How does it feel to have a real friend?
How does it feel to have a real friend?
>How does it feel to have a real friend?
I don't know.
Last time I did was fifteen years ago, he ended up having to move out of state because his step mother was physical abusive. We were friends for like five years and did everything together, including jack off together.
idk i have plump but its through discord, but i consider him a real friend
You feel good when they're doing well.
You feel bad when they're not.
Feels about the same as everything else in life. Sometimes it's fun sometimes not so much.
What is a real friend?
I just fucking told you.
I was told what a friend is, i wasn't told what a real one is, in fact i was told about the word, not what it means to you which is what i want to know.
Not him but a real one obvs cannot be a virtual one, online friendships are a meme. Yes, I'm being serious. It's too fickle, you both can lie forever and ghost each other with no consequences anytime.
You can lie and ghost people in real life too you know.
Friends are people I care about.
They're extremely scarce.
Not without minimal consequences, you can't just piss off people like that irl, unless they're total doormats, but I guess zoomers are like this.
I don't know I'm almost 30 now and I've made friends throughout my 20s with whom I have travelled overseas etc. and just completely cut all ties with them and moved to another city. I think people do it all the time too there's nothing odd about it.
No one's gonna risk losing money and doing jail time over someone cutting contact lmao
Personally I don't like it.
They're annoying and clingy and weird. They send you bad boomer memes and constantly ask you to go hang out with them. Then if you do go, they spend most of their time whining about not having enough sex while simultaneously playing weird social power/dominance mind games with you.
The only people I like speaking with are my brother, my ex and my e-gf.
That might be true but i wouldn't know, i didn't quite take real as literally irl more of a theoretical real, what happened to me irl it's either we slowly lose contact over time or just stop talking suddenly because we don't go to the same school or share anything anymore, in both of these i don't think neither me or them gave much of a shit about it, not very unlike some online people i've talked to but online was just 40x faster that everything happened, i guess the real friendship is the one that means more to you.
That's a satisfactory answer, still it makes me question if you caring about them is just a prerequisite so that you can call someone a friend.
If I care about you then you're my friend.
If I don't care about you then you're not my friend.
It's not just a prerequisite, it's the only.
I think we really, really, really idealize these stuff
Friendship is about effort to care for someone else, that's it.
its nothing special, you take them for granted a lot, but its because you got their back and vice versa, its like youre in this together
Could you be a friend of someone you don't interact with then? It sounds counterintuitive and i supposed caring and friendship are one and the same so the different levels of friendship would be someone you care for more or less? What about trust or how much they know you, or how much you're willing to tell them, how much you're comfortable with them, how much and what you talk about with them, is that something different altogether?
They're annoying and clingy and weird. They send you bad boomer memes and constantly ask you to go hang out with them. Then if you do go, they spend most of their time whining about not having enough sex while simultaneously playing weird social power/dominance mind games with you.
Can relate, one of my brother best friend fucking acts like this and it's anoying. Those people likes to jump from social circles to another circles because of their fucking narccism.
A good friend can be a relative like your experience.
"someone that you don't interact with" is rather vague language even though it's so common a thing to say. I'm currently not interacting with anyone that yesterday I considered a friend, they're still friends. I could, for 20 years not interact with any of them, not think about any of them, and if, after that 20 years I met them again, and cared, then they'd have been my friend for that 20 years. You could argue that within those 20 years is a Schrodinger's friend situation, where, given a random point within the 20 years, you could have thought of one of them and not cared, and therefore they weren't your friend for the 20 years, but I don't think that holds ground seeing as how the actions that you would take are deterministic.
I don't consider there to be levels of friendship. Posit that care is a spectrum and that there is a threshold of care required to consider someone a friend--I would argue that you don't "actually care" about anything below that threshold, and that nothing above that threshold, if anything is above, is required to care.
I don't particularly trust anyone, but, if I ask myself with the traditional meaning of trust (i.e., Trust at all, in other words, don't distrust), "Can I care about someone I don't trust" the answer is no, therefore trust is a prerequisite to care (Or rather, a lack of distrust is a prerequisite), and since care is a prerequisite to friendship, trust is a prerequisite to friendship.
The exact same can be said for comfort.
As for the amount that I talk to someone, well, if the stars align and I would consider them my friend, then I'd be much more likely to talk to them. But no, as above, there's no requirement.
Like interacting with them, i'm not sure what's vague but i was thinking about just looking at them passively at least. So if someone is completely out of your life you can still care for them, i think that for months that's admissible but years seems like a stretch, if it's that long and you're not even thinking about them doesn't seem like caring to me, i don't want to speak for you but if they come back i don't think you would care for them after that long, people are always changing, getting new friends, etc, etc, if you can still care for them once they come back i think it's more that you made friends again not that you kept being friends, you kind of care for the memory not them, still i'm not sure, i guess that's getting into it what is caring, how do you care, what makes you do, what makes you stop doing it, i'm not even sure what deterministic means in that context.
