When did you take the blackpill and realize looks are the single most important element in attraction, and that physical attraction cannot be replaced with money or status? When did you realize "the red pill" was a giant cope for unattractive men?
>"B...But look at this picture of an ugly guy with a girl!" No. >"But rich guys get girls, right?" Yes. >"Wealth and power are attractive to women!" Yes. That doesn't mean the man who possesses them is regarded as attractive, he's simply a means to an end. She's still physically repulsed by him. >"But I can live without that, muh engineering degree!" No. No amount of money, especially upper middle class professional money (chump change in the grand scheme) will compensate for the fact a 6'4 sociopathic, low inhib, god-tier bone structure sociopathic criminal who is also homeless could steal your girl.
If looks are everything then sell your car and get plastic surgery. No more virgin males.
Adrian Martin
>When did you take the blackpill and realize looks are the single most important element in attraction
Unironically when I started looking at the psych/sociobiological/neuroscientific research around attraction. It more or less confirms looks theory 100%.
Lincoln Campbell
people who argue against how much looks matter are just completely delusional to me. it must scare them or something because it's so fucking obvious
Adrian Hall
looks do fucking matter, but status as well. Many beta attractive guys. Girls liking shy cute guys is a fucking meme.
Justin Gomez
suck a fucking cock nigger. go back to reddick.
Sebastian Brooks
you're ugly and your personality can't make up for anything. go cry about it
Lincoln Ross
>but status as well.
1. Status is essentially intimately linked to your looks. 2. Outside status, like professional career, is less important than you think. I work in software development and there are tons of guys here on 6 figures who get mogged by good looking guys in admin positions, in finance, in sales, in marketing within our company etc, despite those guys earning less. 3. If you're talking about super high status guys like world leaders, then yeah. But that's either not attainable for the average person, or it's overblown. Kissinger's "women love money and power" thing was a cope to end all copes.
Oliver Rogers
i'm cute and get no girls fucknig faggot.
Juan Long
>If you're talking about super high status guys like world leaders, then yeah. But that's either not attainable for the average person, or it's overblown. Kissinger's "women love money and power" thing was a cope to end all copes.
just be genghis khan bro
Eli Ortiz
Why does looks theory attract so many angry copers? Even just be white theory doesn't attract so much rage.
Gavin Diaz
they forgot cold showers in the redpill
Ryan Murphy
The science actually says money is the most important for attraction and stability. But looks are nice for hooking up with a cute waitress while the wife is with the kids
Justin Watson
>akshually, the SCIENCE Hi r3ddit. No it doesn't.
Parker Perez
To those of you who accept blackpill/looks theory. To what degree is looksmaxxing possible without plastic surgery? What sort of marginal gains can you make with it? Can you go from a 5 to a 7? Or is it more like going from a 5 to a 5.5?
Hudson Jenkins
So you're telling me it's over?
Eli Diaz
Totally agree with this. Why are people still in denial about how important your physical appearance is? You have to have good hygiene, not be fat and wear nice clothing.
You'll be surprised to learn that I get treated poorly on days when I look like shit but I get so many people trying to talk to me and smile at me when I am looking extra sharp. It's a clown world full of clown people. What can you do.
Elijah Davis
The real blackpill is getting old. How can a 45 year old man look handsome or hot? Only celebrities get that luxury.
Caleb Watson
My 56 year old father does. Perfect teeth, good physical condition, almost no receding hairline, his skin isn't spotless though. It's absolutely possible if you take good care of your health, which he does. Unfortunately it has become really hard, when we look at the garbage we consider food that we eat before going to sit 8 hours in a cubicle
Owen Morales
plastic surgery is retarded unless you are at this level of deformed. if your chin and jaw is a little shitty it just doesn't seem worth it the money or time. the only plastic surgery that is worth considering is a nose job. everything else isn't even worth considering. the truth is no matter what you do, even if you do all this and get attention from women all you are going to think about is how superficial they are. i don't know how to deal with this entire subject other than just trying to ignore it as best you can.
>You have to have good hygiene, not be fat and wear nice clothing. You need far more than that: good bone structure, forward maxila, hunter eyes/good eye area, healthy skin etc. Most of this is genetic.
Agepill is 100% real for men. One of the true tests of whether you're a real black pilled aficionado or a red pill copemaster is whether or not you accept that the agepill is real for men.
It never even began.
Carson Cox
Thats the point though. If you believe in looks theory you have to reject actual research, because research and science and math is done by jews.
Samuel Smith
>Agepill is 100% real for men. One of the true tests of whether you're a real black pilled aficionado or a red pill copemaster is whether or not you accept that the agepill is real for men.
Can confirm, for 95% of men the moment you hit 30 most teens and early 20-somethings aren't into you. You'll notice your matches on OLD going down with them, less responsiveness from them in a social context etc. Even the statistics confirm this. They literally say the vast majority of women prefer a man a few years older than them. Operative words "a few", so for 21 year old women it's 23-25 for example.
Grayson White
95% of men in Korea get plastic surgery and none of them stay virgins
Colton Wright
You're talking about about washed up roasties who've ridden their share of cock carousal and are looking to latch onto stability in order to live out the rest of their lives in easy mode. Money and status matters only at the end of your 20s, before that it's purely your looks that are the primary gauge of attraction to a woman, atleast the ones who aren't mentally fucked in some way or the other.
Logan Hall
i'm 32 and matched with a decent amount of 20 year olds. i don't really look my age though, i look like i'm in my mid 20s. it's rare but some girls do have that age gap kink
Luke Price
>hes never been on a yacht party full of the hottest college girls Nah man. That pretty boy stoner still fucks, but hes got the short end of the stick. Money is the number one by far, theres no debate
Matthew Moore
>Money and status matters only at the end of your 20s
Again, they don't matter at all in terms of PHYSICAL attraction. This has been confirmed time and time again. The women are attracted to the sense of security, they feel no lust towards you.
