Why don't young men value commitment? Why are they clueless about what they want in a relationship?

Men will always want their dick wet.
This is one of the few constants for humanity in all its existence.

Why would I commit to you? What could you possibly offer? Will you cook? Clean? Have children and not kill them in the womb? Would you actually raise them properly instead of dumping them in a daycare to be neglected and rot? Will you actually stay married to me and not divorce me (and destroy my finances for the rest of my life) once it gets slightly old for you? For the average woman the answer to the majority of these questions is ,"No," and you aren't special.

Maybe the cow should give the the farmer who doesn't have much a chance, but she doesn't. She doesn't really want a farmer who tells her shes his favorite and treats her like she is, or she would settle for the lesser farmer who truly would. No, really what the cow wants is Chad McDonald, the handsome rich farmer with a 9 inch cattle prod

If that heifer would stop nagging the farmer about how she thinks he is sticking his fist in Bessie because she's too insecure to believe he's being faithful he wouldn't go to Bessie to begin with.

No, want the cow really wants is a big strong BVLL.

I value commitment, it's all the girls I'm meeting how aren't interested in committing

That's shit logic. Most people complain about cheating because someone actually cheated, then the nagging starts.

It sounds like you want a live in hooker/maid instead of a wife.

What* unoriginally

>wants someone to raise his children and care for his home while he works to support
>hurr sounds like u wan a hookermaid

>blaming his faithful moomer for making him cheat

Fuck off. Your plough game is shit anyway.

>It sounds like you want a live in hooker/maid instead of a wife.
A hooker, really? I didn't mention sex a single time in my post. Does having children make you a hooker? See, even your brains are so diseased that you can't conceive of a normal marital relationship in a healthy manner. You're basically subhumans at this point.

>tfw no faithful farmer bf to milk my udders

Maybe this cow would have better luck looking for a farmer who's not already drowning in milk.

why do women go around banging 50 guys before they choose to settle down? why do women lie and use passive aggressiveness all the time? why do more men commit suicide on average than women? dumb f*moid.

Yes, but at this point they're not thinking beyond that basic drive and m while wanting it to cost effectively nothing.

Maybe stop calling her a heifer then, jerk.

Speak for yourself. I'm committed to a life alone, so I'd say I value it pretty well.

He said he wants someone do the child rearing and housework for him like he plans on never doing the same thing or helping out. I hope user is loaded because good luck finding someone who will be a second hand mommy if you don't have the funds. Also, he said explicitly he will look down on her for sending a child to daycare. That means he will resent her for working if she has a job. He also said if they divorce she'll take his money like it's evil, but if he expects a woman to give up working so he can have the perfect trad wife then he needs to be okay with alimony to support her since she won't have her own savings to support herself. His entire post kind of shows he'd be a terrible partner.

it's more often the opposite. females 'need time', because they have some insecurities about either what they want or think they want.

>He said he wants someone do the child rearing and housework for him like he plans on never doing the same thing or helping out.
Did I say I would not help? I simply asked if you would do it. Clearly the answer is "No."
>I hope user is loaded because good luck finding someone who will be a second hand mommy if you don't have the funds.
Yeah, it's about money to you, I'm fully aware.
>Also, he said explicitly he will look down on her for sending a child to daycare.
Do you know what daycare is like? I have spoken to daycare workers and if you send your child to one you are sending them to be neglected. If you think they're getting the nurture and care that they need, you're getting sold a load of bullshit. Young children need to be at home with people who actually love them.
>That means he will resent her for working if she has a job.
If you're willing to sacrifice your children for your job, yes I'll resent you, and you'd deserve it.
>He also said if they divorce she'll take his money like it's evil, but if he expects a woman to give up working so he can have the perfect trad wife then he needs to be okay with alimony to support her since she won't have her own savings to support herself.
Ah, if only that were what alimony actually is. But that's not how this works is it?

You two should get married desu. I can sense the sexual tension here.

"need time"
Lmao more like she needs time to check if she can score a fool with better means than you.
If a chick ever tells you she "needs time" that means she feels absolutely nothing for you beyond what you can offer in terms of money or status.

