In this thread we talk about how hard it is being a loser female

bullshit you all have friend groups or best friends and everytime you fucks get a boyfriend you dump him thinking you can do better and when it doesn't work you double down until it does you're all nuts bunch of maniacs you're freakin crazy man

i'm like 87lbs. i've spent almost my whole life online, and have never been orbited, and am constantly disregarded when i try to join an online community (i can never even integrate). i am literally just uncharismatic, and posting my face has never made up for it. it's so annoying making friends with any guy online, and him just using you as a therapist, and admitting to orbiting some e-girl. i don't even think my experience is exceptional, e-girls do not make up the majority of girls online, i would imagine that a majority of girls like me (average looks and a lack of charisma) feel the same - but no one even sees them lol.

Only received 150 messages today out. Sad part is I have 500 discord followers!

no it isn't, try being a short ugly manlet like me you stupid retard

>tfw when no ugly, nerdy and chubby gf why god

>average looks
honestly that's attractive enough for me. wanna chat somewhere else?

LOL EAT SHIT YOU FUGLY BITCH

I'm not gonna fall for this. Your tactics are well know already. You might suck 29 dicks per month in average. Kys

It really stinks when you love someone for who they are on the inside and they still say to your face "I wish you were taller than me" or "I'd prefer if you weren't so short" you think they're nice and humble but they're just as shallow as any other women it's the worst

You don't have to have charisma, you need to hold a fucking conversation.

That's actually charisma. Most people don't have, but it can be learned.

Read the charisma myth

i mean i don't but ok...
sorry, i'm blackpilled on internet relationships/friendships lol
i've consistently had to carry conversations, which just leads to me constantly listening and providing advice to people, which inevitably leads to them becoming angry when i'm not able to emotionally support them completely - and they never ask me anything.

you don't try so you're never gonna succeed, that's why blackpill is idiotic

don't give (You)s to this attention whore

How much dicks you suck on average? You don't need to lie femanon

Loser girls are invisible to men.
The chads obviously don't want them.
The loser guys are blind to girls below 7/10.
(Quit the bullshit, incels. Everyone knows you ignore loser girls. Your scale maps from 7-10 to 0-10)

Can one of you femcels post an image of a woman who looks similar to you? I find it extraordinarily hard to imagine a woman I would not be attracted to, unless she was morbidly obese, elderly, or something. I'm attracted to pretty much every single girl my age who isn't a completely unhygienic landwhale.

if you are even 5 out of 10 i'd be happy, let alone a 6/10 or 7/10. the problem is finding common ground. i just have uncommon interests be it with normies or people here. doesn't matter how nice i am or if i'm high achieving.

I'm curious to know what your uncommon interests are.

i like classical music, military history, and soccer, and i like the latter two to the point that people might find me to be autistic about them.

I find it ridiculous when anons say that there are no fembots and shit like that. You remember that girl in your class that never spoke and was plain looking at best? Probably not. Just like how other people dont remember you, because you were more or less the same. But the point is, they exist. I promise.

Fuck yeah I do. I fell in love with a self-described loser girl once and guess what? Over the fucking internet. I even secretly borrowed money to go see her. Guess what? She pulled the "you deserve better" cancer so I'd fuck off, until I was so depressed and heartbroken that I stopped talking to her. I talked to her again and she had already fucked some guy (that I know of).

Sure, a hot girl would most likely do the same but it's expected. If I could even get a 7-10 and she cucked me, I wouldn't be surprised. I'd consider myself lucky to have even gotten her attention. "Loser" bitches can die of covid for all I care.

(You)

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I dont see how this is possible if you arent fat and facially disfigured. Youre just an attention whore looking for compliments. And e girls have as much charisma as a tree. They just bat their eyes and wiggle their tits.

>self-described loser girl
>self-described
doesn't necessarily mean she was one, does it? do you realise the amount of self-described robots and incels here, who are actually just underage normies?

and i was hoping to be proven wrong but damn, lol

You're a fucking retard. Personality is the biggest factor for MEN, but women on the other hand can easily get laid and get a bf just through looking vaguely attractive. Literally if you're not a landwhale all you have to do is go to bars, and guys will approach you, and if you even just hint that you're interested in fucking them, they'll continue to pursue you. Being male loser is so much harder, you've got it so fucking easy in comparison.

Okay, if they exist, could you send me a photo of one? Or are they like the mythical bigfoot?
Last semester I sat next to an objectively plain looking chubby girl, who I think was autistic too, but I still developed a massive crush on her. Point is, I suspect most self-labelled femcels are just underconfident and set high standards, not actually incapable of getting a boyfriend.

>I dont see how this is possible if you arent fat and facially disfigured
well, that's just been my experience.

