I'm done with women - now women are into me

I'm smaller. Like I said, I fucking try-hard'd at that age but the years have chilled me out CONSIDERABLY and I just work out for my mental health and to keep my joints/tendons/ligaments/JEFF CAVALIER ATHLEAN X.COM healthy these days.

I do look different facially and can actually grow a beard, that much I know has changed.

Not the guy you are replying to buy you're wrong. Women in general prefer older looking dudes and have no issue dating older men whereas men seem to have more interest in girls around their peak (18-23)

Why do you think the whole daddy image is a thing? Why do you think women still find Leonardo Dicaprio, David Beckham and brad pitt attractive? Yes they have good genetics but they are also old yet a lot of younger women still find them very attractive

>Relationship or dating thread.

You’re 27 and you’ve never had sex? Lol how fucked up are you?

I’d react in a similar way if somebody said they’d never drank water.

You might have suffered from looking like a little boy syndrome until your current age (a lot of guys have this issue)

All this cope just to cover up the fact that you're too insecure to be with a girl now that you have the opportunity.

in hollywood women suddenly show up and become huge stars in their youth and then disappear just as suddenly when a new younger hot girl shows up

the men stick around and have careers lasting 50-60 years

it's the same dynamic elsewhere. women get their free ride late teens early 20s and everything for free then get usurped by a younger version of themselves

men have to struggle to make it but get way more success

I have kissed, though. I did that like two years ago for the first time (literally because a girl at work weaseled herself into my life and made me her bf. It's a long story but not unlike what these harpies at working are trying to do to me now)

not OP but I lost my virginity at 27. I was raped a lot growing up and it made forming relationships hard as the idea of sex and intimacy made my skin crawl for a long time.

Jesus Christ couldn’t read more than two lines of your sperg posting without revolting. No wonder women aren’t interested you’re a red flag. Please continue on your path of not reproducing

Because women can smell desperation like a dog smells fear. Your problem is you kept being a try hard for too long and now that you’ve unlocked the secret you’re jaded from projecting your lack of success on everything but yourself... grow up and get laid

lol this

They can sense that you’re no longer drooling over them and this lack of giving a fuck about them makes you attractive in their eyes.

the attitude of being girl-crazy is unattractive. Your demeanor now where you are relaxed and yet a bit mysterious too because you're deliberately ignoring them is far more attractive to females than desperate simping. Also, just in general people (most mammals, actually) try harder the more variable and unpredictable a reward is. It's the reason people gamble and get addicted to such. In this scenario the 'reward' is your favor/affection/attention. By not consistently giving it to them, making them never know when they will get it from you, it drives them to continue. Also now that you're older you're probably more attractive. You probably know how to dress, carry yourself, speak, etc. much better than you did as a goofy, awkward 17 year old. Male fertility peaks between 30-35, so you're probably looking the most attractive at this point in your life if you look your age. Female fertility peaks in our early to mid 20s

My advice? Just ignore. Been doing it all my life to members of the opposite sex who aren't Christians. Gets easier over time.

t. took a few levels of psychology and am grill

What the fuck I’m 26 and scared of intimacy and love but I was never raped. The fucks my excuse? I find it so hard to trust people with my deepest secrets

This isn't altogether untrue either. All the shit I went through when I was younger won't just wash off overnight; these women don't know anything about my past and just look at me and assume I'm some normal, well-adjusted, throws-back-a-pint-or-two-with-the-boys-on-a-Friday-night kind of guy fit to protect them and bear their children. This is why this is so jarring to me. It was like
>you're creepy
>you're creepy
>gross!
>ew!
>you're creepy!
>"ben can touch me...but you can't"
>you're such a freak!
for years and all of a sudden around 24/25
>hey
>"can you open this bottle for me? I know it's cliche since you're a guy but"
>"what's up?"
>"I would never hurt you, user"
>"user! hi!!"

It's like I became a different man and nobody told me. There is too much dissonance here to reconcile the two.

Okay? I’ve kissed more women/girls than I can count. Why haven’t you sealed a deal? How fucked up are you?

I’m sorry bro, that’s awful. Don’t listen to people here about women wanting nothing to do with you as soon as you reveal a weakness or insecurity, there are a myriad of kind women out there who will empathize with you.

Report simp threads.

How do you beat insecurity? My life is pretty much dedicated to the cope

You’re not a man so you have no bearing on male sex drive. Every remotely attractive woman I see I imagine what vulgar sex acts with her would look like. Naked, bent over, being fucked by me. Or my cock in her mouth. Whatever.

Testosterone is one hell of a molecule. To have never acted upon that impulse makes me question if this person can even be considered a man.

>Here's my point: I would have L O V E D this attention when I was 17 years old but now it's just annoying and old hat
I mean that is not surprising. A man can only handle so much rejection before he becomes jaded to the point where he can't really love like "normal" people do
t. in the same boat (well kinda, I have women showing me some interest instead of none like before, I am not getting swarmed in attention). I'm 24

>Women want what they can't have
This kinda applies to both sexes tho

I guess it depends on what your insecurity is, but generally I would say experience through exposure. When I was younger I thought I wasn't good enough for girls and it reflected itself in how I approached them and talked to them. I had no confidence and they will pick up on that in an instant.
Eventually I just started exposing myself to the stuff that made me anxious and with time, and experience, I learned that none of it is worth the worry. I have been rejected dozens of times and my first couple of times with a girl I couldn't even get an erection because I was so nervous (that gf was a saint for putting up with me), but I powered through it, dealt with the shame, and now being with and attracting women just isn't a problem anymore.

