Question to my fellow incels: How do you guys cope with being an incel year after year...

If you want things to change you have to change yourself.

Develop a workout routine, work on your personality, forget women exist while you improve yourself.

There’s no other way. Those that are “chads” are those who are forced into things that improve themselves, actually find they enjoy those things, or are retarded and just do them without realizing the benefits.

Not so much for you, but addressing the “blackpill” (a cuck name if their ever was one guys) there are things you can. Chiropractor/work on your posture, mew (forcibly push you jaw forward by pushing your tongue against it throughout the day). Yeah genetics play some part, but they can be overcome through will. A Gymlet still looks better then an obese Manlet. It’s all about improving yourself in your lane. And your bone structure/muscle structure will subtly change to support your body.

Don’t look at your success with woman to be your source of confidence, look towards your actions. “Yeah bitch I know you want this dick, I’ve been benching for 3 years. Why wouldn’t you?” The confidence comes in with the fact you have improved yourself. The success with woman is a byproduct. Also a positive female relationship that doesn’t result in sex will be beneficial to you. Take steps to be friends with women, but don’t simp, don’t let her walk over you, and stand up for yourself. If you don’t let her think you want sex from her she has no power over you.

Idle time is wasted time. Also OP you’re not a genetic freak so the black pill doesn’t apply to you. Literally you just need to apply yourself for a decent amount of time to this strategy. Results aren’t quick, they come after success in applying yourself. But when they come, they come like a positive reinforcing loop, pushing you along the way.

Last piece of advice, just don’t accidentally take the Yas Forumspill and permanently forget women don’t exist.

Kek.
You are a voluntary celibate then.
You don't need money or muscles, but you do need to go after them.

Oh there it is, the "just hit the gym bruhhhh" meme. Fuck off dude. Every one knows that gymcels are a thing. When you're a short male like myself with an ugly face, simply having muscles isn't going to change anything. Nor would I waste my time getting extremely fit. I'm perfectly healthy as it is do cardio and have a proper Pescatarian diet. I take care of myself. But anything beyond that is retarded and isn't worth it. I'm not changing my entire daily routine around just to potentially get vagina from a shallow cunt who only sees men for either their money or their appearance.

>sees no value in women
>sees no value in pursuing them
>calls himself an incel
>is a volcel

Oh I see the value in pursuing women. But if to even begin the process of pursuing them constitutes me having to spend thousands of hours in the gym, or becoming rich, then it isn't fucking worth it. Also, you may just be naive to the horrible situation that normal and ugly men face in our society. I would recommend looking up YouTube channels like Face & LMS to see how totally fucked normal-looking and ugly men are.
youtube.com/watch?v=bprpXiT11kU

are you looking for a specific answer or something?
here's a general tip, no matter what it is you have to do, you need to actually work for it.
i'm sure you know, but you won't find any girl if you're just aimlessly wandering through life, being complacent with everything but your sex life.

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Ah.

So it’s your mindset then. You are currently deserving of your bitterness and loneliness.

You want a hot piece of ass, a woman who isn’t shallow, and one willing to be by your side yet won’t do anything “more” to make yourself better?

I mentioned the gym, because attraction gets you in the door, there’s no other way, but I was really wanting you to focus on your personality, because that’s what seals the deal.

“Basic” personalities get away with stuff because they are in fact, simple. You don’t have to dull yourself, but you will have to engage in some tedium in order to get to high level conversations, you can’t speak in them all the time. It’s exhausting.

And yes, life isn’t fair. Welcome to every adult’s first real world realization, you’re a bit behind the pack but you’ll catch up. Woman are born with what men want, but men have to work for what women want. Originally, in order to survive, your live style would’ve demanded that you get what woman want as a byproduct, but welcome to post-modern society. Also, you want the femoid’s pussy but you don’t want the femoid? Well then you need to improve yourself to attract more then worthless bitches.

You are currently bellow their radar, and deservedly so. I mean just sit back for a second and analyze yourself. “Cardio should be enough”, oh so you get to decide their preferences? Why can’t they do the same? “I’m perfectly healthy” that may be but you attracting women isn’t based off health it’s based off your charisma, character, and looks.

Which you decidedly have none of, the opposite of all of them you have in spades, but yet you wine that nothing can be done and that “life isn’t fair.” Well then maybe it’s time you do something about that.

I’ll give you the same piece of original advice. If you want things to change you have to change yourself, and that isn’t limited to your muscles.

I am not rich and literally have never spent one day in the gym.
You just need to learn how how to talk to them, which is to just get them talking about themselves.
This is probably just bait.

We’ll you’re white there’s latinas n asians

"You are currently deserving of your bitterness and loneliness."

Why? Because I'm a normal human being who wants pussy but happened to be born short and ugly?

"Cardio should be enough”, oh so you get to decide their preferences?"

No. That's not what I mean't. I go to the gym for the same reason I've been going since I was 14: I go to be healthy. I am not doing it because of women.

