Is there even any proof he did anything? Or is it just women talking...

He won't survive Fishkill.

is this ultimately the correct answer or is there another side of this? I too think that one insufferable asshole slinging fat boy wiener around for roles in big films would become annoying fast by both of the male and female actors and producers and studios out there. I can't think one man was able to be like this without several people aiding his actions or mirroring them. Hit me with some truth

No other side too it

>one man
Are you genuinely retarded? The "casting couch" was an open secret in Hollywood, it's been part of the business forever. This is the status quo that's now become socially unacceptable so women who have profited from it in the past can profit from it again by feigning outrage. The same women who are now past their prime and can't garner attention anymore by being attractive. Is this so hard to understand?

This repugnant jew pig was charged with rape. The women on the stand made their claims with no physical evidence and no police reports. And somehow he was found guilty and sentenced to decades in prison. "Beyond a reasonable doubt" apparently means nothing.

"The standard that must be met by the prosecution's evidence in a criminal prosecution: that no other logical explanation can be derived from the facts except that the defendant committed the crime, thereby overcoming the presumption that a person is innocent until proven guilty.

If the jurors or judge have no doubt as to the defendant's guilt, or if their only doubts are unreasonable doubts, then the prosecutor has proven the defendant's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt and the defendant should be pronounced guilty."

yes, it is not an abusive boss that is the problem, it is victims that bring it up.

What pill are you taking?

>If you fuck me I'll get you this role
>OK
Regretting it 30 years later doesn't mean you didn't do it out of your own volition.

i really don't think he did anything wrong, most of the cases can be summed up like this
>be failed actor bitch
>suck cock for a role
>movie tanks, don't get famous
>get old and bitter, act like a victim and try to extort money from mr producer

>Or is it just women talking?
kys

>women wouldn't possibly use their attractiveness to their advantage to land a good job
>it certainly couldn't have been a consensual deal between 2 adults
You treat women as if they are children, you can't even fathom a woman who makes her own decisions apparently. Everything a woman does has to have something to do with a man wielding power over her in your world.

Coercion from a seat of power is not a choice.
Weinstein is on tape not giving the slightest shit that he's freaking a woman out and acknowledging he sexually assaulted her.
Nothing he did to women was purely transactional, it was his position as a rich boss that he abused, and that is the conclusion of the court.

Incel

sure dude. power dynamics aren't a thing, every action exists in a vacuum. I hope you never have children.

Here's what I don't get, and nobody can seem to answer me except with a "nuh uh fucc u."

Let's say I want to be an astronaut. Because I do, that would be sweet. Some fat guy tells me "I'll make you a famous astronaut, and also I will make you rich and your family rich for generations to come but you have to lick my butthole right now."

I have two options. I can say "No, my constitution will not allow me to do it this way," or I can say "yes place your asshole on my tongue."

If I say no, I may not get the instant satisfaction of being an astronaut. The fat butthole man is not the only route to becoming an astronaut, as convenient as he may be. I can train hard, perfect my craft, and do it without him.

If I say yes, it's because I have weighed my options, and the lingering tang of ass sweat on my tongue for an hour is worth several lifetimes of fame, fortune, and opportunity for me.

What I DON'T get to do is say yes NOW, completely reap the benefits for years and years and lead a glamorous life (because the anus guy did indeed make good on his side of the deal), and THEN, atop my throne given to me by him, say "you know, I shouldn't have had to do that, that fame and fortune was owed to me for no reason except that I wanted it. The guy who gave me this opportunity should be locked away for life."

To me, that sounds like cis white female entitlement.

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>Weinstein is on tape not giving the slightest shit that he's freaking a woman out and acknowledging he sexually assaulted her
No he didn't retard also if its sexually assault the dumb bitch should have left

Yeah he was a real piece of shit 23 years is awesome I figured he would get 3

>Nothing he did to women was purely transactional, it was his position as a rich boss that he abused
And they again did it because he had something they wanted, and they went for the deal because it was in their benefit.

Testimony is proof. You can go to jail just because someone says you did "x" if the jury believes that someone.

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I'm gay, so you can sleep soundly tonight knowing that I'll never have children.
>muh power dynamics
Nobody held a gun to their heads, they were offered a deal and they took it.
>but they really wanted the job
And they took the deal to get it, yes. They could have also been one of the many women who didn't take the deal. You want something, you pay for it. The currency in this case was sexual favors.

Anything other than a gun to the head is a choice.

Oh, i have to suck your dick for a banana and i don't want to? I guess i'm not getting a banana.

At least we went through with his word he could have just fucked them and said never mind. Was it even proved he was doing this?

>No he didn't retard
Yes, yes he did.
youtu.be/wEu7quzUsDk?t=62

Say you have a boss at a mcdonalds, and he demands you take his laundry to the dry cleaners.
That is not within the contract of your employment, but he has the ability to fire you, so what is the choice here?
Maybe HR, Maybe McD's corporate cans his ass.
Now let's draw that to Weinstein, where there is not HR, and he has the resources to deny you ever having a career in the industry again, and an army of lawyers which will drain you of every cent should you seek further action.
Like the Mob asking you for a favor, it's a silent but very real flex of power, not an ethical transaction.

