This is an educational thread. I've spent the last 10 or so years on a research project about ancient Rome...

There's contemporary evidence for the historical existence of Jesus that predates the Flavian dynasty. Josephus in particular discusses him, so then the evidential question becomes one about when Josephus wrote. It's an interesting theory but there's not enough evidence to go against the historiographical grain

Is the wolf jackass real?

Romulese and Rhomes were a couple of gay ass niggers.

Did all roads actually built in a day?

It's Romulus and Remis. They were princes who were abandoned by their mother and adopted by a wolf. When they grew up, Romulus killed his brother and founded Rome (hence the name)

Forgetting that Josephus was the son of emperor Vespasian Flavius?

There's absolutely no contemporary evidence for Jesus. He was created after the destruction of the temple in 70AD and Josephus was in charge of getting the Gospels authored.

Yes, overnight. They were found as stone roads but left as marble roads

ty, i should have known

How was the average legionnaire seen in society.
Were they all gay like the greeks
Were all legionnaires professional or was there forced conscription in times of war

I don't disagree. Jesus is horse shit. But there's evidence that there was some guy named Jesus of Nazareth who was important in the Jewish community for some reason

Is it true that the she-wolf didn't have enough tits to feed Romanius so he went and sucked a cock and then became a gypsy leader?

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No, there really isn't.

you sound almost as retarded as a conservative 'jew'

The Jews have been aware of the Flavian origins of Christianity for a very long time.

In the era of the Republic, all legionnaires were volunteers, and they had to be citizens. The idea was that only patriotic and self-interested men would be sufficiently motivated to fight. The Marian reforms turned military service into a version of the patron-client relationship. Later emperors expanded citizenship (mostly for tax reasons) to include almost everyone in the Empire. This was a massive cause of instability.
The sexual orientation of Roman soldiers is little understood. They were probably as gay as we are.
Otherwise, they were enormously respected by the rest of society. But the class system of Rome was more important than anything else

josephus in charge of the gospels is a wild invention

>sources are dubious

Ty. Some years ago some bitch on plebbit was doin a paper on PTSD in ancient times, Rome included. What can you tell me about that. Did legionnaires experience or write about PTSD

It's an interesting topic. I recommend "Josephus, Judaism, and Christianity" by Feldman and Hata

The Romans spoke Latin with an Italian accent?

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How do you feel, knowing you wasted your time on history when you could of been making advances in the cure for cancer or playing vidya?

Hm.Legionnary veterans are not discussed by many primary sources. We know they had political power and influence as a sort of united interest group. As such they were supposed to be given pensions and land once they retired. Often they were not.
But PTSD? It's such a modern concept, but also an intimately human form of suffering that has surely always existed. There are some primary sources that describe it (Ovid in particular comes to mind). But it's hard to parse the political propaganda needed to answer the above concerns from what is historically true.

the typological relationship between them and his wars of the jews proves it.

>Josephus was the son of emperor Vespasian Flavius?

No.

Sources are the Gospels and Wars of the jews. Also his Antiquities to a lesser extent.

Oh I play plenty of vidyas. If I wasn't a humanities person I'd do something more substantive. But I'm proud of my work

Can I get a big Mac ... Yeah why not, a meal is fine ... No that's all, nothing else.

He was adopted when Vespasian became emperor.

Why do you think he's known as Josephus Flavius and not Josephus ben Mathias?

Want to make that a combo?

>tfw no wolf titcow gf

Jesus definitely existed. But the Flavians used the words of the apologetics like Paul, to turn into a state run religion to turn people shamefilled and slave like, creating Christianity and removing it of any virtue. Alot of babble about love and miracles, while teaching people their core is evil and they will burn forever if they don't listen to them.

lol because he adopted the name of his employer, which was extremely common

>being this gullible

okay this is B after all

no credible source can even hint at a proven slightly semi significant correlation.

you just spread lies.

He was not adopted by Vespasian, he was granted citizenship as a reward for his switching sides and serving Rome during the Judean revolt. It was standard practice to take the name of your patron when a non-citizen became a citizen. This is nowhere even close to the same thing as adoption. Had he been adopted, he would have been in the line of succession with Titus and Domitian.

No, and Paul was also an invention of the Flavians.

Personally I agree. But professionally there's not enough evidence

No, he was actually adopted, and was treated like any of his other sons. Read his Wars of the Jews sometime.

Ty. What were the primary causes of legionnaire appearance change from what we often see in media to what is depicted in the late roman empire

Again, no, he was adopted.

do you consider gladiators to be more like wrestling in that they wore elaborate costumes and put on a show for the people, or was it a real contest between combatants...

inb4 I know close to nothing about Rome, but am curious, so don't shorten the explanation.
How hard was the work for most of the people? And how were the life standards in general?

Roman military tactics evolved over a long history. Hence uniforms and armor changed significantly from the period of the Republic (say, 200 BCE) to the end of the Empire (say, 400 CE). What you're asking is essentially like saying "why did American soldiers wear one sort of uniform in 1776, and a different uniform in 2020?" So if we're talking primary changes, it's just time and styles.
For some reason that's always puzzled me, popular media likes to show soldiers from the end of the Republic and the beginning of the Empire. Maybe that's because that time period has the most interesting stories. Or maybe because Hollywood knows that we will recognize that as 'Roman'.

In your opinion, what major takeaway can modern Western society learn from the collapse of the Roman empire?

gay is bad

It was real. Not everywhere and not at all times- graffiti from Pompeii tells us that gladiators had more agency than we normally think. And people have a natural tendency to not kill others. But combat was their life and livelihood. And their culture was a vicious one

Ty. Say Im the child of blacksmiths of some shit, Im a citizen but not noble or particularly rich or anything. I want to educate myself. What are my options and limits to what I can achieve

Dumb question but, how much Ancient Greece influenced Ancient Rome ?

Romans usually didn't work. Work was done by slaves. Was good to be Roman.

how do we make fucking animals socially acceptable again

of all the cool shit the romans did that one was definitely the best

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Was ancient Rome really as degenerate as they say? Like, was it OK to fuck kids and animals back then?

What actually is the wolf representing?
As in who actually fed them.

Funny that the empire fell shortly after gay marriage was made illegal. It did fine with it for almost 1000 years before that.

Join the military and don't die and you can do great.

Or just be good at making money and buying slaves and you could get retarded rich.

Life for an average Roman would have been quite terrible. I'll give an example that's more specific- Roman laundrymen were called 'fullers'. They had to clean, bleach, and dye their client's clothes. To do this they needed to collect urine, probably from public toilets, to make the necessary chemicals. Then they had to mash the chemicals together in a large vat using their feet and hands. This is a laborious and time consuming process. They are paid almost nothing for their work and it is done in their home. The streets aren't safe, the likelihood of dying from disease is extremely high, corrupt tax-collectors come by more than once a month, and the wealthy have fixed the political process such that they have no way of complaining to higher authorities or effectively voting for change

It's all happening again. Everything we've gone through in the last twenty or so years happened to the Romans. I'm not an oracle and I won't make assumptions. But the greed, apathy, and corruption that I see now is extremely familiar

ok to fuck slave kids. Animals too probably. I wouldn't call that degenerate though. I'm sure the goats would rather be fucked than killed and eaten.