/fraud/ Steroids General

If you inject 1g test one time, you'll be Jay Cutler overnight edition.

Before asking your stupid beginner questions (yes, they are stupid, they've been asked a thousand times before), make sure to read ALL OF the r/steroids wiki:
reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/index

>Reddit link
yeah, fuck off m8

Don't ask us to help you dose your AI. It's very individual. Or see CCFC's handy faggotry guide.

Oral-only cycles put strain on the liver and cause a shutdown of natural testosterone production for not a lot of benefit. Just pin and thank us later.

ABSOLUTELY no source talk. Just fucking google it, you stupid cunts.

This isn't a medical forum. Stop asking for medical advice and go to a doctor.

No one gives a shit about your SARMs. Our sources have solid data on SERMs and the like. If you still wanna talk about them start your own thread.

If you're going to ask a beginner question, make sure to include:
- age
- bf%
- penile girth
- time spent training

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I came off cold turkey after 2 years of blasting and cruising (never less than 250mg test), I suggest you all do the same.

what made you start and what made you quit?

How many gains do you keep?

No, but you'll be a fraud forever since the myonuclei you gain are permanent.

Started roiding 8 years ago to look better, stopped because I lost motivation due to a new job then right after coronavirus came along and killed all the gyms. I'm also appyling for a security clearance where they test for roids so I cant use rn anyway.

No idea on strength, gained fat and lost muscle though, been drinking and eating like shit however.

Natty here, can you guys comment on how gear has personally changed you mentally? Like what were the first mental changes you experienced? Does it feel like being high on coke? How can you explain the feeling of being extremely high test?

>high test
No changes whatsoever, only depressed when estrogen gets too high or too low

>tren
paranoid, deluional, anxious, can't sleep, angry and short tempered, all these at some point.

>dbol
Horny as fuck but mostly same as test

>superdrol
no effect

>mast
horny as fuck, mitigates tren side effects

i have 40yo coworker.
He is fit, has nice physique, although he isnt super strong but he is lifetime natty.
He says he is at his genetic limit altough i find it hard to believe, when i look at his strength numbers (yeah i know neuromuscular adaptations yadda yadda)

He said he will start TRT now 12 week cycle, low doses of test and some other shit he named. Mostly for quality of life, not to be leave humanity behind.
This is reasonable right.
But he also said hes gonna begin it while not lifting due to quarantine, which sounds dumb to me.

Is that wasted cycle?

where you located? UK doesnt...

UK..

Hows the dating market boys? Been hearing good things to come out of tinder/bumble, I'm not a user so I wouldn't know. But I do know the price of pussy is directly correlated to the stock market. How are yall doing with the Biddies?

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why is the basic first cycle always 500mg test? wouldnt it be better to dose your test based on your heright and how much you weight?

a dyel manlet obv needs less gainz to build muscle than a 6`3 brad shoulder alpha chad

>tinder
thots, single mothers, girls who live in poverty, average 18-19 year olds who are naive

>bumble
higher class girls, better looking, crazed feminists

Not everyone responds to test the same way. A good measure of the ratio of how you respond to test is show in blood tests. For example, I took 600mg test e, my blood test shows my total testosterone is 3800 ng/dL. Take this whole figure, 3800 and divide it by 600, without units and that will be my ratio. Which is about 6.33. Most people response ratio is around 6 on average but some are much less. You also have to account for BUNK gear, or underdose/overdosed shit from your supplier. It's not exactly scientific but it's a good tool to see how your body responds.

imagine ruining your body to look disgusting lmfao

Its words like that is why you fail

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Security clearance from DOD?

Why do you suggest we all do it? Also how old are you and what proof do you have? Seems like a good way to have perma shut down

How big can I get on 250mg of test a week?

Has anyone ever used raloxifene / nolvadex / letro to remove minor casss of gyno? I’ve seen studies with promising results but I’ve been using Rakoxifene for like a month with no noticeable improvement. Not sure if it’s the compound, source (southern sarms), or just length. Most studies were 12-16 weeks IIRC

i've been cruising since jan, now the gyms are closed until the boomers are comfortable with my poverty. should i just pct or what?

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bigger than you are now

Way bigger than you think. You’ll probably gain 20 pounds depending on how much you eat. It’s going to be a lot of water though.

More horny while on test, less horny for a while after coming off (with PCT and HCG), but literally nothing other than that.
Noticed zero mental changes while on turinabol, anavar, DHB or boldenone either.
Dont do steroids for mental gains, they dont exist and in case of tren it would even be negative.

MOD

Test made me have a more relaxed not give a fuck attitude, also slightly more aggressive

>raloxifene / nolvadex / letro

you dont seem to understand what these are user.

testosterone itself doesnt do anything. its getting big and shredded that changes you mentally.
Apart from that, yes it feels like you are high. You are fucking happy, you feel like being productive, you act more confident, you feel like going out more. You talk louder.
Again, this is PURELY from being jacked. If you are dyel and on a gram of test you will not feel anything. And if you think you do its just a weak placebo effect.

