Noooo not the heckin flufferinooos!!!!! not the borkin pupperinos!!!!!!!! noooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!

Why are only edgy teenagers hate pets? Why are you so annoying?

>Pigs have the same intelligence as a dog
wrong. pigs are actually more intelligent than dogs

i hate fucking retards who love dogs but laugh at the suffering of pigs and cows. these overweight retards have a big booboo cryfest when their pupperino dogger dies, but eat bacon and sausages for every breakfast. endless delusion

and they actually are delusional, and they hate on vegans because vegans bring them cognitive dissonance, so they take out their uncomfortable feelings by insulting vegans, as they cant appeal to logical arguments

bbc.com/future/article/20200203-the-hidden-biases-that-drive-anti-vegan-hatred

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i would cry if my human friend died but i wouldnt give two shits about someone i dont know.

I really want to try dog.

Well OP-ie. People eat snakes, tortoises. They also keep em as pets. Some people keep dogs as pets and some people eat em.

I think it's all fair game but it surely feels awful to kill a living being, especially if you are attached to it. Thing is that life should be respected and loved. People in general just have become desensitized to mechanized growth and slaughter of cattle. It's pretty wild to see that well oiled machine of just fucking and killing. Then people discard some of the product. I think humans will eventually pay for these actions if they do not cease.

Probably now we are paying with corona.

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youtube.com/watch?v=YPdJroY0gwM
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braindead normies have the same emotional reaction to wild animals they like; such as elephants, rhynos, lions, leopands, bears, etc

they constantly criticize trophy hunters for killing these "POOR MAJESTIC ANIMALS HUEE", yet they eat pork, steak and fried chicken every day. all of these animals suffer just as deeply, all of them want to live, yet the massive retard hordes only arbitrarily care for some animals and not others. the same thing with harambe the gorilla. obese meat eating morons cry about le poor monke but laugh at pigs screaming in gas chambers

literally most people are like this. i was listening to the h3h3 podcast, and in one episode they got so morally outraged that a girl slapped and spat on her dog. they went into a long rant about how evil and cruel she is, how its morally reprehensible, etc etc. and the guy talking, ethan, is a morbidly obese hammie. he LITERALLY pays for pigs cows and chickens to be enslaved and killed, yet gets morally outraged when a dog is spat on. making logical sense of the world is not a priority for normies, they just delude themselves on anything that makes them feel uncomfortable

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To me this is completely normal. Everywhere anything eats meat. Something had to die.

How are vegans this retarded lmao.
It's very easy. We judge animals same as humans, purely based on looks. If the animal looks cute or beautiful we don't kill it, but cows/pigs/chickens are tragically ugly, so who gives a fuck.
Youd treat ugly people like shit and wonder why people would apply the same logic to animals.

>it's very easy. We judge animals same as humans, purely based on looks
>Youd treat ugly people like shit and wonder why people would apply the same logic to animals.

but we literally dont, you fucking inbred mouthbreather. we give all people human rights, the right to be free from exploitation, slavery and murder. we give people free speech and protect them at all costs. we give household animals like dogs and cats rights. its literally illegal to kill and eat dogs and cats in the western world

but not for farm animals. fucking retard. all humans have rights protecting them, regardless of how physically repulsive they are. niggers have been emancipated from slavery, and they arent exactly pleasing to the eye. and neither are most people, but they still have rights. you fucking RETARD. god ur stupid

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This is why I went vegan, I realized I was a hypocrite.
>inb4 beta
Since everyone hates veganism, that means I'm alpha for choosing the lifestyle everyone hates

You can't deny that we haven't evolved from eating meat though, it's basically part of our design.

Dogs and chicken are not the same animal, retard.

>You can't deny that we haven't evolved from eating meat though

we also evolved from genocide and rape. literally 99.999% of all humans are related to rapists, and throughout most of human history, all we did was genocide eachother and the winning team would rape all the women and kill all the men

does that make genocide and rape morally acceptable, because its part of our evolutionary history?

fucking moron

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Vegans sure do like to talk about rape. Obvious sign of mental degradation. Sad!

the duality of man

skrrt skrrt

>we also evolved from genocide and rape.

Wrong. Anatomically modern humans, the ones you are accusing of genocide and rape, did not actually "evolve" from doing these things. Not in the same way eating cooked meat evolved shorter digestive tracks and smaller molars (because it was easier to chew), which increased the size of our brains. You can not point to a single physiological evolution in the body that exists because we "genocide and raped". We did not evolve from those acts and you are foolish to think so. Clearly, you don't understand the concept of evolution.

>dont have any arguements left
>resort to adhoms and dodging

and you call me sad?

not to mention, you're the one PAYING for these animals to be raped and killed. im just talking about it, you're the one paying for it to happen, you fucking hypocritical faggot

youtube.com/watch?v=UcN7SGGoCNI

>You can not point to a single physiological evolution in the body that exists because we "genocide and raped"

??????

ever since we were monkeys, we were raping and killing. IMAGINE being so disingenuous to deny this. theres a huge genetic and evolutionary incentive to rape; you spread your genes

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So you can't point to a single physiological change in the body that exists because of genocide or rape. Thanks for confirming it. You also conflated "monkeys" and homo-sapiens. "We" were not monkeys. There were monkeys, and then there were us.