>I fucking try-hard'd for YEARS building my physique, researching PUA shit online, looksmaxxing

lmao

I can't believe you fell for this shit

I had to do something. I wanted girls and so I did something about it but clearly it didn't work. I don't want girls for even the most trivial of reasons nowadays (e.g. they'll fuck up my sleep schedule or even just hurt my sleep quality by sleeping in the same bed as them) and so I'm not doing shit to attract them and yet here I am, getting the most female attention I've ever had in my entire life.

>I had to do something.

Yeah, its called working on yourself and getting a personality.

Oh wait no you browsed Yas Forums all dat and watched videos and read posts about lookmaxxing

Larping this much. Nobody wants your virgin ass.

Please give us examples of women being into you. You're probably just imagining this all. Also you're probably fat.

>you got older and more valuable
>they got older and less valuable
There's your answer, retard.

Your entire thing could have been summed up as "was a dyel at 17, got in shape over the past 10 years, now roasties want me but I want career gains instead- what do".

I suggest reading Greek classical works (not the Roman era types, 400 years before that when aristotle was around). Hesiod has choice opinions about women, such as "ignore that woman's buttocks, she is merely after your barn".

You know you could maintain your current attitude and just fuck some of them? Then when you're done kick them out cause you gotta get to bed.

Make them work around you. Girls love it when you ignore and treat them like shit.

nah more like
>looked like a teenage boy at 17, ignored
>looked like a teenage boy at 20, ignored
>look like a man now and women are attracted to me

I don't think teenage boys are ignored otherwise there would be no dudes with gfs on campuses and the girls would all date the younger professors instead.

Maybe you mean "the girls I was attracted to were in a higher league than me and thus unattracted to me"

Unironically cba to read this fucking blogpost, miss me with that victim mentality - you are no better than a fat whale crying thin privilege.

Fuck you and all the sadcunts infecting this forum ruining my shits. I come here to see shitty memes not shitty lives.

Women can smell neediness from a mile away and when you put all this effort into getting girls but are coming from a place of need or lacking, it’s a problem. This shift to a ‘don’t give a fuck’ mindset is attractive to them bc you’re marching to the beat of your own drum and being comfortable in your own skin. If you can keep this indifferent attitude but still pursue women and show your genuine interest without being needy, you’ll be golden. And about being a virgin, some girls will care but that’s their own problem. Be honest and open about having little experience, own it without feeling of insecurity, and the chicks that like you and are good for you won’t be deterred and will stick around.

This is your imagination at work friend. What happened is that when you stopped trying so hard you also stop letting your whiny faggot personality leak out all over the place. You have fewer red flags so to speak and since you aren't a hunchback women are willing to talk to you.

But it is a Level 99-tier virgin move to conflate a females interest with her interest in wanting to have sex with you.

>the girls who want to fuck will let you know
>the girls who want to date will let you know
>the girls who want to know your name or how your day went will let you know

Breathe deep little sperg.

They don't actually like you.

They are just acting like sluts, the second you mess around with them they will lose interest.

>the girls who want to fuck will let you know
Only whores that fuck dozens of guys do that shit.

It sounds like your reasons for ‘not wanting’ them could just be your mind’s justification for inaction. Take some action, learn how to flirt, and take it one step at a time. Smile, talk, be playful and positive to women you could see yourself being interested in. But don’t expect anything from it, just be social and flirty for the sake of it. When you treat it like nothing is at stake it takes some pressure off. And don’t listen to the people here saying to ignore them and treat them like shit. You’ll attract low quality women. You can show interest and be a kind person without being a simp. Big difference

thats all women

>And don’t listen to the people here saying to ignore them and treat them like shit.

No you flirt with them first and when they start showing up randomly just to see or talk to you, then you treat them like shit and ignore them.

why the fuck would you do that?

my best friend who is a chad told me when we were 12/13 'never show a girl you like her and want her, because then its over'
Best advice ive ever gotten in regards to girls. Once they know you like her, she'll think ure a useless beta

So they go away?
lol

When he was 17, OP began to play with his own turds. "I would go into the bathroom, shit on top of the toilet seat or in a dish, and then while masturbating, I would lick it and smell it," he says. 'The orgasm was so intense." But afterwards came guilt. "I didn't know if it was right or if I should be doing anything like that. I still feel that way. I don't know why."

OP has engaged in shit play with only one other man. They connected via Yas Forums, ostensibly just for vanilla sex. "We were sixty- nining and I was licking his ass. He said, 'What do you want me to do?' and I said, 'I want you to shit on me.' The minute I saw it start to come out I just put my mouth on it and I let him go right in my mouth."

OP's fantasy had come true. "It was really thrilling having this guy let me eat his shit," he recalls.

"I felt like it was a privilege to do it for him. And I actually chewed it and swallowed."

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Rape is a crime brah

I mean yeah I coulda probably had sex with a hambeast or a 3/10 by now if I wanted to but why the fuck would I want that

Not op btw

Hey, y'all know the word girlfriend has the word friend in it, right? So here's a tip: Go out and do things you like, when you meet girls, just chat with them about things you both like (aka be yourself) and if they like you, learn to read the signs that a girl likes you (excessive giggling, fidgeting, excessive touching you).

There, that's the answer. Chill and just do your thing until it happens naturally.

why dont you just fuck them ? are you afraid of pussy? lol

post body

Because I'm celibate, I don't fuck girls just because they are attracted to me, there is no point in doing that it makes both of you unhappy in the long run.

>in doing that it makes both of you unhappy in the long run.
How do you know that?

Statistical probability. The risk isn't worth the reward.