Repent from your sins anons, and turn to the Lord Jesus Christ.
Repent from your sins anons, and turn to the Lord Jesus Christ
I learned more from Plato than I did from the New Testament, which is a terrible thing, since Christianity is judaized platonism for the masses
>I learned more from Plato than I did from the New Testament, which is a terrible thing, since Christianity is judaized platonism for the masses
Christianity (which means to follow Christ) shares no ground with greek philosophers. Their view of life is flawed, and offer no salvation from eternal damnation.
i wish i could believe in this stuff man, but i just don't.
Based Christian user. I love you, my brother.
>Christianity (which means to follow Christ) shares no ground with greek philosophers.
Laughs in the concept of logos.
Well what are you having a hard time believing in?
>Christianity is Platonism for the masses
Somebody read the intro to Beyond Good and Evil...
The idea of magic man in the sky when were already an advanced society that knows about space
The jewish scribes who wrote the New Testament were hellenized. The Church Fathers granted neoplatonic attributes to the christian God. Paul and Augustine snuck henosis into the religion.
Don't bother with Nietzsche until you've actually read the Greeks
Let me guess, you also think that Satan is a red and is the warden of hell? Pop-culture has made you think that God somehow lives in the clouds. Jesus only mentioned that he would ride on clouds, but in no way that he said that his kingdom was on the clouds.
>The jewish scribes who wrote the New Testament were hellenized.
Jewish scribes wrote the new testament? who told you that?
>The Church Fathers granted neoplatonic attributes to the christian God. Paul and Augustine snuck henosis into the religion.
Ok so you're going by catholic pagan theology i see. If you read the leters of Paul he clearly warns against the foolishness of greek philosophy.
>Jewish scribes wrote the new testament? who told you that?
Read Martin Hengel. He's the go to scholarly source on this question. Christianity was the inadvertent product of conflict between Hellenizers and Judaizers (rabbinical orthodox jewry) during the period of the Second Temple. There's a clear Hellenic influence in the New Testament, it's more evident in the pauline epistle than the synoptic gospels though. The Hellenizers moved too quickly towards reform and provoked the Jews into a aggressive reaction. Obviously Jesus was important, but there was no baseline orthodox Christianity to begin with, it was an arena of competing "heresies". Paul completes the hellenistic process.
>Ok so you're going by catholic pagan theology i see. If you read the leters of Paul he clearly warns against the foolishness of greek philosophy.
He specifically rejects epicureans and stoics. Not platonism
Yes but how do you fit in belief in God with modern advancements in science
That's your problem user, you put your trust in the theologians more than the word of God. Bible scholars in particular are some of the biggest atheist i've seen. They edit the bible to fit their manmade doctrines, and turn away from the solid foundation of scripture.
Sola scriptura, huh? Don't tell me you're a proddie. I find the history of religion to be just as important in attaining a comprehensive understanding as the substance of doctrine itself.
Even in Genesis man thought that technology somehow refuted God; mankind invented brick and they somehow taught that they knew everything. When God confronted Noah, God showed him the universe and it's complexities, and showed him the biggest dinosaur he created. Think of science as man trying to study the mysteries of the universe God created.
I don't side with denominations user because that will force me to pick up their manmade doctrine that is not from God. If you're going to base your christianity on what theologians like to call "church history", just remember that even in the days of the Apostle Paul the church was dividing and falling away into false doctrines.
How do you account for the differences between the teachings of Jesus and Paul? Where do you stand on the question of mosaic law?
>How do you account for the differences between the teachings of Jesus and Paul?
Paul was an apostle of Jesus, and Paul taught the message of Jesus. I've yet to see how Paul contradicts Jesus, of course apart from verses taken out of context.
>Where do you stand on the question of mosaic law?
Jesus is the fulfillment of the law, because no man can fully obey it.
>Worship me sky daddy or me sky daddy beat you up! Unga bunga!
Jesus, for one thing, does not call the laws of Moses "carnal commandments" as Paul does. Not much of what is said by Paul in the epistles about how to achieve union with God can be traced back to the sayings of Jesus in the gospels. If you want to make that connection, you have to make some historical inferences that you seem unwilling to make. As you said, immediately following Jesus's death there were disputes over how to interpret him and follow the Word. The embrace of gentiles was pushed by Paul. He fought with James at the Council of Jerusalem. It is clear something extra-biblical is needed, hence the proliferation of denominations.
>Jesus, for one thing, does not call the laws of Moses "carnal commandments" as Paul does.
So Paul and Jesus didn't have different gospels.
>As you said, immediately following Jesus's death there were disputes over how to interpret him and follow the Word.
Yeah, amongst people who weren't Jesus' disciples. Peter, Paul and James tried to correct these errors, some churches received the rebuke, some churches went ahead and continued down the path of manmade theology.
>The embrace of gentiles was pushed by Paul
It was Peter who first received a dream from the Holy Spirit to preach to the gentiles.
>It is clear something extra-biblical is needed, hence the proliferation of denominations.
Extra-biblical writing is satanic, and goes against God's command not to add to the book, also apocrypha is a well for satanic doctrines, and bible doubt. I urge you to turn away from flawed manmaded teachings like those of origen, the alexandrians, and the pagan catholics. And instead base your theology on the concrete base of the Bible.
2 Timothy 3 16-17
>[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
>[17] That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
Thats literally what belief in God/Gods comes down to though. How people justify this shit in a modern, technologically and scientifically advanced society is beyond me.
Are you the same guy from earlier that rejects God on the basis of scientific advancement?
Listen man inventing bricks and exploring the wider universe are two different things
I repent from my sins but I get a sick pleasure of the idea of watching femanons burn in hell one day for all eternity as I laugh in heaven.
watching their skin and flesh melt off over and over and over again for all time gives me the biggest grin. that's your fate femanons for being whores.
that's where ciara and bianca are now.
>How people justify this shit in a modern, technologically and scientifically advanced society is beyond me.
"Old thing good, new thing bad."
You've clearly made your mind up way before me presenting my argument, which begs me to question why you wanted to believe in the first place. But i'll leave you to it then, placing manmade inventions and notions on a pedestal.
So many saints and deities.
Can't satisfy them all.
I try my best to follow the teachings of Jesus and I respect Christianity but I know I'm going to hell and I don't want to taint heaven with my presence
I think you have it in reverse
>I try my best to follow the teachings of Jesus and I respect Christianity but I know I'm going to hell and I don't want to taint heaven with my presence
You're saved by grace, through faith. If you have no faith, you'll never follow the teachings of Jesus. Pick yourself up and keep walking.
Right, because there totally aren't a lot of people who fantasise about the "good old days", even people who weren't alive in the "good old days". There totally aren't a bunch of people on Yas Forums who long for the days when calling black people niggers and beating your wife for burning dinner were socially acceptable.
I do not believe in organised religions. There might be a higher power but the religious texts are all silly.