>IMAGINE being so disingenuous to deny this.
Imagine being so delusional to think I even denied this. I never denied such a thing, nor did I condone it or say it was right.

>theres a huge genetic and evolutionary incentive to rape; you spread your genes

Once again, wrong. Early humans existed in tribes and had to restrain and modify their behavior for living in groups to be worthwhile. If you think that an attempt to rape the women in your tribe is a successful reproduction strategy that A. wouldn't be thwarted and B. Not get you banished and killed, all that you've revealed is that you know very little about human history. Are you also forgetting that the emergence of morality may have actually occurred because of human evolution, or have you never actually considered such a thing? People don't actually *like* the killing of other people or similarly reprehensible behavior, and from a standpoint of evolutionary psychology it's brain-dead simple reasoning as to why.

We evolved away from raping, just like we did from being plant eating faggots.

>57099617
>Raped, tortured and murdered

I prefer the term castrated and slaughtered, which is pretty fucking standard for livestock. Do you think you're gonna change the masses with your overflowing charisma?

Also, if people have a fucking problem with it, they can be a Jew and eat Kosher meat.

>equating raising and killing an animal solely for sustenance to sick autists deriving sadistic pleasure from torturing animals

I wouldn't be ok if someone tortured a pig either, there's using animals and there's abusing animals

>talks about delusions
>vegans avoid eating animal products and wearing clothing made from animal products
>they don't mind using medicine that's been tested on countless animals
>will still bitch about laboratory use of animals though

eat shit honestly

being intelligent doesn't make you better, pigs are like jews, more intelligent but also disgusting faggots.

veganism is about reducing animal suffering as much as reasonably possible. theres a difference between using medical products that will save your life and eating a double bacon cheeseburger because you're an obese gluttonous shitstain

hows life like with a double digit iq?

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>>noooo not the heckin flufferinooos!!!!! not the borkin pupperinos!!!!!!!! noooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!
>>consumes the flesh and products of raped, tortured and murdered animals
>are normalfaggots really this retarded?
is op really this retarded?

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I have 0 issue with eating dogs as adorable as they are, as long as they are ethnically put down. And also wtf do you mean by raped? The entire world isnt fucking china, faggot

>hows life like with a double digit iq?
I am on the genius spectrum. only midwits are actually vegan, us high IQ people understand that it's necessary to sacrifice animals to gods.

Basically they're impregnated artificially, and made to be pregnant constantly for a steady supply of animal products.

It's why there's a sustainability tax being implanted, there has to be a new animal to replace the old one they cant produce food constantly like a apple tree does

>inb4 hur hurr you're vegan

>Basically they're impregnated artificially, and made to be pregnant constantly for a steady supply of animal products.
sounds hot

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>only midwits are actually vegan
are you sure about that?

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Show me one example of a pig protecting Its human owner and I will never eat pork again.

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you prove my point, retard. do you not know what a midwit is?
he can't, pigs are scum and eat their own kids, even wild boars.

But he claims pigs and dogs are equals.
Surely there must be thousands of cases where pigs have saved a human.

Dogs have been adopted as human pets for thousand of years, while pigs have been treated as shit through torture and murder. Why the fuck would pigs want to serve humans even though they haven't been given the chance ever? Why does everything have to be at the service of human beings? This is why humans need to go extinct. Fucking omnivores.

Its in their best interests to serve us, we might stop eating them then.

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Fine, ill still eat beef though.

>veganism is about reducing animal suffering as much as reasonably possible. theres a difference between using medical products that will save your life and eating a double bacon cheeseburger because you're an obese gluttonous shitstain

t. retard that never had any contact with actual vegan activists. I know colleagues whose spouses with their children were attacked in an ambush outside the children's elementary school, because he was experimenting on primates (researching neuronal patchways that don't exist in other animals). These are the people who push veganism, and as long as casual vegans don't speak out against these retards they're complicit in my book.

Based reasonable anti vegan

>Implying that if pigs somehow evolved and dominated earth they wouldn't treat humans like we treat pigs.

We dominated the planet, we do whatever the fuck we want.
Not enough people care to stop "pointless suffering, torture and rape" ... of fucking farm animals
They aren't that diffrent than potatoes.
we grow em, harvest em, eat em, breed em to repeat the cycle.
They are born, they grow and they die. Not much more than that.
Hell, most thankfully doesn't care. I find my morning coffe way more important than all the suffering of all farm animals ever. Why would I?
Curel? oh no... it's like... the entire world around us! Haven't you noticed between the bites of your vegan burger that life is full of injustice, pain, cruelty and suffering, mainly for the pleasure of others?

Adapt or pointlessly struggle and waddle in your shit forever.

