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Frank edition

Before asking your stupid beginner questions (yes, they are stupid), make sure to read ALL OF the r/steroids wiki:
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>Reddit link
yeah, fuck off

Don't ask us to help you dose your AI. It's very individual. or see CCFC's handy faggotry guide.

Oral-only cycles put strain on the liver and cause a shutdown of natural testosterone production for not a lot of benefit. Just pin and thank us later.

ABSOLUTELY no source talk.

This isn't a medical forum. Stop asking for medical advice and go to a doctor.

Don't ask us to help you schedule your pinning dosages. New website: steroidplotter.com/

If you're going to ask a beginner question, make sure to include:
- age
- bf%
- time spent training

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I did a cycle of 400mg tren and 500mg test two years ago and was pretty happy with how it turned out. I started out too fat though. I am planning on cutting to an anorexia tier bodyweight (145 lbs or so) and then doing a 5 month blast with the same dosages. I normally sit around 190 pounds at 5'8"

Thoughts?

I’m the same height as Zane and my arms are roughly the same length. What do I take to look like him after the beginner cycle?

Daily reminder to not do steroids

You all suck my nuts

These are both T400. One is clearly yellower than the other. They're from different batches according to the label. Based on the color, I'm guessing one is underdosed or one is overdosed? Or could it just be different raws?

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bye, retard

different carrier oil. I'm guessing the one on the left is MCT and the one on the right is GSO. try reading the labels, should be on it.

>not posting the superior Frank

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Both are MCT, at least according to the label.

Guy looks photoshopped.

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>looks photoshoped
Is this bait?

Google craig golias. He's actually that big.

what's the point of frauding if your insertions are godawful?

Everyone always looks better swole. Even if they don't end up looking like zyzz.

How do I into roids if I travel every few months? Do I get off them then? Try to smuggle then in my luggage?

I'll never have those amazing square pecs...always weird half-separated rounded ones

But you can get huge.

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desu I'd rather look like one of those lean IG fuckbois than a bb. I don't really have any interest in competing.

Yea, everyone says that before they start actually putting muscle on. You'll learn.

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fair. Trying to lean down before fucking with any drugs (not that I could order any in the current situation anyways). Currently like 194 at probably 20% BF...comfy work sitch got me snackin and fat.

Lifts aren't impressive anyhow.

Yes, you'll want to be as lean as possible before starting juicing. That way when you end your bulk you won't be a total fatass. And I'm pretty certain you can still order whatever you want.

just wanna say you're probably the most polite guy I've seen in a /fraud/ thread. Good on ya m8.

I wanna go on a run but it's been raining all week in Los Angeles for the fucking first time in the last 100 years.

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First cycle is going well. My brain is full caveman mode and made a tinder. Got matches but one was a chubbier girl who just made my cock stiff. She came over and i fucked her like a pig. Thinking ab hitting her up again but currently ghosting

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Where in LA do you run?

Cardio is great for your heart and overall health. But, for losing weight it's purely a caloric thing. Eat a 500 calorie deficit. If you aren't hungry, you probably aren't in a deficit.

I'm thinking about starting a cycle after this summer for the first time. Wanna get my body fat down some more. What are you running?Any tips? Pro/Cons?

Just my neighborhood. I usually do it at the gym right after my weights session.

I know. But my TDEE is pretty low (2150) so I try anything to be able to cut more and not be miserable. In my heart I am a fatass.

The more I look at bodybuilding the more I realize the bodies I've grown up idolizing are just not happening with hardwork alone. I mean the nattys do an alright bear mode, but it just isn't enough for what I want.

I've been looking at the classic era stack of dbol and primobolan since it's the stack used to achieve the sort of physique I want, but I was wondering if there is a better choice than dbol. Suggestions?

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I’ve been working out for 10 years with a strict diet anyway. Its usually advised 500mg test/week for your first cycle but i said fuuck it and added some anadrol to kickstart.
>Tips
I’d say whatever you’re running grab an AI like adex or asin and a SERM like nolva. Find your sweet spot when taking them
>pros
I’m putting on a ton of lean muscle and i want to fuck everything with a vagina. Libido is sky high and i eat everything
>cons
Bit of bloating and a little acne but nothing asin/nolva can’t fix.

Overall i feel fucking great and like an animal and i swear bitches can smell the test on me

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My lifts are also skyrocketing

mct test should never be yellow so I'm not sure how that's possible

first injection of tren a today. i'm excited, daily pinning is going to be great.

Thanks for the reply! Keep on fucking and gaining man

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Enjoy your rage

test, mast, deca, primo, dbol

wouldn’t touch anything else if you want that look.

also take as little AI as possible

Finally decided to start pinning. Read so much about it that i dreamt about aromatose inhibitors last night lol.