"And yes, life isn’t fair. Welcome to every adult’s first real world realization, you’re a bit behind the pack but you’ll catch up. Woman are born with what men want, but men have to work for what women want. Originally, in order to survive, your live style would’ve demanded that you get what woman want as a byproduct, but welcome to post-modern society. Also, you want the femoid’s pussy but you don’t want the femoid? Well then you need to improve yourself to attract more then worthless bitches."

This is all "toughen up" tradcuck drivel. I don't want your advice, tradfag. My original post was me asking advice from OTHER incels on how to cope. I'm not asking for a "way out." There isn't a way out. But I see these guys posting all the time, so obviously they've managed to accept their situation somehow. That's what I'm looking for.

Also, it doesn’t require “putting thousands of hours in the gym” cardio isn’t enough, running is the worst form of cardio burn, and lifting is good for your long term health anyway. You only care about yourself? Then fine be selfish about it, improve yourself for yourself, and your own health. Just 5 hours in the gym a week will infinitely improve your chances and your life if you only just let it.

Getting ripped doesn't matter when you're 5'7" and have an ugly face. What the fuck do you not get about this? Look up the "gymcel" meme and you'll understand.

Another thing, I have seen some ugly chubby fat dudes do amazing with women because of their personalities. No they aren't rich or even middle class either.
Another user said it, your personality is what is holding you back.

fucking /thread
based chadnon

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You're a liar. I've never seen fat and/or ugly guys with decent women. And it's not just my personality. You just don't understand modernity and the incel phenomenon.

That won't even be enough with that level of self-esteem.

>We’ll you’re white there’s latinas n asians

First of all, that meme about "white men being able to get non-white women easier" isn't even true. Secondly, I'm not into women who aren't white. I consider them inferior. I am only interested in women of European decent like myself.

There's no way you've finished high school. GTFO kid

I’m not saying “getting ripped.” I’m saying lift. If you actually have lifted weights you’d know there is a difference. I know what a gymcel is, and news flash, in order to get “ripped” requires at least 3 years of rhythmic lifting, extreme cardio intense workouts (that aren’t running), and thousands of calories. And we’re talking for a normalish person who doesn’t have a trainer or dietician on speedial.

I’m saying fucking be able to lift 150 lbs at the very least. Play to the perception that men are strong, own it, even if you’re 1000% times worse then Arnold Swaraznigger (can’t remember how to spell his name). That will help you, in both terms of health, and in terms of your abysmal chances with women.

Also so your fucking 5’7” At least you aren’t 5’4”, take your victories where you can get them.

You’re a defeatist, plain and simple, so become the ultimate defeatist and defeat your shitty attitude.

Yeah, cuz they're submissive enough to not laugh at that joke between your legs.

Yes. I do have a small penis too.

Yep, Until I joined the army in 2004, I never worked out. I still pulled poon by asking as many women out as I could. Even being rejected 80% of the time netted me 2 out of 10. It also taught me how to accept rejection, how to deflect the bullshit cunts who were actually after money and muscle instead of actually wanting dick.

Protip OP: Women like and want sex as much as men, especially ones under 35 or so. If all you're wanting is to get your dick wet, all you have to do is find the needy ones. If you're wanting more than that, but still a lower amount of commitment, women with daddy issues exist. If you're looking for your "soul mate" and you have an incel attitude, you need to fix your issues first, find out what you want in life, achieve that, and then start looking.

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seriously, quit self loathing for like 5 minutes. you're so delusional you actually believe people can't fix their involuntary celibacy.

>If all you're wanting is to get your dick wet, all you have to do is find the needy ones.

I've tried. Like I said previously, I've literally swiped Right on tens of thousands of girls. None have responded besides bots, fat niggers and ugly trannies.

Women are a lagging indicator of success--a byproduct of the process of refining oneself.
They are complementary to life, not what one should strive towards.

Make improving yourself your goal.
Learn to love yourself and others will follow suit.
Become the best possible "you".

Good luck to whoever reads this, you're a mfing King

>tinder
thats the problem. stop using tinder as a source of validation. If you know you aren’t attractive then don’t go there, women/men are picky as fuck. Focus on yourself and just keep pushing user

you're fucking 19 years old, quit acting like your sex life was already predetermined by some higher power. time to grow up, retard.

>Focus on yourself and just keep pushing user

That's the dumbest advice I've ever received... Just keep pushing? So I should just continue working my wagecuck job, continue getting ignored by femoids and continue playing video games 24/7 when I'm not working? Nah. Something's wrong here, and "keep pushing" isn't the solution.

OMFG David!?! i didn't know you lurked here... wow sup man how's it going!?

Tinder is a completely different landscape from real life.
For example, I've never had a Tinder date out of all of my attempts at Tinder, but meeting women in real life gives me a pretty good shot at getting lucky.