>ugh you touched my breeeeeast
>yet here I am, again, in a room with you

Weinstein wasn't just guilty of casting-couch quid pro quo stuff.

He also did things like tell actresses that if they didn't out out, he'd do everything in his power to destroy their careers. Miro Sorvino, for example. And he made good on the threat. That is a crime: attempted rape by coercion. Maybe you autists think it shouldn't be. But it is.

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Women *are* children.
All morality, even feminist, is based upon women as the eternal victim. They have no agency and no true equality to men.
You know what they say,
Islam is Right about Women

>resources to deny you ever having a career in the industry

Yes. Studios competing against Weinstein are going to listen to Weinstein.

> that I'll never have children.
>what is adoption

>Nobody held a gun to their heads
Where in US law does it state that coercion only qualifies if it's a matter of life or death?

>The currency in this case was sexual favors.
From a predatory banking firm. We send those people to jail too.

>ITT
>Simps coping and neckbeards seething.

OP has jumped down the wrong rabbit hole and a bunch of numb nuts are following.

>he has the resources to deny you ever having a career in the industry again
Then go find a job in another industry, because in hollywood the casting couch is king and has been since fucking forever.
If they wanted to be actresses so bad then that was the price to pay for it. It's the career they wanted and that's what it took, and they did it.
And Weinstein wasn't the only producer around, not by a mile.

This. All the other victims showed up to his hotel room at like 2 in the morning. It's not rape if you set yourself up for it. Even if he did grab a titty that's not equal to 20 years in jail

>in a room with you
He was harassing her in a hallway. Holy shit kys

there no question if he did the action
one how ever could call what happened a deal between adults

>That is not within the contract of your employment, but he has the ability to fire you, so what is the choice here?
quit and go work for burger king?
you're a tard.

>d the casting couch is king and has been since fucking forever
Well we had slavery for most of human history, so I guess it's ok.

Play with fire, get burned.
The movie industry has always been regarded as a den of vipers. Everyone's heard "horror stories" about it at one point or another, if they still went in they only have themselves to blame.

>iTs NoT rApE iF...

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what do you care about a fat faggot, faggot?

Yes, nothing indicates a strong man of principles like someone who does nothing about an exploitative boss.

The quid pro quo shit he definitely did. To me the casting couch isn't that serious of a crime BUT he also made it so that if you said no you were going to have trouble getting work in Hollywood again. So that goes past quid pro quo and into extortion. It's coercive at that point, but you can't be handling that kind of money and fame without everything having some element of coercion to it. At a certain point money becomes a universal adapter for motive, and dangling a certain amount of money in front of someone is tantamount to putting a gun to their head, so by degrees the extortion angle was still serious but it was less of an escalation than it would be in other circumstances. He did that shit too though.

The sticking point for me is the forcible rape. If he did that there's no question he's got time coming, maybe the rest of his life. They're testifying that he did it. But in their minds is saying "I was forcibly raped" a white lie for "I was coerced"? Because it doesn't fit what I have pegged as his MO in my mind. I don't know that I could find him guilty on the forcible rapes, but the quid pro quo I could see him earning a few years for because he took it as far as he did by adding threats to bribes.

This is the same situation, don't like it? Well you can get your gasoline somewhere else.
What you can't do is agree to the deal, get the gasoline and then charge the guy with rape 30 years down the line. And it doesn't matter how much you wanted the gasoline.
Also, maybe don't go into an industry as a woman that is known for these practices if you're not okay with it. I don't get a job at McDonalds and then complain that I smell like oil after my shift ends. Sleazy executives are as much of an occupational hazard as a grease burn from the kitchen.
Don't like it? Change careers.

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>attempted rape by coercion
That's not a crime

No, but if I know that slavery as a system still exists in country X and I go to that country out of my own will, and get myself captured and turned into a slave, then I should rightfully be called an idiot.
That's what the movie industry is, and they wanted to participate in it.

this mirrors how i feel as well

tldr force rape bad
trading sex for gigs isnt that big of a deal

half of hollywood is exposed for being whores.
white knights gonna white knight

>The sticking point for me is the forcible rape
Yeah, it's a pisser, the old rape.

Fucking put your cutfag nubbin dick away SJ

right, because young people never have naive ideals of their career or assume everyone will treat them decently.

It's been "that way forever", then the culture doesn't tolerate this bullshit, and they way to make it no longer forever is to get pieces of shit like Weinstein in prison.

Shit I'd fuck him for a $20M movie deal. He should be charged with soliciting, not rape, and the women should be charged with prostitution.

He got sentenced to 23 years for being TOO FUCKING UGLY.

that is part of it for sure
using your body to get a job is not rape
how ever there is talk of a real forced rape

It's this. Hollywood works like this. Not only women, also men had to suck dick to get roles. It's a shitty job.

Modelling is the same, had a friend that went to NY and she told me exactly what you would expect.

Any chance you could stop quoting like an absolute faggot?