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Only have a common one, sorry user

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At least it's assertive

INTJ here. Can't speak to dissociatives, but psychedelics are extremely potent. LSD and 2cb particularly, though DMT and salvia were less interesting. Enjoy amphetamines (meth, Adderall, etc) a lot too.

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>DMT and salvia were less interesting
How so? This is an uncommon take.

>your MBTI type
>What are you in sosionics?

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why live when you are an infp male?

haha original comment about funny meme haha

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Your Socionics type is just your MBTI type with J/P reversed.

>There are people here that are non-INTJs
REEEEEE GET OFF MY BOARD NORMALFAGS

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HAHAHAHA NAMEFAGGING IS DISABLED, BYE BYE TURBIE, BEST DAY OF THE WHOLE YEAR

INTP >= INFP > the rest when it comes to robothood

Is scored esfj but I can say that this whole stupid mbti thing is clearly some pseudo bullshit, you guys are really idiots for believing in it. Despite scoring as what you call "sensor" and "feeler" I can still see clearly that this is all obviously so wrong!

Salvia and DMT were mostly visual for me, which can be nice. I love the thought loops and epiphanies that you have on LSD or shrooms. I didn't feel that as much on either of the former, though DMT is great if you're just looking for a physically powerful experience.

2cb is kinda nostalgic, had some great times with friends. Also goes great with music.

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What puts me off about LSD, shrooms and 2C-B is the length of the trip. It's difficult to plan out when you don't live alone.
>mostly visual
Aren't salvia and DMT allegedly the most powerful psychedelic experiences you can have by far, on average (i.e. excluding very high doses of LSD and such)? You didn't have any strong impressions or feelings at all, just impressive visuals?

redpill me on socionics

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Is it really disabled?
testing

Hello INFJ here, how goes it friends?
youtu.be/Atx1ktB2dgs

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Oh fuck it is lmao
Why did they do it?

based band infjbro

cos namefags are retarded pieces of shit even turbie is nigga kills these by mass replying

Not really a meme, but interesting

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OFFICIAL R9K MBTI TYPE POLL

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Worst part is the one or two idiots that reply to it.

Why are INTP and ENTJ ideal?
Wouldn't leading Te clash horribly with leading Ti, seeing it as inconsistent and inefficient?
Similarly, wouldn't inferior Fi clash with inferior Fe? I mean basically all their functions are opposites of each other, how is this supposed to work?
The INTP would feel stressed and coerced by their partner's drive and focus, and the ENTJ would feel irritated and brought down by their partner's abstractness and inconsistency.

I thought it was about how the functions complement each other. Having simillar functions doesn't mean anything since they can still clash such as two INTJs having opposing ideas.

Isn't that the point though, functions complementing each other? How else do you assess compatibility?

By similar reasoning ENFP/INFJ would be a horrible pairing, and yet it works really well apparently. I think it's because INTP and ENTJ both have the T-N function order, so they basically understand each other and communicate ideas to each other that feel fresh and interesting, even if they don't hold the same values. Also as an INTP I think it would be nice to have a partner who's driven to take care of the stuff I'm not good at/don't care about so I can focus on what I enjoy. In Socionics it's a pairing that works well one on one, but in groups, it can fall apart, and the extrovert gets suspicious of the introvert.

>in groups, it can fall apart
What do you mean?
Also, ESTJ is listed as ideal as well, even though they're sensors and not NT. Wouldn't it be even harder to relate in that case?

I think its because the functions and their places, if you want to look more into this I know a guy on youtube who explains it pretty well, CSJoseph, he seems pretty based

Thanks I'll check it out originally.

That's what I said. Even with same functions, people will clash based on personal ideas.
I think there is more than just functions that make people compatible since even two people of the same type can be compatible.

>Te doesn't factor in? Rational analysis based on external observations seems fundamental to the evaluation of intelligence.
I don't know what "Rational analysis based on external observations" means, but the wiki page on socionics defines Te as follows:
>Pragmatism (P) is judgement of the efficiency of actions and technical processes, the prudence of a method or approach and how it will work practically. P is geared towards facts and assesses situations based on what happened, looking to convey information as accurately as possible, making communication dry and matter-of-fact. In this sense, it is the opposite of Emotions. P approaches systems in terms of how they can be improved, changing and adding to one's knowledge through empirical observation in order to increase functionality and profitability. In this sense, it is the inverse of Laws.
The question to ask is whether an IQ test tests for Te (in real time). My answer would be that strong Te doesn't express itself as an immediately noticeable (or testable) skill, but moreso as a noticeable attitude ("so long as it works"). Now admittedly Te is my PolR function and I may not be the best person to ask for this, but my experience is this: most higly gifted children I see are INFJs. Now keep in mind that these are children. Testing for IQ in (young) children is always done by "professional" - never on paper. It makes perfect sense that Ni-Fe is the perfect tool to ace an IQ test with such a central interpersonal element.