On Tinder, you are judged solely on your looks, and in an incredibly competitive market.
However, when you actually talk to a girl, you are able to show off the parts of yourself that aren't so easily communicated through Tinder.
Confidence, game, social status, interests, and more are all positives for us men, but the best way to relay those sides of us to women are to interact with them in person.

Find friends first, get introduction to dates. Girls needs someone they trust to vouch for you.

Don't have friends? Figure out what you are doing wrong.

You're fucking retarded, first off stop being such a depressed bitch, why would you even acknowledge that incel is a thing,
Secondly psychotically manipulating whores don't give a fuck about you, you need to take control of your life and stop depending on a fantasy--working out, hobbies, education, diet, competition, etc.
Thirdly you should find someone, or someone will come to you, with similar interests- a girl your size, similar backgrounds, or whatever, or even learn how to wear a dress and suck dick, there's plenty of good trap threads,
And ultimately start doing drugs like weed that will free you.
If you are really desperate just hire an escort

Sup. Yeah I kind of got sick of the incel and ugly subs on Reddit. I like Yas Forums because the anons are brutally honest. Which is something that just doesn't exist on Reddit.

If you're not willing to fuck a fat black woman, and you're still blaming women for your lack of pussy, it is time to kill yourself.

Yourself.

That's it. Not a mass shooting. Just you. Don't be a pussy and kill others.

Yeah. What’s wrong is you just posted an entirely unhealthy lifestyle that you are seemingly content with, yet aren’t at the same time.

You seem incapable of criticizing your own lifestyle and feel like it’s the women’s fault. They aren’t perfect, surely not, a lot are retarded too, but they’re justified in not picking you with your toxic defeatist attitude.

Newsflash, your choices have consequences. Incels who seemingly “cope” either actually get to a lower state of self-defeatism, or they realize they can do at least something to fix their situation. No one cares for a self-victim, unless they have tits, but then again they don’t actual care about her victim status, they’re trying to use it as a tool to get in her pants. Again, life isn’t fair.

Quit tunnel visioning on just women. Take this as a harsh hint that it might be more than your looks.
If you completely lack self-confidence and self-respect, no one will even look toward you for platonic relationships, let alone sexual ones.
The issue isn't solely because of society, or your looks, it also has to do with your personality, principles, general outlook on life.

If you're doing nothing but playing games on your time off, that's your fault. Is there nothing else you'd rather do with your free time? Hiking? Time on the river or streams? Running Shit man. You can't pull pussy if all you do is work and play video games. Nigger, I'm 40, and I learned a long time ago that while vidya is fun, it doesn't get my dick wet.

>That's it. Not a mass shooting. Just you. Don't be a pussy and kill others.

As much as I hate women and Chads, I'd never kill other people. No one else is responsible for the shitty hand that I had been given at birth. Only the universe is, I guess. So yeah I will eventually probably just neck it.

Wow what a coincidence, I never thought I'd actually stumble onto somebody I actually know. btw you shouldn't be posting pics of yourself here man. If ya want to talk let me know and we'll smoke a j and catch up dude.
What happened to your gf ? she was fucking hot man

This is a bait thread. OP is retarded. Ignore and move on.

I don't know who the fuck you are. I thought you recognized me from Reddit... Quit LARPing.

If you neck it, you’re still a gigantic pussy who refuses to confront yourself and correct your mishandled behaviors, attitude, and thoughts.

Put some fucking work into yourself for once, god fucking Jesus. Quit your job and go homeless if you have to, whatever it takes.

I can't believe this bait is working

19 is not an incel, wait until you're almost 30 to determine that. Improve yourself to not be one, go for walks and shit and don't become a simp incel.

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Even if it is a bait thread, it makes me feel better knowing I can confront this rather then just being “Yeah man, women suck.”

Also, Harrison Hinkle, I know this is you, that’s why I’m so adamant. Work on your game projects.

It's 100% not bait. This really is how shitty my fucking life is lol. I'm super depressed and hate myself.

no role playing here mate, i recognize your face DAVID, i could post your phone number if ya want

Stomp a tranny to death and then shoot up a synagogue

OP can't get a woman, because she is a woman.
You need to start HRT asap.

This guys got it.

Incels as a whole have more than just issues with their looks.
It's their entire personality and outlook on life that makes up the other half of their issues.
Incels are basically too busy self loathing, or to complacent to realize that any chance at getting better will have to involve some sort of critical thinking about yourself as a whole.
You get nothing in life for free, especially intimate relationships.

or fb

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Well said. All Tinder users should hear this.

Please don't... Just leave me the fuck alone and stop stalking me. Also if you're one of those faggots on Kiwifarms who's posting all my information, I hope you get raped to death by a pack of niggers.

Terrible bait/larp.
Reading your posts prove this shit can't be real. It's like a parody of how an incel thinks.

are you still doing landscaping?

you think therefore you are. change your thoughts and change your life kid.

It's not bait. It's real. I'm extremely depressed and post on here a lot just to shoot the shit with people about my situation.