From what ive read, i cant find any difference between test e and test c, except for the half life really.
I was going to do a 12 week cycle, 500mg test e @week.
Then a 4 week PCT afterwards.
However i decided to go for test c instead, as he already had it in his lair.
So i just got a couple of questions: Is 500mg of test e pretty much gonna give the same result as 500mg test c?
I will also have a little bit test left over after the cycle, but i wanna try to get rid of all the "evidence" when im done, and i hate throwing away useable products.
In total its 7500mg, that would average out on 625mg per week instead. Or should i just keep it at 500 and then throw it way up for a couple of weeks then go back to 500? Or should i just go 500mg the entire way and throw away the left over test?

Repost from qtddtot

>Buy my summer stack from local tren head friend
>tell him I need 50mg var pills
>half of the pills look like they were capsuled by him or his dealer
>the other half are very small orange triangles
>Look up the orange triangles
>Rurns out they are 10mg
>Ask a mutual friend if I should even bother him about it
>Mutual friend tells me I totally should and that he wouldn't blow up on me since he's my friend that it could have easily been a misunderstanding
>Casually bring it up to tren head friend while he seems to be cool headed with lots of other friends in the gym
>He goes fucking ballistic on me calling me a fucking social retard that has no knowledge of roids in front of everyone
>Embarressed as fuck and tears in my eyes I try to explain I'm not worried about the money or anything I just wanted to be sure of what I was putting into my body
>He tells me he's done being accused and keeps driving the idea that I was in the wrong for daring to mention it to him despite a mutual friend saying he'd be understanding

What should I have done bros? What should I do now? I'm not starting my cycle till the corona virus calms down but I'm still on edge as fuck with all of the shit going on

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>Is 500mg of test e pretty much gonna give the same result as 500mg test c?
yes
> I'm not starting my cycle till the corona virus calms down
pussy faggot

Fuck your friend, he should've just explained to you what the difference was, this isn't LSD it's fucking roids.

Maybe it's Guaiacol? It's a solvent used in brewing and it's yellow. Maybe some extra was in that vial?

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possible, it shouldn't be necessary in t400 but I could see it being used

Chemically speaking, EQ is injectable dbol (i.e. dbol without the methylation), but in practice they create a very different look, and orals generally drive more water retention than you'd expect on paper.
That being said, the main role of dbol in the classic stack was probably the conversion to estrogen, so any injectable aromatizable steroid (i.e. test or EQ) will be a reasonable substitute with less liver toxicity.

Not a pussy faggot I just want to get the most out of my cycle as possible since I only use gear for 3 months tops during the spring

I was looking at the stacks and it looks like 15-20mg of dbol/day and 100mg of primo/week seems to the be classic era standard which is basically most people's cruising levels these days, but I don't hate that.

That makes a lot of sense considering the low dosages of dbol (105-140mg/week), which would make a test/primo stack more preferable in the long run, while being less liver toxic and less bloatmaxx.

Anybody pin chest? Do you go straight in at 90° or sideways from the inner chest? Need more spots and quads are out.

You could be cruising right now though, which will build muscle and burn fat even without training.

Not necessarily, he may build muscle but it'll be not much next to the amount of water weight he'd bring on.

Glutes and ventro glutes.

I think test is just toxic shit at this point. I have have stopped running test higher than TRT level even when bulking. Anything above 200mg test e just bloats me the fuck up and I get a puffy face and my abs disappear. Even when I bulked with 150mg test and 500mg tren a/mast prop, the test would still bloat me up and give me a puffy face. For my summer cut I will completely drop test and replace it with 100mg Bayer primobolan and run high tren/mast/var.

Fair point.

Already doing those + delts. Would prefer 4 spots for ED.

I’m in the same boat. I’m running tren a and have been fucking this fat girl on and off for about 2 months.

He scammed you and got mad because you dared to call him out. He isn't your friend. Don't talk to him anymore. Buy juice online.

Give us an approximate body fat % or a picture, nigha

So the same problem as dbol, but less harmful on the liver?

I'd be looking to keep it low (probably around that 150mg range), since the weekly Primo is more the workhouse of the classic stack it seems.

Keep the test at 100-200mg/week then. The estrogen from test is important for things like producing IGF1 in the liver.

It's almost as if test isn't the gold standard steroid and needs to be present at all times.

anyone in korea?

I know that test is important during any cycle. I’m just reporting from personal experience that test isn’t my favorite roid. Test makes me lethargic, bloated, puffy, makes my veins and abs disappear and makes my stomach feel like shit after each meal. The BEST cycle I ever run was 6 weeks of 50mg winny and var ED and nothing else. I completely dried out, had unlimited energy, was extremely vascular and my abs were visible without flexing.