A lot of girls reject me instantly because of my age (I'm 30). It's soulcrushing because I don't want 30+ women. Hell...

A lot of girls reject me instantly because of my age (I'm 30). It's soulcrushing because I don't want 30+ women. Hell, even 25+ is pushing it even though it's my own age.
I can't accept the fact that every year as a I get older I need to bump up the age of my potential gf with one. The problem is, she gets worse with age, I don't.
I've never dated so I'm sure as hell not going to accept a girl who's had dozens of one night stands and long term relationships.

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>I've never dated
You get worse with age.

I believe many men have this problem these days.
Women get experience so much more easily than guys, so a 20yo woman always has more experience than a 30yo guy.
Some guys are bothered by this so they just go younger but at some point it's not possible.

Explain further, you provide no reasoning to your slander

Men age well because of success, experience, and money. Their looks are declining still.
if you have no experience you're just going to look like a weird creep to girls in their early 20s.

I can't agree. Men's looks age a lot better, we don't get wrinkles that easily etc.
I also have never smoked or drunk alcohol so I look 22.
But mainly what I like to correct in your post is that I have zero experience because it's been my own choice. For example, right now I could fuck a 33yo single mom if I wanted, but I don't want to. I hold certain standards.

I'm late 30s and I just want a fat nerdy female loser my age (or at least close to 30), but they've all gotten their Chads by now, or they're into camwhoring, porn, ERP, polyamory, orbiter collecting, BDSM/DDlg and that kind of nasty shit.

Well in any case the problem seems to be age with you and OP.

It's kinda scary to realize that once you hit 30 you can't get girls no matter how you look, how good your personality is etc.

>I cant agree. Men's looks age a lot better, we dont get wrinkles that easily etc

Cope.

It's a scientific fact that men don't droop like women because men have thicker skin so it stays in shape longer.
Last summer I went on a tinder date with a girl 2 years younger than me and it was quite horrible to realize she looked 40. Then again she might have just lied about her age, but it's also possible women just look that old.

>It's kinda scary to realize that once you hit 30 you can't get girls no matter how you look, how good your personality is etc.

Once I turned 26 a few months ago, I knew the clock was running out for me. Sure, I'm shit out of luck now, but 30 is the deadline. Time just keeps going forward.

TFW you're 30, look better than most 20-year-old guys, you're smart and soulful...
And what happens? The 20yo cutie says I'm too old, takes some 20yo guy and they break up within a year.

This, time fucking sucks. Fuck you time.

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that's why you are alone, trying to defend your cope online from faceless strangers. Long story short, lower the fuck out of your expectations, because if you never dated there's clearly a problem there, date someone close to your age and looks, if you don't have a awful personality it won't be that hard

>because if you never dated there's clearly a problem there

When I was your age I turned down girls.
I remember being 22 and a hot big titted girl liked me but I turned her down.
You keep telling me I'm shit but truth is, try being 30+, you have no idea how it affects you.

Wait what, when I'm 30 I'm supposed to only date worn out 30yo single moms?

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>Well in any case the problem seems to be age with you and OP.
Well yeah, if you didn't get a wife before 30 you're fucked.

Pretty much this, and it sucks. Men can reach their peak later in life but it might be too late.
I was an immature asshole at 20 but apparently the laws of dating say that I was in my prime then.
Now that I'm actually decent I'm out of the game.

I've got some bad news user. It's not your age that's the problem

It's not that you look bad or act too old at 30 or anything, it's just that women in your age group are not single at 30. They're married with kids already unless they're horrible and you most likely don't want them either, meaning you refuse to date in your own demographic. If you look for younger girls they'll be freaked out by the age difference even if it is just a number.
My solution: lie about your age. It's wrong, but if it gets you 2 months of decent gf time before it collapses, it's worth it.

>I've got some bad news user. It's not your age that's the problem

It literally is.

Even 40-50 year olds can get girls in 20s you are coping.

>Even 40-50 year olds can get girls in 20s

How? Teach me. I wanna date 20-year-olds when I'm 50. It's literally my only dream in life. Fuck getting rich, I want a 20-year-old virgin.

I don't drink, smoke or party, so I have a good chance of staying healthy.

Once you turn 25 that's the point of no return. Give up and live your life knowing you will never have a pure woman or die now and save yourself the suffering.

>live your life knowing you will never have a pure woman

Teach me how to cope. I think about not having a gf every day and it's stressful.

