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Trenbolone edition. Post your experience with the alpha juice.

Before asking your stupid beginner questions, please do your own research and don't just blindly repeat what plebbitards tell you.

Oral only cycles are fucking STUPID. You need a test base to amplify the effects of orals, so that the liver damage is worth it.

ABSOLUTELY no source talk!

If you’re going to ask for cycle advice, please include
>age
>weight/height
>time spent training
>BF %
>penile length

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Tren is so powerful it made your mom look fuckable.

yeah but im scared of needle
what the best cutting pills?

DNP

Daily reminder to not do steroids

post body

I'm on my first cycle and I've mostly just been experimenting with things since side effects from steroids seem to be minimal for me. Added deca 3.5 weeks in. Also started anadrol at the end of week 9 for a family event that was cancelled by the coronavirus. I got some tren e for my second cycle, but because the gyms are shutting down due to the coronavirus, I decided to start blasting it for the last 6.5 weeks of the cycle since I'm moving to another town some weeks after my cycle and won't have access to my home gym equipment. I'd originally meant to take 200mg of tren a week after frontloading with 250mg, but I did a stupid and frontloaded with 500mg by accident since I thought it was 100mg per cc instead of 200, so now I'm doing 400mg of tren per week because I want stable blood levels. All I had for sides was some tren cough and night sweats that mostly got better after the first couple days or so and are continuing to improve. The mass and strength gains are very good and I've decided to blast and cruise instead of PCT because my natural test levels are trash. (I didn't know this until I got bloodwork to get a baseline for PCT, but it explains a lot of things about my life inside and outside of lifting.)

I'm about to start """TRT""" with 300mg/wk test e. Will have AI to hand but no PCT as the plan is to cruise forever and I hear test only cycles dont really need PCT anyway. What should I expect?

>and I hear test only cycles dont really need PCT anyway
lmao

>In random surveys of chicken products across the United States in 2012, the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine found 48% of samples to contain fecal matter.
>On most commercial chicken farms, the chickens spend their entire life standing in, lying on, and living in their own manure, which is somewhat mixed in with the bedding material (e.g. sawdust, wood shavings, chopped straw, etc.).

Yum! Eat up bodybuilders!

Just water fast you fucking retarded

It's all just a dream. Wake up. You got into an accident five years ago. Wake up.

tripfags are dead

Where can I get some reliable test cyp and some anavar?

are sarms talked about in these threads?

I'm going to start another blast in a couple months, but am having a hard time deciding on my next workout plan

when i first blasted, i just did my strength routine, but added some volume. got one of my goals down, not-so-great on the others. so i'm trying to come up with something different

is there some common lifting-while-roiding programs? i was thinking of maybe doing german volume training this time, but that might be too much

no

Same gib sauce

thank fuck there's a lot of wild hogs in my area. they taste fucking wonderful if you pressure cook them to break the meat down so it's tender. no hormones or anything to worry about. just protein and alpha hunter points

Everywhere. Both very common compounds. By the way, you do know test cypionate and enanthate are essentially the same thing right?

>BnC for a year, get off for a few months
>get back on a week ago and today when I was rinsing my hair I got two hairs on my hand every time I ran my hands through my hair with the water
Ree. Time to get back on Finasteride.

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My first cycle will be test e and cardarine.
Thoughts?

That's fine. What doses. The cardarine won't really do anything for you bodybuilding wise, mostly just improve your cardio temporarily while you're on it.

Why are you even roiding if you're not doing tren?

250 eod test e
20 mg cardarine ed
8 week cycle

since I already have gyno I will take double doses of PCT

Up it to 500, it’s the recommend *starter* dosage for a reason

npp has less sides and is pretty good unless you're trying to get to 5%bf

250 eod is 875/wk. The injection frequency is too high but the dose is higher than beginner so that's fine.

>I will take double doses of PCT
PCT is post cycle therapy. You're probably talking about AI. Also you need to understand the difference and use of AI vs SERM.

Instead of using finasteride maybe I should try a low dht, low androgenic stack like 200mg test 600mg deca. Would this shut my cock off?

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possibly, I think 1:2 to 2:3 test:nand is preferable to get enough "DHT antagonism" without totally killing your dick.

Don't go above 100mg test a week. 400mg deca/week is plenty for a long cycle.

I didnt know that but I'm already on test cyp but want to blast and I want to get my girl some anavar. I know there are a million websites that sell it but I dont know which ones to trust.

So I've blasted and cruised for 5 years. High doses year round. I ended up with cancer, this is another story but it's related to steroid use (androgen induced HCC). However it has surprisingly starting to regress. I was originally given just a few months to live.

My question is for people who have come off after long time, how did you manage it? I obviously stopped all gear as soon as I ended up in the hospital, and it's been 5 months now. My test is 3.7nmol/l so tanked as fuck.

I'd rather not use TRT since high levels of androgens caused my cancer, however I think a low dose would be fine. I started a PCT with just nolva and triptorelin 100mcg. Hoping the trip will do something, I've found mixed results with it.

Thoughts on masteron?

great if you don't care about your hair.

What if you don’t have the bald gene?

then it's just great.

FUCK YEAH MY NIGGA!!!! IM ABOUT TO LOOK SO FUCKING JUICY!

>t. Guy about to recede his hairline

Hey, i would like to hear you guys opinion on this.
I'm currently 7 weeks in on a cycle consisting of:
170mg test p EOD (600mg/wk)
130mg NPP EOD (450mg/wk)
50mg proviron ED
5mg aromasin ED

I made very good gains so far, i am currently at 108kgs, however i'm planning on increasing the dosage and switching to ED injections since the steroids wont fit in the syringe if i'm going to keep doing EOD injections. Also i can add shoulders and ventroglutes into my inject rotation this way because the only places i feel comfortable putting 3ml in are my glutes and quads at this point.
The new dosages would be:
100mg test p ED (700mg/wk)
80mg NPP ED (560mg/wk)

And also i'm planning on adding either tbol at 70mg/ed for a 5-6 week period.

