I would like to hear my fellow robots opinion on abortion
>is it moral
>does every women have the right to kill a unborn baby
My personal opinion is that it is a sick cruel act and goes against the laws of nature
Dont want a baby Dont have unprotected sex with someone you dont love
>oh noooo but a fetus is just a cluster of cells Arent we all just a cluster of cell at 4 weeks a baby has a beating heart How are you going to make the argument that its not alive
What if your grandmother was aborted by your great grandmother How many people would be deleted from existence How many lives would be changed because of your great grans selfishness
I would like to hear good well thought out arguments below
Abortion is wrong, yes. There is no question about it.
BUT. It kills a whole lot of blacks that would otherwise be walking around. Just look up the data on how many black women abort compared to the others.
Abortion was actually initially a eugenics program and it targeted blacks, and it still is in all but name. Ending abortion would be very retarded for society.
Jace Walker
Basically this. Sums it up perfectly.
Dylan Evans
We need to get more shitskins to do it and get whites to stop
Jacob Carter
I think the termination of life is okay when it is beneficial. i.e. abortion, death penalty, assisted suicide.
The fetus is a clump of cells, but still somewhat of a life. An abortion would benefit every party involved if it is an unwanted pregnancy.
Yeetus the feetus
Cameron Bailey
What if your mother was aborted?
Joshua Murphy
Then she simply would have been aborted.
Austin Evans
And you wouldnt be able to post your retarded comment, maybe she should of had an abortion it would be ridding the world of a low iq fag
Brandon Ward
You say abortion is wrong and then complain about how you have never wanted your parents to make you and how your life is shit. I am absolutely pro abortion. I would prefer to never have lived at all than being raised by junkies or retards that can't even financially support my existence. I would prefer death than being born in a family that doesn't want you at all but are just forced to accept you or put you up for adoption. I honestly think you have your heads so far up your asses, thinking to yourself how amazing you are for giving shit lives to already overpopulated planet. If not abortion then I would love some kind of documentations that the parents can sign. Let's say that the mother doesn't want it but the father does. In that case the mother has to keep it and afterwards the father takes custody. Mother is restrained from any further contact with the child and no financial support. Same goes for the father. And if they both don't want it then they abort it.
Jonathan Scott
Why is abortion wrong if it benefits society? What makes abortion immoral?
David Myers
Ugh same, I wish every baby was aborted. I have a new single mom friend every day and none of us know the sperm donor
Jackson Bell
>believing in morally objective right and wrong
Tyler Brown
I dont complain about my life kek just go kill yourself if you dont wanna be alive you faggot
Grayson Foster
Abortion is used as a insult and a false flag, pro lifers have murdered pregnant women. Women carry the babies but men still kill them even if they are pregnant
Andrew Hernandez
>I would like to hear good well thought out arguments below can't form an argument because i don't see any reasoning for it being immoral
Yeah same, how is abortion immoral? The baby belongs to the mom not strangers who dislike abortions . It's like claiming you're married to someone you only saw once
Jordan Jenkins
Because its taken a life? Maybe abortion should be legal as the people who are retarded enough to do it do not deserve to reproduce
Jace Hernandez
>larp We dont know who the father is so I cant give you proof. We had to give a single mom a home because her bf of whatever hated her and almost made a 6 year old homeless
Nolan Kelly
That is completely false brain dead liberal Nobody has yet come to me with a good argument pathetic
A man shot up planned parenthood in defense of the fetuses, and he killed potential mothers. Its literally in the news.
I for one will use birth control pills and not planned parenthood, I dont want to be killed for being pregnant
Jace King
Abortion is wrong, but it helps society. If we didn't have them, there would be a helluva lot more scumbags, niggers, gangbangers, etc. running about.
Evan Rodriguez
Again see to my points weak minded fool, dont have sex with someone you dont love and dont truly know kek
Caleb Morales
Potential mothers while in a abortion clinic the roastie scum deserved it
James Edwards
Okay you win yaay you won user
Random sexual encounters are random
Jacob Gonzalez
I thought that it was usefull yo keep it ilegal to punish whores for promiscuity, but reality is they will do it anyway, or worse, habe the kind and drop it in a garage bin.