>meaning you refuse to date in your own demographic
That's not really fair to say, the problem is that there is no "my demographic" to even attempt to date. If there were women who are actually my equivalent, so fat nerdy women in their mid to late 30s, who had a handful of relationships (so not insane man hating femcels), not sociopaths/camwhores/websluts/autistic ERPers, value monogamy and just want true love, who wanted me, I'd be really happy with one?

But the life path of a woman is so different to the life path of a man that we might as well be entirely different species after 30.

>But the life path of a woman is so different to the life path of a man that we might as well be entirely different species after 30.

Well said, this explains a lot of what I'm feeling right now.
I literally feel like I'm a different species not just from most people but especially from women.
I can't remember ever connecting mentally with a woman. Might have happened in high school but after that the random variables keep piling up and right now, at 30 years old, I can't connect with 18-year-olds or 40-year-olds. I could fuck desperate Tinder milfs but I don't want to, because even fucking requires some connection.

Yeah, I'm in my young 20's, but I'd never date a dude who's 30 or even close to it. The older retards who go after young women are intolerable scrotums without exception

This opened my eyes. I made a chart based on it.

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So you're 24 and you wouldn't date a guy who is 28?
It's not that he's too old, you're too immature.

I'm 22 and a dude who's 28 is pushing it. 29/30 is unacceptable

>she gets worse with age i don't
X

How do you look? Women in their 20's don't reject me due to my age (just turned 33) since they usually claim I look 27. Having a decent speaking voice helps as well. Literally anything that makes you seem more virile and masculine can only help you.

I also have no problem telling women I don't like their hair.

I hope you can understand how superficial and moronic that is.
If you think love and mental connection can only happen with people who were born exactly the same time as you, you're an idiot.
I can see why so many decent males die alone. You women have vapid and ridiculous standards.
Like, what if I'm the one, the best guy you could ever find, and could give you the romance of a century? But then you find out I'm 7.5 years older than you and you call it off simply based on that number.
You should at least reason out why it is that this number makes dating impossible for you. You know a guy 7 years older than you doesn't look like crap. His personality is good too. He has money. He's potentially a good father. He's simply better husband material than a 22-year-old guy. You should realize that it takes a looong time for males to mature. You might be somewhat mature at 22 but guys your age just want to fuck and party. They're _not_ ready for marriage.

Btw thanks to your post I'm gonna start lying about my age. It's only fair. Ruling me out because I'm 28 is not reasonable.

>WAAAAH you can't be superficial! Only I can!
Then try dating women older than you kek.
>Like, what if I'm the one, the best guy you could ever find, and could give you the romance of a century?
Not the Disney Princess, Hollywood argument again. No man is perfect, most of them act very similarly, and I'm not into older men. End of story.

And given that you write like an over-emotional preteen girl, I frankly don't think you'll ever be ready for marriage at this rate.

>. You know a guy 7 years older than you doesn't look like crap.
So the upper 5% who can afford roids, hair transplants, gyno surgery, etc.

That's why we're called wizards. The older guy thing is a meme. It's money and experience that women like. Watch ideal bf threads, no one goes over 29.

>be in a coma for 2 years

>you gotta now look for girls 2 years older than before

I don't understand why you gotta raise the age of your dream girl every year.
I just DON'T GET IT. The whole premise is that people the same age have things in common but it's simply not true. I only have stuff in common with 18-year-old girls and it's always gonna stay that way.

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It's going to be interesting seeing all these young women who wouldn't even glance at an average looking and stablely employed 30 year old man a month ago completely change their preferences when this Depression is in full swing. I wonder how they'll justify it.

Nope, most middle aged men look like shit and men get wrinkles earlier than women because they dont take care of their skin.

Sorry but you already hit the wall dude. No young girls want to date old dudes unless for money

yep, this coronavirus crisis might end up being a good thing for most of us

>And given that you write like an over-emotional preteen girl, I frankly don't think you'll ever be ready for marriage at this rate.
Says guy who pretends to be a girl online.

Well the thing is, girls say their ideal age for a bf is 22 but that's because they don't know any better. They don't realize that 22yo guys may be physically good buy a 30yo guy is mentally heaps better. Girls just wish it wasn't like this and can't accept the truth.
Same goes both ways kinda, we want a 16yo girl and just wish that magically a 16-year-old girl could give us the insightful company a milf can.