Do you think i would need to increase my ai dosage for this and would you think i'd run into prolactin issues with the increased npp dose?
Do you think the test/npp ratio looks good?
also what's your opinion on tbol for this cycle?

Lots of questions but i hope someone with knowledge could share their opinions on this.
thanks in advance

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Yes, however I need to research about it more.
finding sarms is easy, muscle benzin on the other hand...

>muscle benzin
What? Also, I said SERM, not SARM. I hope you aren't getting those confused. They are totally different.

muscle fuel

If you’re an amateur lifter trying to look awesome (best person in any given normie gathering) and you value your health (long term and short term) over lifting, all you need is test e for bulking and low dose sus 250 with mast/primo. Prove me wrong :>)

Can anyone here post their before and after cycle pictures? I want some motivation.
Or post your starting strength on the big 4, how long your cycle was, and your strength on the big 4 after the cycle.

>squat 165->190kg
>bench 120->142.5kg
>don't train dl or ohp
10w test only @ 450mg
no pics cause I got fat.
inb4 roiding for this

>when i first blasted, i just did my strength routine, but added some volume. got one of my goals down, not-so-great on the others. so i'm trying to come up with something different
Which goals did you succeed and fail to meet?
>is there some common lifting-while-roiding programs? i was thinking of maybe doing german volume training this time, but that might be too much
Not really. Most people just do the same programming they would have done and progress faster/further.

My tdee averages out to 2600 kcal a day not on cycle, how much will my tdee increase when I go on cycle? I'm gonna do 600mg test / week.

And should I still eat less on rest days or should I just average the total weekly calories and eat the same amount each day?

Masteron is a less potent androgen than equal amounts of test prop. This is why it was used preferentially, briefly, in the treatment of women with breast cancer.
> hurr durr its a dht u dum ass!
Anavar is also derived from dht and yet morons think its for girls. The parent molecule is pretty irrelevant...plenty of testosterone derivatives act nothing like testosterone other than in the broadly generalized sense that androgens are all pretty similar.

Masteron is no worse for your hair than most androgens and a hell of a lot safer than some. Only in a community as stupid as the steroid community do men tell eachother paranoid tales about weak drugs like masteron but apparently dont bat an eye at blasting huge amounts of test.... which will with all certainty, absent 5ARI use, eventually rob you of your follicles.

Why test e + sust?

Basically same thing right?

Ive ran nandrolone solo for months and had rock cock. Ive also had test only runs and had a soft cock. Suffice to say the simplistic broscience swapped around on forums and tidbits from literature taken out of context dont do anything but muddy or provide comforting placebos. If one has sexual desire but finds their little boy isnt performing well, but does so just fine with drugs like cialis or viagra, the first thing you should question is your blood pressure. Guys whove been on for a long time, especially you millennials with this yolo attitude towards dosage and duration, tend to have blood like molasses and pretty bad blood pressure. Its also worth noting that a study examing young and apparently healthy steroid users found 25% of them had detectable arterial calcification, which is alarming. ED is a warning sign. Best of luck.

I mean from my experience that ratio has libido down from what I think is lack of DHT binding. Dick still works though without any additional drugs, and I only coomed like once a week, which I felt was great cause I could focus on other stuff. I do donate blood regularly and use ramipril to keep BP in check. I know nand solo is fine, but there's some ratio of test:nand that results in dead dicks and I can see it going that way possibly with low test high nand.

His blend might not have that ester

Did 4 month stack along with Primo and Test a few years ago.
>Sweating 24/7 at the slightest exertion, but especially sleeping. Could literally wring my pillow out in the morning, even sleeping bare ass naked with open windows and a fan blowing directly on me.
>Crazy vivid dreams, GF said I would be thrashing and flailing all the time.
>Horny 24/7, would fuck GF 5-6 times a day, every day, doing all kinds of demented nasty shit.
>Tren Cough - Scary as fuck sometimes but I was also a complete moron and just YOLO'd my pins without aspirating the needle, ever.
>Best shape of my life. Lean, cut, dry. was OHPing 225 for reps, 5 plate DL, 4pl bench.

Haven't ran another stack because it's addictive as fuck. Also I don't want to age my face and develop gyno from abusing them. I'm just a gymrat with no delusions of going pro or seeking attention on instagram so I just lift natty now. Kept most of the gains.

bump

Search wild hog blue meat, hate me later

cut or recomp on tren? I'm undecided. I feel like cutting is a waste of anabolics.

Looks like your dealer sold you tren, nigga

can someone red pill me on epo?

/fraud/ on literal suicide watch. Can’t wait to see all you depleted faggots when the gym reopens

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1 mg of tren every day
Im going to rape the first woman I see on the grocery store

Steroid Redpills:

- A 500mg Test cycle will not make you huge

- You must take at least 1.5g to 2.5g of gear a week to get truly huge

- The pros are taking massive dosages

- Everyone lies about their dosages, the reasons vary, from sponsorships to harm reduction, but everyone fucking lies

- Test is best. Testosterone is the most well tolerated steroid and gives the best feeling. Try 700mg of Test Prop per week.

Ranking steroids in order:

Testosterone
Trenbolone
Deca
Masteron
EQ

Ranking orals:

Superdrol
Dianabol
Anadrol
Winstrol
Turnibol
Proviron
Anavar