My entire perception of reality has just been shattered by something a friend told me. It isn't even general advice, it's just that their interpretation of a series of events we both experienced was so different it caused me to have an epiphany.
It's like I've been living in this invisible prison my entire life, I've realized the way I interpret people's emotions and actions is so fucking autistic that almost my entire life has been a delusion.
It's like my anxiety and self-hatred had totally taken over and I was totally detached from reality.
I don't know if any of you can even understand what I'm typing right now, you probably think I'm some schizo, but the world is fascinating and so much more complex than I had thought it was.
I was called paranoid once and it's true. Anxiety is just delusional paranoia. The older you get the more of your life you can see as time wasted being prepared for nothing.
Elijah Robinson
See you tomorrow originigger
Michael Brown
op just ascended and left us without saying what happened.
Elijah Torres
Can someone make a diamond wojak
Grayson Richardson
don't worry OP, I get you. I've experienced much the same. It's really a horrifying yet exciting experience to have your worldviews so completely pulled from under you. It leaves you vulnerable, yet it also gives you this clarity you almost never have, and you're almost always better off having had the experience despite how terrible it might feel in the moment.
Nolan Russell
same happened to me op
Ian Hall
cool originali story bro
Brody Collins
Won't you tell us what this revelation was?
James Perez
I'm almost certain that I can't describe it to you. It would be like trying to describe a painting to a blind man, you can only describe it to them in terms of one of their other senses, so they can never truly understand what it is to see. To give them sight you'd have to cure their blindness, which cannot be done through words alone.
You reflexively don't touch a hot stove because your reflexes tell you you'd get burned. Now imagine you were conditioned to think that you'd get burned if you shook hands, wore a shirt, or ate anything that wasn't green. Everyone else around you would be fully aware of you being a total weirdo, but you wouldn't be able to understand why. That's not to say you're invincible, many of your instincts are still correct, but you have a ton of crazy habits that are killing you. The way I perceived reality was so totally fucked, I am really struggling to describe it to you but this is the best I can do and it isn't even good enough I don't think.
This may not apply to all of you, but I was trapped in this bizarre autistic model of reality I had constructed. I couldn't have intentionally escaped it if I had tried it. I don't think an explanation of it can help you escape either desu, I think you have to have an epiphany.
Josiah Evans
based. I totally get you and it's great to hear you were able to experience that. I hope you use this epiphany to really change things for the better. Remember that just because something feels right and like it's the reality, it doesn't mean it actually is. that's something I had to come to understand myself through experience. that awareness is so damn important.
Grayson Morgan
Make it yourself fag
Zachary Gomez
This wasn't very helpful user. I get these 'epihanys' all the time. >I'm gonna get shredded brah >I'm gonna eat a healthy diet brah >I'm gonna go speak to random strangers and make their day brah!!! It always comes back to depression and solitude no matter what epihanys and motivations you have.
John Martin
>My entire perception of reality has just been shattered by something a friend told me >I'm almost certain that I can't describe it to you >it would be like trying to describe a painting to a blind man I'll do it for you then. >I think world bad, friend think world good. My mind changed :O
At least tell us what he said, regardless of whether we'll understand it or not.
Camden Ward
I think I know where you're coming from, OP. I had a similar epiphany a few days ago. While searching for knowledge on the internet, something clicked inside of me one night, which changed how my mind operates day to day. It's as if the blinds were finally pulled up to let in the sunlight.
Jayden White
I had an epiphany 2 years ago but when it was over it put me in a worse place than I'd ever been. I understand the paint to a blind man / burning yourself metaphors but I feel so much more weak and crippled now than I ever have before. It's like I still had some life in me prior to my experience, even if it was pretty ignorant but, past that experience I'm more of a walking courpse than ever before. I'm so weak and useless that I should just go lay my neck across some railroad tracks
ye ye but can you guys say what the fuck your epiphany was instead of talking in metaphors? What did you realize?
Daniel Bell
I got gobsmacked by the hands of the universe
Jaxson Lopez
In other words, if you're like me: You have an emotional brain, most people think with emotions. You need to use it if you want to be in sync with others. You can't understand people because you've been traumatized and are too afraid to use this emotional brain. You don't even know how to if you wanted to, you'd confuse it with your logical brain. You have this model of traumas to avoid, basically. Additionally, all logical systems that stick people into boxes (like "Chad", "normie", etc.) are malleable. Every individual has their own frame with which they see the world, which has parts of it that are highly subjective and malleable, and many times wrong. This explanation still doesn't do it, desu, no explanation will do it for you unless you're already at.