The most humane method is to make legal. Whores will whore, we are already too much in this world...better to give the people all the options to opt out of parenthood, so the children are raised in decent homes, with resources for a good childhood and with parents that actually wanted them.
Dylan Torres
if life being taken is immoral then so is killing roaches/bugs/animals or killing in self-defense all of which i disagree with so i disagree with the premise that's not even talking about all the potentially killed bacterias if you actually weep over killed insects and bacterias you're a freak to be honest
Michael Hill
You just compared a human baby to a roach and an incest. Completely pathetic and disgusting.
Jackson Sullivan
would you kill an insect?
Connor James
Still nobody? With all your distorted world views no one can challenge any of my points. You the are the people that will say fetus arent human. Just look at ur arguments, you are vermin.
Aiden Turner
I think it is immoral, but it has to stay legal for practical reasons.
Ian Rivera
Yes an incest is not like a human life you mongoloid pig
you don't have a womb how can you relate. getting an abortion is an exercise of control over ones body/life. people don't have control over many things in their lives, but having control of ones body, even if that's the only thing they have control over, keeps a person sane. I guess you don't think about a persons sanity
Isaiah Martin
Safe sex Pre marital sex Not fucking strangers Removal of tinder aka fast food sex
All of these things should be done before killing a baby
so you're being a hypocrite when you say taking a life is immoral you don't actually believe that so why do you really hate abortions?
state your points
Nolan Rivera
DONT HAVE UNSAFE SEX AHAH
HAVE SEX WITH SOMEONE YOU LOVE AND YOU WONT HAVE TO KILL A BABY
Your arguments are a fucking joke.
Gabriel Gomez
ok, but obviously people aren't doing that, which is why criminalising abortion isn't practical right now.
Ryan Peterson
a female can have get pregnant with someone she loves dearly and still want an abortion. you're missing the point by zooming in on the arguments you like
Juan Martin
A hypocrite are you retarded? You must be a faggot or a low iq gook monkey
We arent talking about animals or insects We are talking about innocent human babies not cockroaches eat a 12 gauge human rat
Elijah Cook
What would be the reason for the abortion Inconvenience? A human life for wah wah wah Raising a baby and having Children is the only reason you are alive. Its your biological need for existence. Why does sex feel good if its simply for pleasure and not reproduction.
Wyatt Young
so why killing insects is ok? you're taking their life taking a life is wrong, right?
Alexander Gonzalez
A incest is not a human life its not sentient it cant feel pain or think. If you were to ask me about an animal say a dog? Yes i think killing it would be immoral
Henry Wood
In the case of certain medical contexts, I would be inclined to disagree: >If risk to mother >If it transpires there is a condition that will impact quality of life >Selective reduction- multiple foetuses in womb and the abnormality of one threatens the others >Infection/other condition threatens the life of both mother and infant
Evan Kelly
Yes for medical reasons I believe it has to be done or say a women is raped
Simply because of inconvenience or laziness i do not believe it justifies abortion when you can just use safe sex or not have sex
Liam White
maybe it's human instinct to tell the person telling you what to do / how you should live your life / how you should feel / when you are allowed to talk, FUCK YOU. maybe abortions is just a fuck you to people like you. i don't know i'm not a female. You just need one wife to start a family, she can have the same values as you do, why does it matter to you so much if a women wants an abortion?
