Is abortion murder?

Is abortion murder?

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i'd fuck that tiger in the pusseeehh

Yes

that is not the question

this one is:
>is murder abortion?

>is murder abortion?
post-natal abortion, yes

the only valid response to this question.

Yes, and so is using antibiotics.

by definition no, but this is a bot post for sure

And masturbation, don't forget that! Every sperm is sacred and if you're pro life but still masturbate or ejaculate anywhere but a vagina you are a murderer by your own ridiculous standards.

Also if pro life cared about actual life they would stop fighting all the programs that improve life for poor children and make it easier for people to support the children you want to force to be born.

But they don't, they just want to create problems and hurt people because the magic sky man in their ancient book says so. Or maybe they know they're evil and just use mythology as an excuse

it is not a bot post, I wrote it
It isn't clear to me how removing a embryo or fetus or kill a baby after it is born, is not murder.
I believe that people who do that are seriously not capable of grasping what they are saying and doing.
Im not prolife or christian nor do I believe in god. All there is to it is me realizing how fucked up an abortion truly is.

Yes, it is killing a human fetus. You're still killing a human, just at one of it's stages of development.

Is murder late term abortion?

>Every sperm is sacred and if you're pro life

strawman

Because murder is a legal term, and by definition abortion is not murder. Thank you for coming to my TED talk, be less retarded next time.

Murder is the forceful removal of an existing being from life. You are the retard if you think in legal terms sorry

Wrong, that's killing. Murder is a legal term. Again, be less retarded.

>Better die a brave one

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As far as I know the word murder is being use outside of courthouses as a noun for the act of killing someone. Only because lawyer use it, doesn't mean it is purely a legal term, since everybody can use it.

On the other hand, since some countries do not allow the killing of an embryo, fetus or infant and I didn't specify what country I was referring to, it is in those countries murder.

No

Does it matter?

I second this. It was a fine response indeed.

abortion is euthanasia for would-be white trash babies in the Midwest/south. sparing them a life of retardation and poverty is a Godly thing.

stop. being. a retard.

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Do you really want to live in a world where females just decide to abort "a clump of cells" or even worse a fetus or even worse an infant, just because they want to stay competetive, be successful or just not deal with having children?
Do you really want to enable women to start a genocide comparable to the holocaust? Just because feminism is in and "it is their body and they can do whatever they want with it even if it means to kill an innocent being"?
Can you really not see the cruelty and objectification of life that brings that with it?

There are over 850,000 abortions per year in the US. 850,000 unwanted children, many with inherent special care needs (crack babies, etc.) that would require expensive treatments if carried full term. If abortions were banned who takes care of these babies? I know illegal abortions would still be performed, but we'd still have a staggering amount of unwanted newborns to deal with. Where would they end up?

Who cares?

what if i don't agree with the laws and perceive an unlawful killing of an human being? then it is quite understandable reason to call it a murder, also that whole conversation is nitpicking, since you understand what I mean

Your personal opinions and feelings don't affect the laws. Sorry about your feelings snowflake; a fetus ain't a person legally.

Ok you dramatic nigger, I’m going to be short and sweet with you. Yes, I hate feminists and irresponsible women. I do not believe they should qualify for something like abortion. Those are consequences they should have to live with. Second, I believe only very early abortions should be allowed. No infantile death. Thirdly, I’m not sure if I even believe the holocaust occurred. But if it did, six million certainly did not die and the jews had it coming anyway. I applaud you for trying to appeal to my better nature but truthfully, you’re over-reacting. If it’s not a conscious being yet, so it doesn’t carry the same weight as human life. And to conclude, it doesn’t really matter anyway. Nothing we’ve ever done or will ever do will mean anything. We live, then we die. And sometimes, life isn’t fair. But that’s just how things are. It’s a simple as that.

no

>Second, I believe only very early abortions should be allowed


OK, put a timeline that is non negotiable

is masturbation murder

No, because fetuses aren't people.

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>but really I just want women to be punished for having sex without my permission

Seriously, Who cares?

Just Do It. If you don't know hot to fuck correctly, you should end your family line.

>tadpoles aren't frogs

Yes. I'm against it for my children, but I'm so glad planned parenthoods are on every corner in poor neighborhoods.

Yep.

Fetuses have unique genetic makeup. If they aren't individual humans, what are they?

Yes. Most of us are garbage. Most of us will be garbage. STOP LITTERING!

This picture illustrates how brainwashed you are..
>lrn2genetics

So? We go to war everyday. Soldier's get picked to die.

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I dont know what you're saying..
Soldiers aren't human either?

Not in battle. Not my rules.

Except not, because plenty of people have given rational arguments as to how it's not so far retard

Most commong argument...they are just "a clump of cells", but truthfully we are nothing else as well. There is as much proof of a soul in a fetus as there is in an adult human being. Because if you start equating soul with cognitive power you can argue that retards, children, infants, people in comas have none, which most people who agree with aborting do not agree with.

You all think our government think You are human?
We are to be pacified. Our freedoms are against abuse. Because we keep the spice flowing for those at the top.

The "clump of cells" argument is to differentiate from a thinking, feeling person with ideas, hopes, dreams, relationships with other humans from a zygote that may potentially under the right conditions become that some day.

What's more cruel...Killing a baby, or Throwing it into a world that doesn't want them? Or, the lack of resources if all the kids would be alive today?

How do you come to the conclusion that by pro-life standards masturbation is?

The logic of an irresponsible retard.
Abortion should be a death sentence.

I don't see why not.

No. But murder is abortion. Just at a later stage.

They would become with great probability a human being, an existence and yet those woman who want to stay on top of everything and compete with world to prove their significance remove them from life and then claim that it was just some cells. Those same cells that would form themselves into a real human being. They trivialize it as if nothing ever happened and continue their success seeking life devaluing real human life.

Even if their life was objectively and subjectively bad it is their making that decides whether life is good or bad. There are countless example of human being who grew up in bad conditions and made their life a blessing.

I just really don't understand, or care what you breeders do.

Having a baby is fire. Yet, you rub your legs together...What do you think? Moron Str8's.

That's the way the bones roll. I can't control it.

Then you blame an invisable GOD to protest Birth CONTROL!!! HAHAHAHAH

The question is not if abortion is necessary, but if it's murder or not.

invisible...

Who cares? Why do we only have respect for life at the start?

well, we could take care of them, just cut the military budget