Ironically, if we'd nominated and elected Bernie in 2016, and adopted his policies...

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Keep believing that shit, Europe is doing just great against this virus and there is no way China is lying about their numbers.

>if we became isolationists and didn't allow any people to constantly be crossing borders

Look at how S. Korea has minimized deaths and disease from CORONA.

cause MAGA is terrorist organisation

No western country would put up with the government intrusion necessary for any of the asian strategies to work.

Europe is doing A LOT better than the US. Highest unemployment ever? Only in Trumps paradise.

Look at Italy, a country with free health care, the death rate from COVID-19 is 9 times that of USA.

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Because Italy has a way higher rate of old people than other countries, and because they were hit first. In a few weeks the US will be worse. You're still way before the peak, in a short time your ICs will be overrun and people will start dying by the hundreds.

Unironically, if we nuked China, we would have prevented this and a million other disasters

They have been saying in a few weeks for a month now. It's time to go back to work.

You are fucking shitting me, almost all of the EU countries have higher proportional caseloads and are giving out NEETbux because they are under lockdown

funny of you to think that the establishment dems would let someone like Bernard ever be president or not block his policies… just give up, the US are fucked in any case, it doesnt even matter who you vote for on the blue side, the DNC will make sure of that, lets all just sit back and enjoy watching brainmelt Biden utterly lose to Trump and dont forget to thank the dems for it, 4 more years of memes…

Enjoy that bubble you morons call an economy crumbling lads. You'll see. No workers rights, no accessible healthcare for half your population, incompetent leadership, lobbyists and corporations ruling your country.

Sucks to be an american, and clinging to a once great past. But muh guns and muh freedom (unless you get sick or fired).

And better than you.

To be honest, I wouldn't mind seeing us fall to our knees, pull out of NATO and the UN and let Russia curb stomp Europe and China run wild over the Pacific

Capitalism which REQUIRES constant streams of commodities throughout the world in global production networks has resulted in this.

Immigration is really not the cause of this. We need more fundamental systemic changes to the economy.

>if we'd nominated and elected Bernie in 2016, and adopted his policies
We'd all be dead from starvation.

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Everything Bernie has been saying for years is literally the most common sense shit, but conservatards and neoliberal boomers will never see reason because WHAT ABOUT VUZUZVELA AND HOW UARE U GONNA PYAY FOR IT

Stop being bootlickers. The powers that be do not deserve your loyalty. Stop worshipping the capitalist economy. Stop worshipping abstract empty concepts like the nation state. Stop being cucks.

>Stop being bootlickers
>Desperately want a socialist/communist government.
You seriously can't be this stupid?

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Yeah, I think about stuff like this a lot. Imagine if we had Gore instead of Bush jr.

You are beyond fucking retarded.

Except the economy isn't going up. It is barely maintaining after dropping 2000+ points.

I literally want to abolish the state. But yeah until that happens I'm totally okay with the state taking power away from corporations that are completely unaccountable, dictatorial and totalitarian. I believe in a little thing called freedom. Private property and freedom cannot co-exist.

no u

True. Any politician singing the praises of open borders from now on will run the risk of being hung from a lamp post.

Ah, I see youre a complete retard

Holy shit what a great fucking argument you totally convinced me

Not him, but fair enough. How do you feel about a person's right to own his own land?

What would Bernie have done that would fight this? The overwhelming of the medical system by a new disease that there is no medicine, vaccine or cure for isn't going to be fixed by healthcare for all. Maybe it would help with getting people tested and tracking the epidemic.

Unironically, no it wouldnt have.

This is painfully accurate. Where should I flee to?

>I believe in a little thing called freedom
>Wanted Bernie to win
There's my answer, you are as stupid as I thought.

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Single payer healthcare is a joke. No one wants that except your overlords.
Private insurance will always be better. Period.

No shit, most shit is shut down. You can not really be this stupid.

That's not ironic burger, it's unfortunate

I have bad news kid. The federal apparatus has been corrupt for since 1913. Surrendering more autonomy isnt the answer.

Ownership of land will always depend on state violence to defend it. Therefore you don't really own it, it's just a privilege given to you by the state. I don't really think it makes sense to say that you own a piece of the planet that we all live on like that.

Fundamentally I think you should be entitled to the fruits of your own labor. This does not happen under capitalism. Instead the majority of the value produced by your labor goes to the "owner" while you are given a measly subsistence wage. These power relations are totally artificial and needs state violence to sustain themselves.