1. You're lucky to look younger. 2. I agree on the age gap kink, but despite there being a lot of girls with daddy issues, Yas Forums overblows it. Most 21 year old girls want nothing to do with the average 32 year old guy, career or no career.
Colton Hernandez
Plastic surgery uses you original face as a base. It's an enhancement, not a transformation. I doubt there's any ugly out there who suddenly turned into Chad after a surgery.
If you're born ugly best way to go about is ignorance and acceptance. Otherwise you'll be mentally fucked and an hero before 30.
I'm thinking of calling this rhetorical flourish "the STEMcope". Thoughts robots?
Samuel Long
>2. I agree on the age gap kink, but despite there being a lot of girls with daddy issues, Yas Forums overblows it. Most 21 year old girls want nothing to do with the average 32 year old guy, career or no career.
yea its rare, probably like 1/500 tbqh. i matched with one girl that looked like the girl kelly that gets posted on here once. didn't go anywhere but yea it was obvious she had a thing for the age gap daddy thing
Brody Morgan
JBW theory is cope.
I am a 28 yo, 165cm incel with blond hair and blue eyes. Above average face too. 60k income.
I have to travel to 3rd world shitholes to fuck ugly prostitutes.
No amount of JBW makes up for being an introverted manlet.
Liam Foster
It's what I meant. All I'm saying is women will latch onto men who are better off when they near their thirties, that's all. This is probably the reason why a major complain amongst older maried couples is the wife not wanting sex, because she was never sexually attracted to the man in the first place.
Thomas Edwards
Have you never seen how plastic surgery can transform a face? Even a beard can turn a 2/10 into 9/10
Oliver Perez
>yea its rare
At least you accept it, I've matched with girls like that before, but what annoys me is when copers come in with anecdotal experiences and pretend this invalidates normative everyday preferences, biology and life.
JBW is cope, as are all racial theories. Good looking men of all races are successful slayers. However, you can leverage whiteness to some degree in East Asia (and elsewhere) and you'll stand a far higher chance of landing a white girlfriend. This is basically what most deathnic incels bitch about.
Brody Lopez
Robots dont have sex so maybe you right nigga
Joseph Bailey
Divorce rates are at an all time high because people like you believe the "money is all there is" theory. In this age there's plenty of guys to go around for even a moderate looking women. Even if they are married, the moment she finds a better looking dude who's receptive to her advancements and is slightly stable financially, she'll jump off your wagon. It's the truth of the matter.
Carson Lewis
It's stemcope or asiancope. "When I get my engineering job I'm going to get girls" is a cope, plain and simple. Always has been.
Aaron Peterson
if you have ugly shitty eyes, you can't do anything about it. eyes are one of the most important aspects of your face. just think about a girl that wasn't that good looking but you didn't care because she beautiful eyes. that matters for men to
Adrian Moore
Beards are always attractive, less so than stubble, because they give off the impression of a strong jawline, which isn't fair. And of all the pics I've seen regarding the before and after surgery photos of men, the original faces were still not ugly, just mediocre to decent with some outlandish features that needed fixing.
Hudson Clark
Divorce rates for educated adults is 14%. I can respect when a guy cheats on his aging wife with a cute college blonde, but divorce is literally only high among 60 year olds and poor black people
Carter Walker
>Just conquer the entire known world bro
Are you an arabcel?
Jonathan Gomez
Eye lift is extremely cheap
Leo Garcia
Should you get a hair transplant if you are norwood'ing?
Aaron Bennett
You're probably factoring in 3rd world countries where divorce is highly frowned upon. In America the probability of a lifelong marriage ending in divorce for ages 30-50 is about 40 percent
Nope. Divorce in the US maxes out at 17% for educated adults.
Jeremiah Ramirez
m8s, how is it possible to be incel in KSA? What the fuck!
Lincoln Hall
100% agree That's why lookmaxxing is the only way to deal with inceldom By the way incel real definition is: any man who can NOT get sex for a period of over 6 months. Incel is not necessary a virgin, and another thing fucking hoes does NOT erases incel status.
Fucking women is essential is a primal need for a healthy man, it gives confidence, self esteem, productivity, good mental health, happiness, etc. Life without fucking beautiful girls or at least decent looking girls for a healthy man is equal to misery, depression and mental illness.
So sell your gaming pc whatever shit you have, your car, your tv, work your ass off and get that plastic magic ASAP, plus gym, designer clothes, status phone watch... etc, stop being a lazyfag lookmaxxing starts NOW!
Wyatt Rivera
yes, you remain an incel until your mother arranges a marriage for you. wedding expenses and dowries are fucking insane here.
Matthew Brooks
>tfw it feels good to sleep with random girls at the bar who work out and try to look beautiful
Are some people finding it hard to fund them these days?
How much is the society changing?
Jose Anderson
Its funny, most Arab guys do not fit the lookismpill criteria (most have bug eyes, small or recessed chins, narrow faces) yet they still fuck tons of women and attractive white roasties cant stay away from them.
Could it be that a masculine identity and having a pair of intact balls is actually far, FAR more attractive to women than any forward maxilla bullshit? Seems like it.
Wyatt Butler
>attractive white roasties cant stay away from them.
Not really true here with our nafris.
Aaron Stewart
Here's what I need to do to looksmax, keep in mind I'm ugly to start,
>skin needling treatment for scars >braces >jaw surgery >build muscle >get rid of social anxiety, take speaking classes
it's not a big list, but by the time I go through all of this I'll probably near or into my 40s (just setting up with a orthodonist surgeon can take a few years), it's likely over by then. just polishing a turd.
