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Martial Art General.

Discuss fighting and training, share quarantine training tips, tell each other the pain of a closed gym will be over soon.

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Is there such a thing as 'too soon' for watching BJJ instructionals and DVDs? I have 6-7 months of experience, should I hold off on film study for now?

You'd probably be better served with private lessons. Ask your coach

How is boxing for self defense against larger opponents? I haven't seen many examples of larger inexperienced people fighting small skilled boxers. Also, does anyone know if it's possible for anyone to be able to knockout another person with proper practice or does it require punching power from genetics?

at what experience level would you recommened people to watch instructionals?

Disclaimer: I am noob 6 months like you

90% of the things I use during live rolling are from youtube videos, and I think there are some people I am progressing much faster than just because I watch videos and they don't

>How is boxing for self defense against larger opponents?
a good hook to the head or liver shot will put 95% of people down, no matter their size
> Also, does anyone know if it's possible for anyone to be able to knockout another person with proper practice or does it require punching power from genetics?
Within your own weight class, punching power comes mostly from technique. This may differ at the highest levels, but for beginners, don't worry about genetics. Go out there and learn to box right

I get youtube videos, but what about things like Danaher's video series? He's informative as hell, but can be very long winded

I mean danaher's pin and turtle escape stuff is perfect for beginners right
just watch that and not the leg lock stuff, don't wanna be a white belt leg locking your gym they'll get mad

Great, I'll get to the pins and turtle stuff later. I think I'll finish the straightjacket series first.

Ask your coach dawg. Maybe like 1-2 years.

Controversially, my coach doesn't like youtube stuff/instructionals. He thinks it might get in the way of the way he does things. That's what I heard at least

Is Rickson's body the ideal physique for BJJ? Or is something like Gordon Ryan or Galvao better?

>tfw gyms closed for the Chinese virus
Already gone stir crazy, got bored and hurt myself trying deadlift a building, can't even work out to stay in shape now. I'm going to stall so fucking hard...

Watching tape is never a bad thing, but be careful what you watch. I started watching a bunch of leg stuff as a white belt and while I took to it like a moth to flame I stalled on pretty much everything else and it took a long time to go fix that. Watch film on what you are doing and things that build from there, and practice like you're trying to learn. It's real easy to go learn some slick sub that catches a lot of white belts and stop all your progress if you're just looking for taps all the time. Be smart and your fine.

Mine didn't either

A good boxer is more than just a powerful puncher. Eyes, reflexes, cardio, instinct, when to punch, when to move etc. That's what separate a world class boxer from a regular boxer.
But such genetic consideration don't matter in your instance, however you should never bet on OHKO anyone for self defense.
Know some striking, know some wrestling (a little bit of experience in grappling is much more useful against an untrained person), and more importantly know how to not get into situations where you'd have to fight

As a connoisseur of fight porn I can defiantly say that knowledge is super important. The average person has no concept of how to slip a punch or even how close to somebody they have to be in order to actually hit them. This is why they resort to wild swinging which, if you know what you're doing, is easy as fuck to avoid.
It's always fun to see some lanklet chimp out and get btfo'd by a single punch.

well being that gordon or hulk would absolutely wreck prime rickson, id say theirs... but that said keenan, toonan, and craig jones arent that jacked (compared to GR and AG atleast) so make of that what you will

**** tonon

what would you advise BJJ athletes? Get as jacked as possible (Ryan/Galvao) or just be lean and conditioned (Cornelius, Giles)?

I WANT TO GO WORK OUT HOLY SHIT

I wanted to get my first boxing match soon-ish... that's not fucking happening. I can't even really do decent home workouts because I live in apt. my downstairs neighbors would go crazy after 3 days of shadowboxing

more muscle more immune to injuries imo

Even before the virus panic I've been jogging out to my local park to do sprints, shadow boxing, and calisthenics for my upcoming (maybe canceled?) first mma fight. Got anything like that nearby?

it's still -20 degrees here with either 10 inches of snow on the ground or 4 inches of ice. doing stuff outside is close to impossible

PRIME MINISTER OF MALAYSIA BAD

MARTIAL ARTS GOOD

Hehe

Doesn't matter all that much. Just limit yourself to one or two techniques from a single position at a time. Drill them, then try and pull them off while sparring. Once that works somewhat consistently, move on to more techniques until you have a solid game from a position. If something doesn't work at all, ditch it, find something else to work on, revisit later.