Even so I find it difficult to identify even in conventional intelligence tests questions that test for Te. Or rather: I don't think they're there, because I can do them. I've seen adult ESTJs do very well on (written) tests though, so who knows.

Its from the idea that people with opposite functions complement eachother, in that the introverted functions consumes what the extroverted functions produces.

However, I personally believe this is a gross misunderstanding of how the functions actually work.

For example one thing that it describes is that Fe gives care, and that Fi wants care, and back gives moral behaviour to Fe.

But Fe dosent seek to care for others, it seeks to fit into the group dynamic. Fi dosent seek care, it seeks close relations. Imagine an Fe user always trying to get an Fi user to act in the group dunamic, and the Fi user always critizising the Fe user for caring about the group dynamic.

I rather believe that the functions are like languages, so when two people with the same functions interract, they get alobg qell because they understand eachother veiwpoints. Futher I believe that if a person who has a certain function higher than another person, interract with that person, then that will help the person's growth in that function.

This is why I believe that dual relations are the best, becayse they help eachother grow in their weak areas. But I also believe a person needs a certain amount of maturity for it to work, in that they need relize exactly in what areas theyre bad, and seek improvment in those areas.

intuitives have higher iqs than sensoids

Sensoids are NPCs.

so apparently spock is an istj and not an intp
what's up with that

INTJ here. ISTPs are too good for the sensoid world.
ESTJs can also be pretty dependable. Males. Probably not females.

Also, I forgot ISTJs can be very based as well. I always thought Spock was an INTJ before. I could see ISTJ though. No one can tell me that Dr. Manhattan is not an INTJ though.

>infp
>met a nice girl online
>4 solid hours of talking about our feelings
>the more we talk, the more distant we seem
>she's certainly not my idealised friend
>added me on twitter = there's no way back now
I love chatting online but long-term relationships always drain me out, especially if we barely have anything in common. Is it how those real friendships work? Sure, I can listen as much possible; discovering how others perceive the world is the most interesting thing ever and she seems to be very troubled. She's more down to earth though, which complicates everything.
She's a certified ISFP, but it's like 50/50 true because depression. Don't know much of that type. Seems really friendly and tolerant, 0 daydreaming though
How can I move a girl's heart, anons? The sky looks very different for both of us and my reality might be boring to her
I want to keep her as a friend because she's not 99% my type. May be my first fren in years

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>tfw I constantly shit on my type in these threads
>other people of the same type probably hate me for it

ENTJ reporting, I can agree. The T-N function far outweighs the Fi/Fe.

One of my best friends is an INTP and our relationship is anchored around our N-T aspects.

Probably because the mods are too brainlet to program user inputted text to get Zalgo'd so they just hardcoded "Anonymous" for this Corona prank

Socionics is mostly the same as MBTI, but their J/P means something different. In MBTI, your J/P indicates your highest extraverted function, for example an ENTJ and an INTJ both have Te (extraverted judging). In Socionics, your J/P indicates your highest function, regardless of extraversion. So an ENTj has Te at the top and an INTj has Ti at the top (MBTI INTP).

I misspoke earlier when I said that it is just opposite J/P, if you are an extravert, your MBTI and Socionics are the same, if you are an introvert, the J/P is reversed.

The advantage of MBTI's system is that types with the same functions but different orders will have similar 4-letter codes (Ti,Ne,Si,Fe = INTP and Ne,Ti,Fe,Si = ENTP). Since the last letter describes the extraverted function, it helps with typing people.

On the other hand, the last Socionics letter describes peoples' actual dominant function, so it is more accurate, but you might not see someone's dominant function if it is introverted. Also, it is confusing to some people because INFjs and ENFjs are totally different types (that is INFPs and ENFJs in MBTI). The type codes aren't as intuitive.

CS Joseph is a total quack with a cult following, everything that comes out of his mouth is complete horse crap.

how do ENTJs feel about INFPs?

t. INFP who keeps accidentally falling in love with especially ruthless ENTJs

ENTJ here. We look at people as tools desu. Machiavellianism is massive with us. Bring something to the table we want, we'll keep you around. I pick my girlfriends based on what they can do for me. Attraction and emotion plays little part in it.

An INFP is my dream wife
shut up larping nigger

>have ISFJ "gf"
>SJW, resorts to talk to orbiters if any inconvenience happen
Sure, pretty tradwife. Then she wonders why I don't want to make us official.

Heya. Anyone wanna vent? Also feel free to ask me anything.

So, how has your day been?

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What larp. Just cause you're an autistic virgin doesn't mean the rest of us are.

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>what larp
Being an ENTJ doesn't mean that you have to look at people as tools, dude. If you actually feel that way, you have Antisocial Personality Disorder or something.