>Personality is the biggest factor for MEN, but women on the other hand can easily get laid and get a bf just through looking vaguely attractive
>implying being valued on your looks is easier than being valued on your personality
>implying being used as a sex object is a privilege

what color is your skin?
would you date a guy that's 5'7-5'8?

>implying being used as a sex object is a privilege
This. Yeah we can get dick easy but women also get raped, sexually assaulted, sexually harassed.

Men are also valued as sex objects in this context, tard. The way they're objectified just relates more to things like eye contact and confidence; "personality" in this context doesn't refer to overall character. Ideally character would be the determinant of attractiveness for both sexes, but it's not for either. Stop pretending that men have it easier in the dating game, male losers have it much worse than female losers.

Obviously it's harder overall being a woman than it is being a man, mainly because you don't have to deal with rape and shit, but when we're comparing whether it's easier being a socially inept male or female, the women clearly have it better, because being socially inept isn't completely devastating to womens' attractiveness, whereas it is extremely emasculating and thus has a severely detrimental impact on mens' attractiveness.

>value is placed on confidence and eye contact
how does this make you a sex object?

I dont have a photo because I dont really save pics of girls I dont find attractive. And girls dont post pics of themselves that they dont find attractive.

Oh gee I dunno maybe because objectification isn't solely based on visual stimuli, but can be based on other things, including for example prejudice? Jews who changed their names and hid in plain sight from the nazis, for example, were immediately objectified once their Jewish heritage was discovered: this objectification was not due to visual stimuli, but prior prejudice.
But eye contact actually is a visual stimuli; confidence on the other hand manifests visually and audibly, as well as in the content of speech. The fact that sexual objectification occurs differently in regards to men as it does women only speaks for the fact that men and women and their attraction to one another is different. But it is still essentially sexual objectification both ways; women still sexually objectify men.

>Jews who changed their names and hid in plain sight from the nazis, for example, were immediately objectified once their Jewish heritage was discovered
you mean mistreated? I don't think you actually know what objectification is, never mind sexual objectification. being judged on basic social cues and confidence, is not the same as being judged on your sexuality and appearance. doesn't matter if eye contact is visual stimuli or not, or how confidence manifests; your post is a good example of someone who talks a lot but isn't really saying anything.

Just come live in my house. You don't need to work or anything. Just suck my cock 3 times a week and you'll be happy.

Just find a man that will love and protect you, you loser cunt.

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>if they lack femininity almost no guy will touch them
i agree, however that's fixable with feminine clothing (dresses, heels) and makeup.

Done. Asl?

Sorry, real women only.

What is a 7/10 to you? I'm a virgin loser and the only kind of girl I ignore is whales. Still, no luck.

I agree. I fucking wish so many times I'm a male instead of female. Yeah dick is good, tits are good, but damn being treated like a cum rag, people don't fucking listen to you, respect you or expect you to be slut. It's tiring.

Can't even go outside shirt less ever...

Wish to be a chad male because if you end as an average or under average male you're gonna get royally fucked.

31/M/Western Mass

To a certain extent I agree. A woman is judged by her appearance. So if she is uggo, then she has no value.

That being said. Men are horny, so they have low standards. The female has to be UGLY with no chance of redemption through makeup or surgery for them to pass up some tang.

Men can be ugly, but at least they are judged by more than appearance. Can always try to build up a personality, make some money or just wait for women to get older and develop baby fever.

I just don't know how much I agree with this. I see ugly women with men all the time. All the good ol' boys in my town have hambeast wives and the nu-males have these busy-bodies with RBF, and I wouldn't fuck any of them.

if any loser females are looking for a chad to orbit, you can add me and I'll vet you tomorrow
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> I don't think you actually know what objectification is
Please read even the smallest amount of philosophy concerning objectification. I don't think you understand what it means. Objectification is generally to consider somebody as purely an object and not their own subject, certainly not a subject in the same capacity as the objectifier. You'd be wise not to argue with that because otherwise you risk invalidating all sorts of feminist philosophy, and we might have to start questioning whether women really are objectified at all, seeing as you don't seem to have any clear definition of objectification (and you're seemingly rejecting to definition used in academia).
>being judged on basic social cues and confidence, is not the same as being judged on your sexuality and appearance.
Sexuality, certainly male sexuality, does not refer exclusively to appearance. What you're trying to do is pick one form of sexuality (the one which applies to women) and say that this is the only sexuality and there is no other form (so apparently men are literally not sexualised whatsoever; not by the women who are fucking them, not by the women who find them attractive, sexuality does not factor into it). It's insanely dumb to think such a thing. Just like women can sexualise themself by putting on a "sexy voice" or a certain act, so are men sexualised by their social mannerisms. You're a fucking retard.

I have masculine interests, behavior, and mannerisms, but my hair is very long and my voice is quite high pitched!