He didn't say that, he asked if you would cook and clean. Simple as that. You're putting words into his mouth to suit your narrative. Never once did he say he would help with those tasks. He also asked if you'd actually raise the children or leave them to be neglected in a daycare. Why would he have to be okay with her taking half his money? The point is to stay together until you're old, not to get married so you can leave him and take half of his shit.

Two retards who don't know shit about how telling someone constantly they are doing something they aren't will inadvertently lead to them doing it

And one retard who doesn't understand analogies.

The roasties aren't sending their best.

>Why don't young men value commitment?
Because women aren't interested in men who value commitment. They only want Chads and he's drowning in easy women so why would he settle down?

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i did but it didn't matter. i would discourage any guy from being serious

When someone says that in regards to a romantic relationship, what they really mean is they want to keep their options open and hold out a little longer to see if anything better comes along.

Someone has to work, you know. Do you think men want to spend all of their time at work? If that's what women want to do you are literally insane.

I'm not clueless. In fact, I'm quite aware I'm only really interested in sex. My conscience, however, cannot make peace with that, so I avoid relationships in an attempt to avoid hurting someone who would probably grow to be fond of and emotionally attached to me while I'm unable to reciprocate.

>he doesnt know what sarcasm is because hes a massive fucking sperg

user, I...

Daycare helps children to socialize with other children and prepares them for the time when they will be left alone at school.

>Ah, if only that were what alimony actually is. But that's not how this works is it?
Alimony was created so housewives don't get dicked if there happens to be a divorce. If you want a stay at home mom for a wife you have to be okay with the idea that you will pay for it later if you divorce.

Your saying he thought he was going to be the one doing all of the cooking and cleaning himself without her contributing? How often is that the reality that the man becomes the one doing all of the domestic chores?

>Someone has to work, you know
Women work, user. It's not the 1940s. I was saying if he expects a woman to do all of the domestic things he should make damn sure he can back it up by having a high paying job. Most families cannot afford to have just one income so I think it's relevant to mention if he wants a stay at home wife that he needs to be willing to pay. Also would like to point out that most mothers work full time and do the majority of housework and child raising and they do not get a break when they get home from work.

Why do you even want commitment?
You say men are clueless so you must know.

>stands in the middle of a pissing match
>"Why you pee on me, bro?"

>Your saying he thought he was going to be the one doing all of the cooking and cleaning himself without her contributing? How often is that the reality that the man becomes the one doing all of the domestic chores?
How the fuck did you take that away from what I said? You're fucking retarded lmao

Would you like to explain it so I can understand. I don't get your point. You're mad that I assumed he wouldn't be doing the housework? He didn't say in his post "will you be doing chores and cooking with me?" or "will you sit on your ass while I do all of the housework?" He implied he wants a woman to do it all. He said in another post that isn't the case, but I still think it wasn't a huge leap to come to that conclusion based on the short text in the original post. So what exactly are you going on about?

Maybe because most women don't really work, they have Starbucks service jobs, secretary jobs or marketing, human resources jobs. Basically pointless meme titles where they sit with their coworkers and gossip all day.

>Daycare helps children to socialize with other children and prepares them for the time when they will be left alone at school.
No, socializing them with other children helps. Arrange for them to go play with other kids, it's not hard. You honestly have no clue what daycare is actually like. Really, you don't. If you can, try to find a daycare worker (maybe a relative works there) and get them to explain to you what it's actually like. Let me be clear -- no one there gives a single fuck about the well-being of your child. They're basically being cared for by randoms pulled off the street who work for around minimum wage. Would you be fine letting your child be taken care of all day by random fast food workers? Because that's what happening. Nowadays they require certification programs, but businesses just pay under-the-table for the state employees to forge the paperwork. No one actually does any of that shit.

NTA but alimony came to be because women and society realized it wasnt fair that wives were birthing and raising a mans kids for 18 years only to get cheated on and left when they were on the wrong side of 35. Its compensation. If men were more faithful alimony wouldnt even be a thing so men only have themselves to blame.

