When did the obsession with leanness come along?

Incel's prophet

This. If anyone promotes the image of well fed, hairy manly men, it CERTAINLY wouldn't be Greeks and Italians.

Because it looks good, is a signal of leading an active lifestyle, and nowadays, poor and stupid people are largely obese, being lean shows you are not one of them. Bloatlords need to cope with the fact that unless you are in the top percentiles of noticeable muscle mass you will just look like any unathletic labourer with a beer gut out there.

You're not ready to take this pill but here goes;

Women started taking birth control which has been proven to reduce feminine response to male sexual visual stimuli - all these genderless ex-women who have had their sexuality chemically neutered will then gravitate towards features not classically attributed to masculinity and sexual health (ie. sixpack)

(studied as, women on birth control found men with feminine/androgenous faces more attractive, women OFF birth control found strong/bearded/browed faces more attractive)

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Supply demand

In 20th century skinny was normal, big was outlier like arnold.

In 21st everyone is obese with waist size over 40 on men and women. Abs are a myth now to normies

Yes user, that's why women don't like fat neckbeards, the birth control. We all know abs and defined musculature are feminine, and high bf% is masculine.

When the fashion industry got taken over by fags that like tween boys.

Testosterone is higher in lean men.

You ever notice how gay men embrace masculinity and embody it? Why

stop scrambling for counter arguments like a little faggot - women dont like fat neckbeards regardless because thats unhealthy.

natural masculinity is not abs, its big fucking muscles, hair and certainly a moderate amount of fat, not enough to be a 'fat person' though. OP pic is quite representative of what I mean.

When the words “big” and “fat” became synonymous.

Just because the pic made your dick wiggle doesn’t mean it’s the one that’s gay user...

You like bears, dude. We get it. You’re a fag, big fuckin whoop

ah yes, that would be why I'm specifically discussing the impact of external factors on what women currently desire... ngl pretty cringe man.

Because they like men, user.

Sure user, being lean isn't masculine at all, real men have tits. Not like the standard for strong lean men has been going on the arts for a few millennia

Because femoids are gross and cringe thus to be desirable is to not exude femininity?

user that's 100% a gay parade. That's why there a bunch of shirtless middle aged men out in the street drinking.

shitty rhetoric
0/10 post

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Or just a summer barbecue.

Ultra low body fat causes low testosterone. Fat is a building block of testosterone.

You're so cute. Leave now, it'll only get worse.

Having body fat too low is literally unhealthy and a symptom of malnutrition.

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And scrawny dudes with abs look like pussies. Abs on a skinny guy is like tits on a fat chick.

>why do gay men like the traits of men
You're not very bright are you?

I mean I could believe either option, but I just don’t see a clear indicator about it being absolutely gay

then why did artists of the old world depict men with sixpack etc. ?

it has always been the ideal stop coping faggot

>summer barbeque
>in the middle of downtown, in the middle of a street with no women in sight
It's a fag fest
It's

Jesus wasn't a virgin.
He took loads of cock.

that's just cope for why you get no pussy my man

Well it is a small frame so none in sight is a pretty disingenuous claim

This guy's got it right.
When everyone worked outside, being pale was a status symbol. When everyone works inside, tan is status symbol.
When everyone hustled to keep fed and food was more than just 7% of total costs (talking burgerland here where food is a small expense), having some fat was good. Like SERE school where the best advice is to get as fat as you can while still maintaining good pt scores because you're going to lose 40 lbs playing an extended game of hide-and-seek innawoods. Every winter could be like that, potentially.
Now everyone has installed mental illness and it's rare to have body fat

leanness was not desired in the early 1930s and again during aprox 1938-1945.

based

I see what you did there.

does anyone seriously believe the right is more masculine despite his lower bodyfat?

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artists of the old world were men, user

yes right is more masculine because he has slender hips and would probably feel good to touch while i fuck his boipussy

>masculine
>boipussy
okay you deluded homo

What a fucking newfag.

1980s, lean was the goal.
1960s, lean was the goal.
2000s, lean was the goal.

2020s, lean will be the goal.

It has gone in twenty year cycles like this since the 1900s.

Women like big men, not fat, but big. Pic related.
Yes, the ancient Greeks idealized a lean body type, but who made these statues? Other men. The Greeks liked to fuck teenage boys too.

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Left is more masculine, but right is more aesthetic.

Masculine =/= aesthetic

When womens desires took sway.

Bitches like abs. They talk all this shit about dad boss, but thats just because its a meme and they all have daddy issues.

cope

you are whore is what you are

fucking other small, lean men is the new way to be masculine user

Who cares. Bitches like abs. If you lift for bitches, then go lean. If you dont then dont bitch.

bullshit they like big hairy oxes

Lean is disgusting most of the times except if you have good genetics and a perfect body shape.

They also like skinny fucks and skinnyfats get laid left and right cause what women truly like is dick. But abs are generally the most attractive muscle.

>Caring about what bitches and roasties want
Ngmi