Someone has to emotionally effect you in a certain way, it's not words alone, because words will just be caught by your frame and filtered through what you already know.
Neither of you understood what I was trying to convey. It's crazy, just a few days ago I'd have had nearly the same response. I wish I could explain things to you better.
It's incredible user!
I'm sorry to hear user.
David Robinson
Also I shouldn't have described it as logic vs emotoins. You aren't thinking logically, you're thinking logically within a certain frame. Godamn I sound like such a schizo right now.
Adrian Taylor
I had all the exact same realisations my first mushroom trip, I remember the exact moment my empathy clicked for the first time and I realised people are just people doing their best and I let go of years of hate and anger.
I'm old now and I see so many fucked people on this site it's just boring now, they are all the same. quickest way to improve your life is to either completely cut yourself of from this site or never post or let your emotions trigger you here again. It's funny thinking back to how retarded you look in your memories hurting yourself over and over lmao, thank god for mushrooms.
John Taylor
Go listen to Master of Puppets or some shit, idk. I don't feel like putting in the effort of typing up my experience for 2 hours only for nothing to come of it
I've come to believe you guys that egg-on asking "what happened bruh" already know damn well what happened
David James
>my empathy clicked It's funny how that phrase can't make it click for others, the word is totally meaningless unless you know how to truly feel it. A set of instructions can't make someone feel true empathy for others.
Jackson Ortiz
>I've come to believe you guys that egg-on asking "what happened bruh" already know damn well what happened pretty cynical, user. I'm asking because I'm interested in your situation and want to talk with you about it. it's alright if you don't want to talk about it, but don't assume my intentions.
Hunter Cooper
>Neither of you understood what I was trying to convey. It's crazy, just a few days ago I'd have had nearly the same response. I wish I could explain things to you better. So you think you're more enlightened than me because I wanted to know what he told you? Criiiinnnnnnnnngeeeee. Sounds like you have a stick up your ass
Carter Cook
>Go listen to Master of Puppets or some shit, idk. I don't feel like putting in the effort of typing up my experience for 2 hours only for nothing to come of it >wawa go listen to mainstream music you're obvious sheeple herheheheheh >I've come to believe you guys that egg-on asking "what happened bruh" already know damn well what happened >u know dooooood uu knooow
No bitch I don't know you could just summarize your fucking experience you fucking IQ let
Nathan Powell
I don't even know if you are experiencing the same thing I was.
Adam Rogers
yup it's a completely unique experience/sensation you can't describe it with words well at all. I was thinking of taste as an analogy, you have bitter and salty your whole life then you taste sweet like what the fuck is this I love this
Luis Roberts
>doooooood ur in a different paradigm broooooo u can't understand mmeeeee
Owen Ramirez
I've already typed up my experience 3 or 4 times on /x/, Yas Forums and /adv/ and nothing really came of it. Sorry for stroking your interest but I just don't feel like doing it again and only came here because I was interested in what OP had to say and maybe see if that could help me at all
Chase Brown
underage b&, can instantly tell by the little shit attitude lmao
my friend i believe the epiphany that OP had was worldbreaking for him, the framework in which he and the way he views the world has no been fundamentally changed. We often say that our reactions to outside stimuli are what controlls our lives, but few people actually realize this to the extent where they can depersonalize and disassociate a bit from their initial thoughts and reactions so they gain back ACTUAL controll of their lives.
Our perception that we have built up, the way we associate so firmly with our thoughts and opinions, the way we actually make ourselves believe that our thoughts and opinions are US, the way we so greatly identify with the ego, the very same ego that gets defensive once criticized nowadays seems so strange to me. I remember doing it too, getting offended to my core when somebody would call me arrogant or naive or whatever but now i actually try to analyse myself with outmost sincerity to see if i may be naive or arrogant.
To learn how to break this frame and these patterns we have made for ourselves is no easy task and i recommend doing shrooms or lsd for the quick path or hella meditation and zen buddhism for the slow drugfree path.
I mostly mentioned it because I wanted to see if OP could relate to it but he only said "sorry user". The whole experienced was riddled in metaphors and shit anyways and I only slept for like 3 or 4 hours during the whole week and memory just isn't there for a lot of it
Ryan Robinson
>hehehehehehehehe i'm so deep you probably don't understand me because ur underage LOL
