/fast/ general - redpilled edition

/fast/ing general
What is /fast/?
Fast is a thread for the discussion of intermittent fasting, fasting, water fasting, and fat fasting
While fasting alone is fantastic for your health, Consider doing a ketogenic in addition to become god mode

Snake juice:
youtube.com/watch?v=-s-xjsR89XI

>how can I get a quick rundown? Where can I start?
dietdoctor.com/intermittent-fasting
dietdoctor.com/longer-fasting-regimens
youtube.com/watch?v=9idhb2aAfns

IF AND LIFTING:
leangains.com/2010/04/leangains-guide.html?

>any more info?
idmprogram.com/fed-fasted-state/
medium.com/the-mission/the-sweet-spot-for-intermittent-fasting-9aae12a2158c
youtube.com/watch?v=PKfR6bAXr-c
news.usc.edu/63669/fasting-triggers-stem-cell-regeneration-of-damaged-old-immune-system/

>Doesn't salt make you explode?
youtube.com/watch?v=amJ-ev8Ial8

WHY YOU SHOULD BE DOING KETO:
youtube.com/watch?v=Dan8qtgQRi8

>autophagy:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3106288/
greatist.com/live/autophagy-fasting-exercise
dietdoctor.com/renew-body-fasting-autophagy
selfhacked.com/blog/autophagy-benefits-and-how-to-harness/
roguehealthandfitness.com/intermittent-fasting-boosters-autophagy-enhancers/
roguehealthandfitness.com/coffee-is-associated-with-lower-death-rates/
tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.4161/auto.1.3.2017?needAccess=true

>Fung talks and lectures:
youtube.com/watch?v=tIuj-oMN-Fk
youtu.be/PSR82vmZ5lk
youtu.be/v9Aw0P7GjHE

Extra:
DRINK COFFEE, DRINK GREEN TEAS
sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/08/170827101750.htm
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24769862

Other urls found in this thread:

roguehealthandfitness.com/coffee-is-associated-with-lower-death-rates/
twitter.com/AnonBabble

i'm so hungry friends

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17 hours in, going for a 72, this time with salt water
Feeling good so far

I've had the shits for 3 days so I've been fasting too to make the most of it. Lost 9kg so far. only 3 more and I'll be 80kg again.

>Lost 9kg so far.
Jesus lad.
That's a lot of water weight, good job though.

Week 5! Today's my birthday.

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Yeah I'm stopping the fast today just in case

Anyone here drink their own piss yet?

You don't have to lad. Unless you feel like shit, of course.
I always just go by feeling.

Did a 30hr fast yesterday for the first time in a while but broke it with eggs and sausage.

I ended up eating more at night but this morning I got my 2L water with 2tbsp of baking soda and I'm back on that grind.

It was so hard yesterday because of all the conditioned responses to going to go get food from the kitchen. I wanna be able to go days without getting hungry again like i used to in the past, but fucking hell this body screaming shit is for real.

Hang in there bros make sure your suffering is not in vain like mine was. Shit sucks but there's a good reason we do it.

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How much weight do you guys lose on average?

honestly, i can't stand this shit anymore. i always fuck up and eat after 24 hours. when i do get further i go back to 24s again anyway. fuck man i just want to eat my bacon.

probably a dumb question, but wouldn't it be counterintuitive to lift weights while going through a fast? for example, if I lift today and don't eat till tomorrow or the next day, wouldn't that hinder my gains? or even worse, my body goes after the gains I have vs. fat?

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I'm just a bit concerned about the amount, I'll take some juice and see how another day feels maybe

Im gonna do a fast to fix my bloating, i look like a pregnant lady.. How long a fast would be enough to fix extreme bloating?

Just a few days
Try 48-72 hours

Congratulations on your birthday!

i ended up saying fuck it. i'm eating 3 packages of bacon and spinach and whatever else i can. i'm going to eat as much as possible and just fast long as fuck.

I'M SO FUCKING COLD

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Congrats friend, happy birthday

Good. The body burns tons of calories when it literally has to burn the fat to varm itself.

Fellas how long would it take for me to drop from 187lbs to 130lbs just fasting, like i'm planning on doing a prolonged fast, so any clues or tips?

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I was doing that before I started fasting

oh and btw should i do plain water or urine? i cant do snake juice cause corona chan got all my bucks

Don't be so hard on yourself. Eating is fine, as long as you go back to fasting afterwards. You can still lose weight doing 48 or 72 hour fasts.

>can't do snake juice
You don't have salt in the house? The only other essential is potassium chloride which'll cost you fuck all for a couple months worth of supply. I wouldn't attempt a prolonged fast without snake juice, you can do it but you'll feel like shit

Well i got salt at home obviously, but thats it

and to be honest i dont care about feeling like shit, my only worry is passing out.

and cole himself said that urine is as good as snake juice, but idk how long can you go on urine alone

Your body needs electrolytes to function. You will get a heartattack without them.

Urin can work fine for some weeks I guess. But do you really want to drink your own piss just to save $5 on some nosalt that lasts months?