Tl;dr focus on a subject when watching videos, you'll improve faster.

Damn sorry to hear that man

I have my first tournament (BJJ) coming up in May, and I'm already nervous. Any tips on how to prepare?

BJJ got closed until April 1st, but probably gonna be a lot longer than that. Shame too I just joined a month ago and was loving it, idk what I'm going to do during my evenings now.
>pic related are drills my studio suggested doing

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Watch John Danaher fundamentals instructionals

Focusing on guard, guard passing, and guard retention as well as a strategy to pull, be pulled on and wrestle from the feet are the most important parts of point BJJ. But new people sucks, so just make sure you have good cardio and understand the rules.

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Does someone have video ressources on how I can Improve my grappling standing up ? Or anything really ?
I'm looking for youtube channels mostly but anything will do
I do buhurt (full contact medieval fighting) and we can't touch the ground with anything else than our feet, so Judo would be best I guess

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Fuck off lars

Excuse me ?

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BJJ is 99% learning different techniques from different positions and trying them in combination until one works
BJJ disciples will contest this and cry that it's actually so deep and instinctual and it's totally about concepts and feelings bro
Except that it's not really, or at best it becomes that at some point after brown belt.

Punchers are born. Not made.

You can increase your natural power with the right exercises, and good tech.

End of the day your frame and muscle composition determines how hard you hit.

If you want to be the small guy and win a fight?

Be WAY better than the other guy.

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>Punchers are born. Not made.

That's true in boxing, but boxing is a sport with a very specific set of rules.
In real life, there's nothing stopping you from learning how to superman elbow someone or headbutt them properly and it won't matter that you don't have the natural power to make it big in pro boxing, they'll still be knocked out cold.

There is still without a doubt evidence that natural power exists.

If you can make use from sheer brute force, then life will make that apparent to you.

Well before you are in a fight.

Boxing reveals this fact BECAUSE of how it can narrow the advantage of...

>Skill
>Height
>Intelligence

At the highest levels, most of these things are equal.

Especially things like frame, height ect.
Because you cannot get to the highest levels without...

-Technique
-Good training
-A smart strategy

When that equalization occurs?

We are left only as God made us.

Left only with Ourselves.

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what are the 'advantages' you see in BJJ scoreboards? I get points for guard passing and positions and such, but what is the 'advantage'?

hey /MAG/
I'm interested in learning a martial art, but want to know if i need to be at some particular level of strength/body ratios to start
I'm 191cm and 100kg, around 22%bf
My lifts are not nothing to boast of yet
Should i lose more fat before i can start? Or maybe reach 1/2/3/4 first?
I'm thinking about judo or boxing but am open to other suggestions aswell

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Watch any ufc fight prior to weight classes.

Small vs. Sumo = punching quick and moving away to keep distance until able to exhaust them and get TKO or exhaust then submit them through leg lock

One weight class down = trying to grapple and keep opponents down until they win by points (e.g. every Gracie fight)

Weight classes don't exist for safety, they exist to stop boring fucking fights.

Cool blog post, but the fact remains that if you trained any competitive, full-contact combat sport for an extended period of time, you can wreck the shit out of 99% of male population unless you're literally half their size.
Just having good distance control and some head movement gives you the ability to make utter fools of people trying to punch you. Add superior reflexes and the ability to fight intelligently that people who only fight in anger don't have and you can do what you want with them.
At street level, training is everything. You need to be very, very unlucky to get your ass kicked by a single random guy if you know your shit. Frame and height are entirely secondary.

Just fucking start. The conditioning and strength requirements are very different from lifting anyway, so there's little point in reaching a certain point in the gym and then going. You'll only put it off for eternity.
Just go to some trial classes, see which you like, and go and have fun.

blog posts have to be about the poster themselves

Lurk more.