If he says Canada he is retarded.

i don't think you understand the definition of a third world country

>barely maintaining
ok zoomer

well said user. I've been hearing this shit for 20+ years. That's all they can say. HURR DURR HOW DO YOU PAY FOR THINGS I AM STUPID BUT ONLY WHEN IT BENEFITS MY SHITTY ARGUMENT

Except the stock market dropped before the shutdown.

I’m in CA and I guarantee the next 2 weeks we’re going to see a huge spike in deaths and diagnosis. Diagnosis isn’t a big deal tbh, but the “lockdown” is gonna be extended maybe another month. Not to say you or I will be affected, but this will get worse before it gets better

this is you

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Oh look, he's trying to put together competent thought, how cute.
It must be hard with limited education.
Poor burgerfats!

go visit Alabama

This, they just gave business $1t freebie.

Ummmm NZ...
Damn you cunts are stupid

I sincerely think you have a misunderstanding about policy positions of trump and sanders based on your post.

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> I don't really think it makes sense to say that you own a piece of the planet that we all live on like that.
That is one of my biggest hang ups with socialism/communism. You can never truly own anything as in it can never actually belong to you.

Try millions user, really fucking sad.
I'm feeling bad for the burgers

go find an official source that says it's a third world country. I'll wait. your opinion is not a source you fucking retard

>Look, I'm 14 and just learned how to be condescending to avoid the discussion.

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I'd prefer to be virtually anywhere else right now, maybe not Africa...?

They have more hospital beds per capita than we do, and hit their crisis before international med equipment shortages. I guarantee that we are going to have a worse time than they had.

California is full of fags and illegals, I don't think anyone cares about the death toll there, they may as well be part of Mexico.

Enjoy watching your parents die user

>You can never truly own anything as in it can never actually belong to you.
If you really believe this you're making the error of thinking that any form of socialism is full-blown idealistic straight-from-marx's-mouth soviet-style communism. The US and pretty much every country that isn't a complete disaster already implement trillions of dollars of social policies on a yearly basis and you're acting like adding healthcare to the list is tantamount to tearing up the Constitution and replacing it with Das Kapital.

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But it never actually belongs to you as it is. Ownership is a social construct that depends on the state. We should all be entitled to make use of nature. To invest our labor into it and produce the things we need to survive. This is what it was like for tens of thousands of years. It doesn't make sense that the planet is privately owned.

Fuck off commie

That’s irrelevant to my point, but my statement still stands. It’s going to get worse in the whole country before it gets better. I usually tell faggots like yourself to go outside, but in this case stay inside.

I'm an American, and I don't. I work with too many fatasses and have watched grown men play candy crush for the entirety of their lunch breaks. Pronouns, Marvel movies, and college football won't be so important in the face of extinction.

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that's the problem with millennials and zoomers. they treat their assumptions like facts.

but his healthcare would of cost 1 TRILLION, oh wait our current socialist president just gave free handouts to people and business that cost over 2.2 TRILLION. Republicans are THE biggest cucks out there. Congrats you spend 20K in taxes for your 1.2K check, retards.

Fuck off boomer

Oh look another seppo

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USA economy may be 1st world, but the society is 3rd world.

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>but the society is 3rd world.

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that's cute, cherry picking individual places to fit your narrative, you have to be over 18 to post here you know

No. Universal health care would not have solved this. It doesn't matter who gets stuck with the bill when hospitals are over their capacity yet more people keep getting sick.

I'm not a burger, most of them are good people. Maybe a little delusional, but good people none the less.
Hopefully something good comes from all the deaths?

>Giant liberal city has homeless problem
Cities in red states don't have these issues.

No, man. I'm in support of universal healthcare. I think the tax return should be abolished and the funds applied towards it.
Let's say my family has lived and kept up (pruning, plowing, building structures, etc) for generations. I think it's only fair that I should be able to sell it privately to someone else when I/my descendants decide to leave.

Nice bait m8. Care to name someone who would have handled this better and what they would have done differently?

Only when the first potus says it out loud things will get better in the usa:
We are not number one anymore, third world infrastructure in many places, bad education system, no working health care like the rest of world, no real social security system like others, living standard below Europe, Asia and Russia and the Middle East, systemic gun violence, racial tensions, outdated undemocratic voting system etc

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