You can't go on urine alone, there's a reason why it's a waste product, it's full of shit your body wants out of it. If you're pissing out excess electrolytes it'll help when diluted with water but you'll get diminishing returns. Have you drunk your own piss? I have after pissing in a beer bottle while drunk then swigging it the next day and it's not something I'm ever going to do by choice. Just order some potassium chloride online if you don't want to go outside, beg your family for $5 if you really have no money

So the only thing i need is kitchen salt and potassium chloride? that all? shouldnt have pink salt stuff etc?

No, you can use table salt if you want, the baking soda and Epsom salts are just extras if you have them, add them, otherwise don't bother.

So, is drinking plain coffee and tea during fasts encouraged now? I remember a lot of people being iffy about it a while ago.

I do it and experience no real issues, it depends on the person really

>What is fasting?
A period of time where you don't consume ANY calories
>What is the shortest time I can fast?
16:8. A 16 hour fast and 8 hour eating window per day
>What is the longest time I can fast?
You can fast as long as you have more than 8% body fat and supplement correctly
>How do I supplement correctly?
Get enough minerals. Mainly sodium and potassium
>Where do I get sodium and potassium?
Sodium Chloride is table salt or pink salt. Potassium Chloride is salt substitute, found by the salt in grocery stores
>Can I just take sodium without potassium?
3No. This is how you fuck your shit up. Potassium is non-negotiable
>How much sodium and potassium?
2500 mg / 1 teaspoon of each is a good start
>Can I take all the salt at once?
No. You will shit yourself and flush electrolytes. Mix the salts with 1-2 L of water and sip throughout the day. Mixture is called snake juice
>Can I just drink water without salts?
For shorter fasts, yes. But for long ones, you'll deplete your electrolytes and feel like shit
>How long can I go on just water?
Til you feel like shit
>Any other minerals I need?
Some add magnesium to their routine as well
>What about multivitamins?
Not really necessary
>Anything else I can add to my routine?
You can add cayenne pepper
Some do 1 tsp of baking soda and 0.5 tsp sodium cl for kidney health
Some take ACV and lemon juice. Acids fuck your teeth, so don't mix with snake juice. Take separately
>Coffee, tea, sweeteners?
Can raise cortisol and insulin, reducing effects of fasting. Otherwise okay
>Why not just do CICO?
CICO fucks with both your TDE and your insulin levels in ways that fasting does not. Also, fasting has other health benefits
>What are the other benefits of fasting?
Autophagy, reduced inflammation, HGH boost, immune system recovery, increased insulin sensitivity, more muscle sparing
Resources:
>Fung
youtube.com/watch?v=YpllomiDMX0
>Cole
youtube.com/channel/UC_yUeH8TsG5pxqvkOxBtsFA
>Discord
discord.gg/sG4vTsz

i really want to fast, but recently i started pigging out. i already overeat, but then i started eating more. wtf. i'm going in the opposite direction. :-\
no excuses, just have to keep trying

Watch some Cole videos
Getting yelled at could help you

Thanks!

How much progress have you made?

>heart attack without them.
how come those facebook people go days on end with plain water and nothing happens to them.

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Because blanket statements like that are almost always false

How do you make snake juice taste better?

Add a little more water
What I do is chug snake juice and also drink just a few drops of plain water

Freshwater is like my treat, it almost tastes sweet to me now

I haven't been weighing myself, but my belly (which is what I want to get rid of the most) is much smaller than when I started.

I want to try my first fast.
Aiming at 24 hours, anything important I need to know not covered in the OP?
I'm not planning on lifting or any heavy physical activity because Corona got me locked up.
Like what kind of food should I break my fast with?
I got my water, salt, potassium chloride and magnesium, anything missing?

how do i stop hunger pangs in the first 3 days

break your fast with a low carb meal
high protein, good amount of veggies

Eat a steak or something like that, maybe some potatoes and broccoli too.
It really doesn't matter at 24h.

Which snake juice recipe do you guys feel better on?
NaCl, KCl, NaHCO3, MgSO4
or
NaCl, KCl

Thanks guys

FASTING AND THE KETOGENIC DIET SHOULD BE COMPLETELY SEPARATE. THE KETOGENIC DIET IS FUCKING GARBAGE FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO GO TO THE GYM.

ALSO, PROMOTING COFFEE AND GREEN TEA SHOULD ALSO BE SEPARATE FOR OTHER REASONS.

>roguehealthandfitness.com/coffee-is-associated-with-lower-death-rates/
tell me why I should believe coffee is good when caffiene is know to cause holes

i always break my fasts because i convince myself i need to eat after working out. since i can't workout, no excuses.
gonna fit into pants i haven't been able to wear in 4 years now.

Why are there still people who believe starvation mode exists when it has been debunked many times? Are fatties so desperate to make an excuse for shoving tons of junk down their throats?

Do it
How long are you going for?
They're
>legitimately stupid or
>they're just looking for excuses
Can't blame them though

>but broke it with eggs and sausage
You mean a penis and a ballsack?

What the fuck

Yes, you can blame them for being fat. Nobody forcefed them.

i'd like to beat my old record of 5 1/2 days, at least a week. i'm on spring break for 2 weeks, so hopefully longer.

Starting again

Longest I ever went was 2 days. I'm not gonna give up now.

At what hour does hgh production kick in?
also
>jannies deleted the op

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