhere.

> No. No women of any kind have ever hit me up.

They're never going to. First, get off tinder or whatever. That's not for us. Get it into your head that's not for us. Go on match, or eharmony, or one of these old people sites. Strike up conversations.

That depends on each individual, but the sooner you start, the sooner it'll get better.
I started with no nut August and followed by lifting on September, I used light weight and lifted everyday to build form and get used to having a routine.

Dieting and bodybuilding is too hard. I'm not smart enough to comprehend all of the calorie counting bull shit and whatever

A lot of people think Tinder isn't "reality." But it is reality. Stefan Molyneux says that Tinder is where women show their true selves. So if women don't show me attention on there, then they're not going to show it to me elsewhere.

I'd say that before bodybuilding get lean before. Calorie counting is easy as fuck with MyFitnessPal, you can scan the barcode that every food has and just type the portion size and it calculates the calories.

im 18 as well Yas Forumsrother and i feel you i got on tinder just to realize the same thing

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Faggot bitch

That requires too much effort.

nobody shows their true selves on Tinder. It's a terrible place to meet people. Plus women never show anyone attention on tinder. It's a miserable app. Don't use it.

I know Yas Forumsro. I can't accept that this gynocentric society is a reality... What a fucking nightmare. I'm hoping that Islam takes over soon.

That requires caring about something.
Read the books I listed above. At least try men are from Mars and women are from Venus, since it helps understand how differently men and women think. And the book of pook.

I'm not reading your fucking gay PUA books. There isn't a single fucking pretty girl on the planet who has to read "books on how to pick up men," or read "about male nature." Women just fucking exist and get attention. Why do I have to spend thousands of fucking hours in a gym JUST to MAYBE get a cunt's phone number? It's not fair. Life isn't fucking fair. I want out.

do something about your life then. our just kill your self. no one care.

get some perspective. Women have to worry about getting raped, something your ass will never be threatened by.

I'm honestly going to an hero. I just don't know how to stream it so you all can see it.

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You're not doing yourself any favors thinking that way at 18. Women your age are looking for certain things. This will change when everyone gets older and figures their shit out.

You have to spend time reading books because then other dudes chased girls you were being a whiny little bitch.
The problems you have are self inflicted but you are either too much of a thrift store intelectual to realize, too lazy to do anything or just a mix of both.
I'm not giving you more advice, but I hope some other user who has more clarity of mind can use my help.

Thinking pretty highly of yourself if you think anyone wants to see you kill yourself.