There's adjectives that you can add like close friend, good friend, annoying friend, best friend, etc, these would be on different points of the relantionship spectrum wouldn't they? That's what i mean by level, maybe it's just that the point you think of someone as a friend and the point that you care for a person overlap, and even caring is another spectrum maybe closely related to this one for you, anything above the baseline friends would require you to care, them maybe not so much, them caring would affect at point they stand maybe but that's unrelated.
I'm not sure what you mean about trust, you say you don't trust people but you say for you to consider someone a friend you have to not distrust them? What's the difference here from not distrusting someone and trusting them? How much you're comfortable with someone as well, they are both spectrums as well and i would think the higher they are the higher someone would be on the other spectrums, they'd be at least related in some way, when you say you can't distrust someone to be your friend you have to trust them completely, that's obviously not the case but it is in some less absolute manner.
Well, these relating to friendship i think someone you talk to more, is more comfortable with, the responses they give would affect how much you care for them and where they sit on the friendship thing assuming it goes upper than just friends, you can talk to people you don't care you can also not talk to people you care i think, can you not talk to people you're friends with, can you consider the friend you talk to everyday and have fun/is more comfortable with the same as one that you aren't like that, i'm not sure, i get there isn't a threshold to talk to someone but there is one for the other things like comfort, trust and care, all these would affect each other, especially the conversations you have with the friends or non friends, i'd expect these conversations, to a lesser extent how frequent they are to make or break the friendship, care, everything else.
Correct me if i misunderstood anything, i'm not really sure.
a reall friend WOULDNT SAVE FUCKING MASTER1200'S
It feels alright. You can shit on each other, laugh about it, talk about stuff that you both interested in, ask for help, not talk with each other for week and then chat again like nothing and if you ever will argue with each other, you'll in the end say sorry for each other, because you both know it would be ashamed to stop being friends after being though together for many years. Though with friends or not, you'll still be as miserable as you are, friends can't change you significantly, only you can.
Did I answered your question?
Sorry for poor grammar, I'm just a little tired.
How long do you have to not interact with someone for them to be "someone you don't interact with"? Do you have to interact with them regularly? How often? It's undefined.
That's what I mean when I say vague.
In some situations I agree that after 20 years it would be a new friendship, but not in all. If I, after those 20 years, met a friend again and cared for them again for the same reasons I had 20 years ago, I would consider that to be the old friendship, that, to be a friendship that lasted those 20 years. If I, reunited with them, found new reasons to care for them, that would be the new friendship. Both can coexist.
Perhaps because of a lack of many of them (though I doubt it) I've never considered any friend to be above another. All are equal before the round table. As all are equal, there is no spectrum within friendship. When it comes to adjectives, all friends are good friends, all friends are close friends, no matter how far they may be physically, no matter how long it has been since you've last met. Some may be annoying, some may be harsh, but friends nonetheless. As for best? Or similar words like better or worse, I don't use them.
Back to the beginning, yes, if someone has completely left my life, I can still care for them.
If my friend told me he were going on a journey. That he would likely never return, I would care and care for him until I could care no more, until, in the wash of life I forgot, and if he returned, or if I remembered, I would care once again.
To trust someone is to say that I believe that in some situation they will do [something] "positive". For example, that in rough times they'll have my back.
To distrust someone is to say that I believe that in some situation they will do [something] "negative". For example, sell me out, snitch on me.
Also half-within distrust exist people that I cannot "trust that they will do" something. Often, these are people with mental disorders that make them unpredictable, e.g. DID, shizophrenia
To consider someone a friend, I don't particularly need to trust that they'll always be there for me, that's a lot to expect. But, I do need to trust that they are not out to get me, that is, I need to not distrust them.
When I said I don't particularly trust people, what I meant is that I don't "truly" trust people.
True trust is complete trust, comprehensive knowledge, giving you complete predictive capability as to their actions: where you can, no matter the subject, say "I trust them to do [this]". I don't have such comprehensive knowledge on people. Therefore I don't truly trust people. Therefore I don't particularly trust people.
I know that it is confusing, my using the same words in slightly different ways to mean completely different things, and I'm sorry.
I don't find the frequency that I communicate with someone to have any bearing on how much I care for them.
I consider comfort, like care, to be not a spectrum, if I consider it a spectrum there is a threshold below which it's not comfortable and above which is unnecessary to comfort. What I will say is that comfort can be specific. There are some things that one will never be comfortable sharing with anyone. Some thing that one will comfortable sharing with one friend and not another. This kind of comfort has no bearing on friendship. Friends do not and cannot share all of your interests, you cannot be comfortable with someone in all situations, such a bond is perfection, such is love.
My brain is tired.
Addend: Comfort is like trust, one cannot distrust a friend, one cannot be uncomfortable around a friend. But neither does one need to trust a friend or to be comfortable with a friend in every capacity.