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Suffering of pigs is irrelevant. They are food

These high school sophomores think not having empathy makes them look cool, kek

>and as long as casual vegans don't speak out against these retards they're complicit in my book.

well, those people arent me, so i dont think its reasonable to blame me for their actions. there are many criminal who commit all sorts of crimes, and just because i dont speak about them doesnt mean i condone or condemn their actions

not to mention, if we were keeping humans as slaves to do scientific research on, faggots like you would laud these people as heros who fight for human justice, yet if its a monkey you paint them as terrorists. whats the difference between a monkey and a human that makes it okay to enslave and experiment on one, but not the other, you fucking ape?

not to mention, i think just casually talking to people about this subject is one of the best ways to spread veganism, because it illuminates the truth and is relatively effective

>Suffering of pigs is irrelevant

is the suffering of humans or dogs irrelevant? if its not irrelevant, whats the difference between humans and pigs that makes one's suffering irrelevant, but not the others?

>Implying that if pigs somehow evolved and dominated earth they wouldn't treat humans like we treat pigs.
>they might hurt us if they had power, so its okay to hurt them when we have power

this is a 2-wrongs-make-a-right logical fallacy, you FUCKING RETARD. god ur stupid

>They aren't that diffrent than potatoes.
animals in farms are sentient, conscious, experience a wide range of emotions and can suffer deeply, and dont want to die

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>equating raising and killing an animal solely for sustenance to sick autists deriving sadistic pleasure from torturing animals

but your breeding, enslaving, raping, castrating, and killing this animal for your taste pleasure. its not sustenance, its for sensory pleasure. you can survive perfectly fine on a diet devoid of all animal products. you dont NEED animal products, you just eat it because its yummy. meaning you kill for sensory taste pleasure

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>whats the difference between a monkey and a human that makes it okay to enslave and experiment on one, but not the other, you fucking ape?

Because one is a person with self-consciousness and advanced cognition, and the other is a shit flinging monkey you psychopath

>monkeys dont have self-conciousness and advanced cognition

his is scientifically inaccurate, you scientifically illiterate shit for brains. all mammals are conscience and sentient and experience the same range of emotions humans experience, such as fear, pain, envy, pride, joy, love, sadness and greed. god ur fucking stupid

youtube.com/watch?v=9WW8JdCLngI
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_consciousness
fcmconference.org/img/CambridgeDeclarationOnConsciousness.pdf
psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/animal-emotions/201711/cows-science-shows-theyre-bright-and-emotional-individuals
theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/jul/07/cows-best-friends
peta.org/issues/animals-used-for-food/factory-farming/cows/hidden-lives-cows/
news.nationalgeographic.com/2015/07/150714-animal-dog-thinking-feelings-brain-science/
sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/04/150428081801.htm
livescience.com/39481-time-to-declare-animal-sentience.html
theconversation.com/heres-what-the-science-says-about-animal-sentience-88047

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Not everyone can afford the sea of supplements you need in order to make a vegan diet viable. The vegan whole protein sources like quinoa are expensive as fuck where i live, and i'd also need a ton of micro nutrient supplements as well. won't even mention how economically infeasible for someone living in poverty this would be. So advocating for 1st world veganism is literally feel-good wishful thinking, when the practice can't really be globally followed at the current time

I'm a liberal neurobiologist you absolute retard. You think a monkey has levels of cognition anywhere near a human? Because some monkeys can use sticks and saws? Are you fucking retarded or what?

>equates jews to cows
wew

>they might hurt us if they had power, so its okay to hurt them when we have power
>this is a 2-wrongs-make-a-right logical fallacy, you FUCKING RETARD. god ur stupid

Are you autistic? It's not a justification for killing pigs or any farm animals, it's what dominant species do. We needed animals to evolve and push technology further, we got used to farming and eating them.
It's thousands of years of culture now, good luck changing that. It's a change as big if not bigger than banning slavery.
Although it may be possible to completely stop or significantly minimise the slaughter and death of farm animals, most people don't want to and more importantly it would be expensive, ineffective and would require a insane investment. Not to mention big food corporations wouldn't ever allow it.

>They aren't that diffrent than potatoes.
animals in farms are sentient, conscious, experience a wide range of emotions and can suffer deeply, and dont want to die

Of course they are you retard, is your protein deprived brain incapable of processing that i said that because they are treated as such? Somewhere in a big building they are born, they grow and they are killed for their meat. But once again, people don't care. It's hidden from view, nicely processed and ends up on shelves.

Only a small fraction of population, the low IQ extremists such as you, care or pretends to care, so they can fulfil their mental needs. If you really wanted to make a change you'd realise you need a fuckton of money and control not charisma on a random imageboard.

You don't want animals suffering to end, you want to push your "end animal suffering" ideology and if it somehow it ends up reaching one of it's goals you'd be okay with that.

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The meat industry is cruel, but veganism is shit. And there's a difference between a dog, a creature that will literally give its life to protect you and your loved ones, and cattle. Dogs have been our hunting partners for a very long time and we have developed a natural bond with them.

shut the fuck up you retard i'll eat whatever tf i want to, quit trying to dictate other people's lives you dumb faggot

oh my god please quit whining you fucking stupid moralfag idiot. morals are a spook, veganism is gay, go kill yourself you faggot