Why don't you go back and reread what I typed until it registers in that tiny brain of yours. Are you blonde by any chance?

Those are real job you dumb faggot. Service jobs fucking suck and you have customers screaming at you all day and you constantly bust your ass. Work is work, men don't do have special jobs that are harder than women. Men also work at starbucks, condescending ass.

So you can't explain your point? Why don't you just break it down for me because I'm so stupid I don't get it. I don't mind waiting.

Men 100% dominate in terms of working dangerous jobs. Search up the worlds most dangerous jobs and then search what percentage of those jobs are being worked by men. Men also hold most governing jobs where they're put into stressful situations. The only reason women occasionally appear in power roles today is due to diversity culture. These women also really do nothing but act as an industry plant, a role figure.

i just used the sentence as example. and don't had those expieriences. lucky.

I used to volunteer at a daycare. It sucks. I know. It doesn't change that socialization in a large group setting is beneficial at that age. Playdates are better but a lot of people don't do that for their children. A lot of daycares will let you sit in for a day to see how they run things, there are good places that exist. You just have to weed out the shitty ones.

If you don't want to work a job that's high stress or dangerous don't do it. You can get an easy woman job yourself if you think it's so unfair. No one is forcing you or anyone else into those high risk jobs.

You sound rude and mean and bad husbando material. 0/10 not a gentleman. An ineligible bachelor.

You are an embodiment of everything wrong with this society.

You stated that he said he wanted someone to cook and clean for him while he does nothing. This wasn't true, you were putting words into his mouth to suit your narrative. I already fucking said this.
Somehow you took me correcting you and processed it as me saying HE would be the one doing all the housework. I don't know how you did this. You're still confused about it and you clearly have no idea what's going on.

Women are the ones who dont want commitment because they want to rise every cock they can.

Some women are just so selfish and egocentric they believe no man is worthy of them so they just use their beauty for their own benefits.

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>Women work, user. It's not the 1940s.
Men don't commit. It's not the 1940s. Enjoy your cats.

These jobs need to be worked to keep society functioning. This jobs need to be worked so you can talk shit about the men who work these jobs on your phone all day. Someone needs to build the infrastructure and continue our technological advances. Women can't do it, only men can and thus we have to.

if they would know what they want they wouldn't have to keep 'options' available, because it would be *the* best choice.

nice meme but women initiate 80% of divorces. women have the commitment problem.

There is nothing wrong with women having financial independence. It saves them from falling into the clutches of creepy controlling men like (you). And bingo, thats exactly why you hate it. Along with some weird paranoia that daycare workers are going to molest or abuse your kid. Just cut out the middleman and dont breed at all. You would be doing the world a favor.

>women initiate 80% of divorces

Because men cheat, duh. Imagine being a cuck.

Sorry, you can't have your cake and eat it too. If you want to be independent, that's what you'll be -- alone.

I already admitted that I (incorrectly) assumed he meant he intended his wife to do everything at home.

Because there is absolutely ZERO reason for a young man to commit.
The (long-term) dating prospects of a penniless young man are fucking abysmal. The few young women who don't want to dedicate themselves to sleeping around and furthering their careers, are much more impressed by successful men in their thirties and forties.

So if that's the name of the game, we have no choice but to play it. At least when i'm 40, my chances will be a lot better than women the same age. Thanks feminism.

so females don't cheat? sure.

>young men value commitment
>clueless about what they want in a relationship

you forgot to mention that hypergamy among women is a thing or you are probably clueless about it.

not my fault women only like bad boys. what else did you expect from them?

Okay so you know you were wrong an retarded. What's the confusion then, retard? You get it now?

>H-HAH! N-NOW YOU CANT GET WITH ALL THIS! Y-YOUR LOSS, R-ROASTIES!

Its funny cuz it sounds like you are trying to sell something, but aint nobody buying :/

user stop being such an irrational brainlet.

This is a thread complaining about why men won't commit, you know? If women are fine with this situation, good for them.

user quit seething because you're retarded

Ever since kindergarten I've wanted to get married
That never changed, it's still my life goal
Is kindergarten too old to be a young man?