Blake Cook
Ohhh why should you care about the killings of babies around the world. You do know how stupid you sound. Fucking incompetent gimp
Aiden Hernandez
good, so if i understand this correctly: taking a life is wrong if something can feel pain or think but how do you know if something can feel pain or think? their reaction and behaviour? how do you know a fetus can feel pain or think
Lincoln Hall
perception is reality. are you religious? because if you are then you're enacting religious axioms into your argument, which is the same thing as saying >just cause! if you're not religious, you literally have no reason for caring. who the fuck are you to say how the world should be? you're a fucking worm dude, live your life and stop being so mad
Jackson Bennett
A fetus at 4 months can feel pain
A unborn baby will grow into a living human being. Argument is flawed and mentally retarded. Since you think abortion is a good thing. Maybe You should get a .44 magnum and abort yourself
Dylan Morris
>A fetus at 4 months can feel pain so it's okay to kill a fetus before that >A unborn baby will grow into a living human being so this is why abortion is wrong or? >Since you think abortion is a good thing i never said that please stop arguing emotionally, it only hinders you
Logan Adams
I bet you cry when you hear of an animal dying. Who am i to say women cant have abortions? Well they legally can Im just arguing that it is immoral and disgusting to take a innocent human life away. You all have proved to me that I am completely right. You have all failed Your argument comes down to oooo women can do what they want with their bodies Well guess what retard the innocent little baby that is growing inside of the women isn the womens body just inside of it Completely pathetic
Brayden Price
>Arent just a cluster of cells And you're right, because statistically speaking those cluster of cells grow up to be a criminal. So yes, please encourage and legalize abortion. It results in less dregs and bottom feeders in society.
Mason Rivera
I never said that lol You are justifying killing innocent babies and not giving them a chance at life. When just abstinence will completely stop the need for an abortion l
Robert Hall
>Ban abortion in all but extreme cases >Young upper to middle class educated women are still on birth control >The only people forced into having kids are the rare accidental pregnancy and people too stupid or short sighted (Black people and the white women who have sex with Black men) to use some sort of contraception. >Massive uptick in single moms and ghetto babies. user you're truly a genius
You're using a strawman when you bring up if insect lives matter. You brought it up to win an arguement, not prove a point.
Ethan Gomez
Saying abortion is wrong is literally the same as saying condoms are wrong
Mason White
Statistics have nothing to do with this argument fool. Just because someone makes mistakes in their lives doesnt been the should be killed. Ofc depends on the crime
Joshua Mitchell
No Its not you gimp, a baby is made when semen comes into contact with a egg The egg then fertilises and grows into a baby. Condoms stop semen from going into a vagina. Foolish point kill yourself
Aiden Perez
Libtard tranny strikes again with another dumb point and not forming a actual argument nice one autist
Julian Lopez
>is it moral Whether it is moral or not is contextual. In tangible physical reality, there is no universal law or universal set of morals or universal set of values. Your values determine your morals. However, your values are mostly always arbitrarily determined or determined by one's emotions/sense of empathy. Life has no inherent value, yet you still value it arbitrarily or because your emotions/sense of empathy tell you to do so. If you value life, you may balk at the idea of killing a baby. However, there are other values such as freedom and body autonomy. One can still value life, yet value the values of freedom and body autonomy more than life. So if one values those other values more than life, it can be said that it would be morally permissible to allow for women to get abortions. The right choice, the correct choice is dependent upon one's fundamental values.
Brandon Price
I think it's pretty obvious. If you adhere to a christian informed set of moral standards under which the taking of a life is immoral abortion is also clearly immoral. A fetus will continue to develop into a human being, the idea that its "just a clump of cells" is a reductive argument meant to obfuscate the full reality of the situation. "Just a clump of cells" would be a pool of blood after a person is injured or similar. A fetus is an greatly more complex structure which unlike a pool of blood posses the innate potential for conciousness. The crucial element here is that that potential is already actively being realized, unlike a singular gamete such as an sperm cell of an unfertilized egg it is no longer a latent potential which under certain circumstances with the addition of additional elements might be realized, or a braindead patient on life support who has no hope of recovery, but rather one that will inevitability be realized. As such concious or not abortion is the taking of a life. In cases were the pregnancy threatens the life of a mother one could argue that abortion is analogous to killing in self defense and therefore justifiable or in the presence of severe birth defects such as anencephaly where conciousness will never develop that its like the brain dead patient, but for purposes of simply not wanting the child for the fact it's difficult and they don't want to deal with raising it that's more akin to murdering for selfish material gain and is inexcusable under the moral standards most claim to operate by. This is all of course within the context that the taking of a life is wrong though, if the person in question were consistent in their morals and applied that same principles in other matters owning their selfishness I'd still personally have a problem emotionally based on my own morals but could accept it as a valid position, it's the hypocrisy and logical inconsistency that makes it all the more disgusting and so infuriating to me.