They are selective estrogen receptor modulators and in clinical settings

does mast or dbol make you hornier.
i know both are androgenic as fuck but i thought the high E2 from dbol will mitigate its androgen-induced increase in libido

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yeah, and you think they will magically remove your gyno for you ?

Yes absolutely a waste. Also 12 weeks of TRT wont result in any significant gains especially when not working out unless hes doing like 200mg a week which is like 4 times physiological levels for most people and not real TRT.

only reason it might be worth to try would be if he was actually low test, which at 40 is still very unlikely.

And in clinical settings they’ve had positive impact on the reduction of gyno *

I should clarify.
What would result in more muscle being built.
250 Test E week for 24 weeks
500 Test E week for 12 weeks
Everything else being equal.

the difference in height to justify a significant increase in your test dosage is not given in the real world. Being 5 inches taller doesnt mean you need 300mg more test. Maybe you need 50mg, you delusional lanklet.

if you run it for a long time, pretty big. I'd say 6 months of 250mg makes you bigger than 500mg for 3 months.
Dont bother with 250mg if you do anything less than 4 months

>TRT
>cycle for 12 weeks
what?

250mg for 24 weeks, definetely.

24 weeks of 250mg test. You can only gain so much muscle in a period of time. If you’ve never taken AAS before it’s going to do be a lot. To put it another way, if you were working out for the first time would do a pretty boring and basic workout or would you do a bunch of drop sets to failure and then throw on partials and forced reps etc? Use the appropriate stimulus relative to you. There’s more to consider than muscle gain btw. You’d want to start low to assess your tolerance.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15238910/

Do regular UK armed forces CDT detect steroids? They say they do but I’m sceptical

ralox completely or partially removes gyno for alot of people

TRT isn’t a cycle user. TRT means you’re replacing your bodies natural hormones with exogenous hormones because your body doesn’t make a sufficient amount. You never come off of TRT, it’s for life.

Right, it just hasn’t really done anything for me and mine is pretty mild already. I might try a different source. I heard letro works too

Thanks for the help lads, that's what I was hoping to hear.
Gonna go for long term 250mg then.

If you do that be prepared to never come off, just saying. Your question was which would yield better muscle building results not which was “better” overall. Length of cycle has a nigger impact on shutdown than dosage. This is important if you’re planning to cycle off completely

why do steroids cause clitoral enlargement but no penis gains?

What would the results of running tren with sust?

sorry this meant for give it more time user. letro works too but ralox (and nolva too) is really selective for the receptors in your tiddies.
adding a aromatase inhibitor is probably going to improve your recovery but i would make sure to not completely eradicate all your estrogen. the fact that raloxifene acts as a agonist for the ER everywhere else but your tiddies helps, but it doesnt help much if there is no estrogen left in your body. letro is extremely strong

Only the androgenic ones do that to females. And because your dick isn’t a clit.

but they do cause penis gains, user. they are marginal but they are there.
clits are undeveloped dicks. male adult dicks are fully developed

I’m taking .33mg of Arimidex daily on 175mg/wk of TC. Its UGL dex though

fake bullshit post, enjoy your first couple or weeks of placebo.

>Test
More confidence, energy, drive, mental clarity, less anxiety
>Proviron
Balances out mood, horny af, calm
>dbol
like test but also cocky douchebag to it

>only the androgenic ones
there is no AAS that isnt androgenic. thats why they are called AAS. if the ones that are supposed to have a androgenic rating of zero, still cause virilization in women at high enough doses

what?

i wouldnt bother with letro though. or atleast, not stack it together. they both inhibit the aromatase enzyme

no they're not they're developed from the same primal organ but in a completely different direction a clit is the closest thing a female has to a dick in terms of anatomy but it's still completely different. dick size doesn't change with steroids use because the membranes of the corpora cavernosa are tough and fibrous, they cant grow anymore due to the nature of the tissue (but they can be stretched with lots of effort). the clit does not have these membranes and is more of a spongy connective tissue

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I was possibly going to switch not stack but I’ll just be patient. It’s not bad enough for surgery but it’s noticeable to me and probably anyone else who’s familiar with it. $4-7k for surgery, I’ll try other options.

lmao test is the crack of steroids

Any issues post cycle? Balls not growing to same size after cycle, permanent hairline damage, sperm quality, conceiving issues? Anyone got any stories to share

You're actually right that the dose should be stated like 4-6 mg/kg, but then you will have incessant autistic kvetching about whether should I go with the high end or the low end, is that my current BW, goal BW, lean BW, should I change the dose as I gain weight, etc. So 1 cc of 250 mg/ml test twice a week it is, bois.

Good luck dude, DOD investigators are pretty damn thorough especially if you're going for TS/SCI

>things that never happened