Using makeup removal wipes is not taking care of your skin.

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>men get wrinkles earlier than women because they dont take care of their skin.
1. The argument about thicker skin still holds true, ask any medschool user.
2. Men take care of their skin. I don't smoke and drink unlike all you women. I don't wear makeup that dries up the skin either.

>Sorry but you already hit the wall dude.
Don't expect me to get a job and pay taxes then. No young gf? No incentive to work.

I'm 30 and all the 30yo women I've found on Tinder have looked worse than I do.

Are you assholes telling me I gotta date a person worse than me just because of the number meme?
Age is literally just a number.

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>Are you assholes telling me I gotta date a person worse than me just because of the number meme?
No, you don't have to date them. You don't have to date anyone.

>I don't drink, smoke or party, so I have a good chance of staying healthy.
Yes, not doing any fun things because youre too afraid to break your hip is quite the appealing quality, grandpa

It's hilarious how you kids think 26 is "granpa" or "boomer" tier.

Just reveals the fact you're either a moron or secretly using this site despite being 15.

Are you implying a man can live without women? They can't.

I'd say you and the types you are going for are a bit of weirdo's if you're that concerned about age. I always went for women that were older than me personally no idea why just how that shook out. Never seen much of a point of view to hit the pause button on an age category if they're already an adult. Always been a bit toward prefering not dating girls younger than myself, I tended to like women that are more independent rather then a house pet to someone else. Younger people tend to not have any realistic ambition, and are more likely to try and pick up some of your behaviors and mannerisms. Never personally liked myself all that much so it seems like a bit of a shame when others start to act like me since I don't generally pick the best options available when I know I should.
But what do I know, not like I'm trying to settle or have relationships.

Lmao, women in their 30s are the least desirable women. I am sure someone would go after an 80+ year old before them since they at least enjoy cooking and cleaning.

That just reminded me of an amusing story. Apparently my grandfather would do the shopping for my grandmother when she was hooked up with an air machine and nozzle to her nose. I believe he said he can't bring her because there would be no accommodations. It wasn't until my ain't brought her there and my grandmother was put on one of those electric carts she realized she was had by my grandfather. If I ever get a girlfriend, i have to do something that I'd similar like that to her.

i don't get you people. you're 30 and obviously sexually and romantically unsatisfied so at this point you should be taking whatever you can get. i'm also 30 and I've dated lots of overweight 30 y.o. women from tinder, most of them unemployed or working fast food.

Youre quite the touchy whiner arent you?

I read your other responses through the thread and you say whatever you need to to justify why you think you would be a good partner and why you've never dated at such a late age in life, but the truth is to an outsider that all comes off as red flaggy. At 30 years old you should have been able to have at least one or two serious relationships. When you were 24 why couldn't you find someone? Maybe you matured much too slowly. Maybe you have some hidden personal problems. It sounds like you have a hard time realizing your own faults and taking accountability for them. If you were perfect you wouldn't be alone right now, but alone is where you are headed and not because the universe has singled you out but because of your own doing. You have flaws that have held you back in life and I'm sorry but your situation makes you look creepy to normies. You're probably the type of guy girls joke about being a serial killer/pedophile/rapist or maybe because you've been alone for this whole time they think you're closet gay.
My point is you either need to open up to the idea of dating people with some kind of baggage (which is actually completely normal to have at your age) or get used to the idea that you're dying alone.

or... maybe he's just ugly.

There is no reason to go with a 30+ year old. You've seen many of their profiles
>I want to settle down
>Tired of playing games
>I want something serious
>I'm tired of fuckboys
>I want to be wine and dined
All this is saying is that the fun stops here and what ever fun experiences she had when she was younger you will never get to experience.

his personality isn't looking that pretty either

>At 30 years old you should have been able to have at least one or two serious relationships. When you were 24 why couldn't you find someone?
See - I had a handful of "serious" relationships, doesn't do anything when they end after a year or three and then you're 35 and can't get anyone even remotely similar to you anymore.

Having had 0 or 5 relationship leads to pretty much the same experience for a man after 30.

not that it matters since women can't see past his looks.

>You're probably the type of guy girls joke about being a serial killer/pedophile/rapist or maybe because
aka not Chad, retarded moron

go to thailand for a week my dude

you'll get a gf within the hour

>When you were 24 why couldn't you find someone?

I rejected like 20 girls. I believe I mentioned this several times.