Is it really possible to turn your life around? 27 and a loser.. is a meaningfully productive life really possible...

> be me, early 20s
> cushiony remote developer position
> great team and great project
> will be lucrative once launched
> % ownership of future dividend payouts + salary
> be too fucking lazy to work on it and instead game all day with friends
> keep making excuses to push deadlines back, they seem understanding

Tomorrow marks a few months since the start. Why am I fucking retarded and not work? I fully enjoy it, have plenty of money, but instead I just fuckin slack off

Meaning is hard to find bros, but hopefully one day we all will find it

because death is perhaps better than an existence perpetually at the bottom-rung
but it's true, i've never tried before, oddly enough

youtube.com/watch?v=VkrC3QKpoH8
i'm going to take this advice, maybe consider it for yourself

frankly i want to do something.. great? not even the best in the world but i think there's a way of producing art which is.. existentially gratifying.
it's not like i'm asking for everything, but if all that is in front of me is a shitty existence then in a sense i may as well stay a drug addict

No, and the world is getting worse literally every year.

Doesn't work like that, champ. A lack of "spirit" is not he reason people's lives suck. It's typically a lack of money or broken society.

You say 27 like that's old. You're asking the wrong place for help my friend. Dont listen to these people. You're still young and there's still time. The whole world has literally paused because of this outbreak shit.
Start planning and getting your stuff together so when things start to move again you know what you're setting out for and ways you can possible get it.

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Yes, that is all that is missing, and it's the most important thing to me.

Yea mate accept the pain and things will get better from the pain you feel pain is a precursor to progress.

>I always fail because of my lack of discipline.
something you can fix yourself
>I just want to get a job that's not the lowest level of shit wageslavery
meaning you don't want to work in retail or other such services? There are plenty of jobs that don't require much experience that you might enjoy. What interests you? What do you want to pursue?
if you haven't ever tried to live a fulfilling life then you don't have any grounds for such fatalistic and all encompassing statements
how it works for many, yes, but both of the people who have replied to me have said it's due to lack of spirit so...

Anything is possible but it isn't up to you. The best you can do is to do what you can and that's about it

yeah I see that user. I am 27 and still working on the house buying part. something tells me that there is more time, and that when I have my own place it will be "easier" to find someone. I am sure that is a pipedream and I will end up cyaniding

any adivce for a fren?

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op here
i feel like there's a part of me which holds back from making that decision. i can't be bound by something that i might want to jump off of shortly. i feel like i have to be thrilled about where i will one day end up, rather than compromising the now and the later

>if you haven't ever tried to live a fulfilling life then you don't have any grounds for such fatalistic and all encompassing statements
maybe, i don't know for sure. i plan to try, i have everything written out. i will see because i don't want to commit suicide. but it could be the case that some lives are better unlived, or of such little actual value that, properly considered, they are meaningless

i actually think this is more true than initially. i think that there is a certain "way" you can be that will make you 400% more effective, and i think that this is to be found with the proper motivation. i think proper motivation comes with the right goals. but sometimes you are beset with hurdles that you simply won't be able to cope with, and it doesn't matter what was supposed to be true.

>any adivce for a fren?
Yes.
My advice is to abandon the idea
>that when I have my own place it will be "easier" to find someone

I have owned my house since I was 21, it makes no real difference.
Don't think it'll make it any easier, or you'll only be disappointed.
I say this out of kindness, the one thing that has caused me more pain than anything else has been false hope.

why don't you guys learn how to socialize more? saying that without judgement

yeah user, thanks for that tough love talk. I will still work on buying a place to reach some level of independence I have always framed for myself, as well as I don't want to rent in my state from a financial standpoint.
I have been going to the gym and self improving for a year plus now, at least in terms of physical appearance, went to the dentist to get my teeth sorted, get better exercise, sleep, rest etc. eat a healthier diet and everything. I won't pretend for a moment than I am better than a 6/10 on a good day but it boggles my mind that I see sub 6s in relationships together. In fact it makes me resentful and angry

im ending it all when i turn 21

Thanks for the vid user, weird intro but really liked the message, def a cool watch. Gonna try to get my shit together, im reaching the tipping point of falling into neet-ville and i hate it

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They are the 6/10 that won because of the one thing you cannot see. their mindset. Self deprecating speak only ever lowers your self image, never raises it. Once you fix your mindset, and ignore all the shallow surface level conclusions, your life will exponentially improve in ways you never thought possible

>disjejjahaha

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I don't know user this kind of sounds like something I have heard and actively worked to improve... for years. I admitted I didn't like myself, I admitted there were things I needed to work on so that is what I took the initiative to do.

But like another user mentioned, doing everything "right" getting educated, gaining wealth, physically improving none of this made a girl stop and think "hey there is a guy I might be interested in". The reason I gave up a long time ago is because I am decent at analyzing people or at the very least their intentions. if there was a woman who was interested in me I would have capitalized on such an opportunity... but alas there have been none

Regardless of finding a significant other or not, a self deprecating mindset is a downhill one. My life drastically changed once I actually reached rock bottom after my ex left me (planning on marrying lol)

I stopped overly worrying about how I appeared to others and instead starting being selfish with myself. I decided that I was sick of freaking out in social situations, and I wanted to better myself, well, for myself only. I didnt do it so i would stop seeming weird to others, but so i stopped seeming weird to me.

Took a year to fully overcome crippling social and travel anxiety. YMMV, but this was all possible because I found the friend in myself, and decided to stop worrying about others and instead myself for once. Gl user

>I stopped overly worrying about how I appeared to others
It is not that I am worried how I appear to others as much as I am worried how I appear to myself. I am not trying to look better solely for >gf I am also trying to max my strength and physical potential
>instead starting being selfish with myself.
something I can admittedly work on more, but too much selfishness isn't a great thing either.
>decided that I was sick of freaking out in social situations,
I don't have bad social anxiety I don't freak out all the time, I freak out by myself but that is suffering in silence, around people I am cool as a cucumber

thanks user, I need to look for that friend you were talking about. I admit I don't like myself all the time, and the other most of the time I am ignoring him