>Also

>Only training matters in the Street

You sound like a short guy who has never been in a fight. Ring or otherwise.

You're a fucking idiot.

Are you a boomer?

>5'2" karate expert vs 6'0" bodybuilder
>oh gee wizz I'm sure she'll win! Based bruce lee!

I'm a short guy, who trained TKD, BJJ and a little bit of boxing and been in like 7 street fights and maybe 15 schoolyard fights.

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Just go. That is when shit gets back to normal.

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To be clear.
The only part of your post I disagree with is...

>you can wreck the shit out of 99% of male population unless you're literally half their size.
Just having good distance control and some head movement gives you the ability to make utter fools of people trying to punch you.

There are no magic bullets.
People who genuinely compete in boxing DO in fact have a big edge on the average joe.

Just training is not enough.

Good reflexes can only keep you from getting hit by ugly shots.

There is a reason we have weight classes.

Warriors exist in all walks of life.
Not just contact sports.

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nice blog post

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I'll take Stephen Thompson shrunk to 5'2 over any bodybuilder who never fought every time. Sure, it would be a very boring fight with a lot of circling and running around, but there's no way the bodybuilder would land a single good hit.

>they exist to stop boring fucking fights

Japan begs to differ. youtu.be/Mwg9hR0dpns

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As you said, once you hit a certain level and you're aware of certain principles, technique becomes secondary to them. That said, I've noticed that especially for escapes from tricky positions, knowing the correct technique to escape remains vital.

Almost scoring a point. For example, you pass or sweep, but your opponent turtles/reguards or gets up again before you can secure the position for 3 seconds will result in an advantage.

Quarantine BJJ bros better be doing your FUCKING movement drills

Ahh, ok. And can those advantages also determine the winner of a match? Say it's 2-2, but person A has 1 advantage and person B has 0, does A win then?

Which ones would you recommend? And how many sets/reps/time/whatever?

I wish I was easily assumed as you. simple things for simple minds I guess

>assumed
Tard

>tfw work at gym. Coach every night
>tfw gym is closed

Breh, this is a weird adjustment, I'm literally at the gym 12+ hours many days. Training 2+ times per day. Still a little work to do so I've been going in for a few hours and lifting, but fuck this. Guys, if you are missing your 3 BJJ classes a week you have no fucking idea.

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>Shrimpouts and shooting forward (as if for double/single leg) x 20 a side
>Lying on back and raising hips up above your face x10, then do the same thing but lock a triangle each side x 10/side
>Lying on your back and making tight leg circles with as much hip movement as possible for 60s. John Danaher calls this "pommelling" in his triangle vids.
>Sit-throughs x 30, so 15 a side
>Back, forward, and sideways shoulder rolls 5x/side
>Invert completely and walk your feet around your center of gravity like a clock. 1 minute.
>Do plank, arch holds, hollow, and L-sit for a minute each
>Bridge side to side, 10x/side

I am doing this plus barbell and gymnastic training with a quick 2 mile run thrown in for good measure. I'm off uni and bored as fuck so I have nothing but time to work out.

I train BJJ 10 sessions/week breh I feel it too.

what belts are you guys

>>tfw work at gym. Coach every night
How do I into this? I really want to coach in the future, or at the least work in a gym. What do I need to have/have accomplished to be able to do this for a living?

Brown, training maybe 8 years.

>Sit-throughs
is that like the butt scooting movement?

Yes, when points are equal, advantages determine the winner.

Purple, but declined being promoted because I have been unable to compete. Forever brown belt Judo too. Sandbagging hard I'm afraid.

Look on youtube

Gonna be honest here. I'm pretty fucking good at BJJ and have a fantastic guard, but I can't do that shit where you invert and put your toes on the mat over your head. I also don't have to fuck my back up by trying to get myself into that position. I can do bolos and pretty much any inverted technique too.

Shot a video of solo drills for my students today, will shoot more but honestly I'm not doing any of them. Have mostly just been doing Bouldering and gymnastic strength training+stretching.

I sort of just trained a lot, started assistant coaching (they do instructor coarse which I did). I think I sort of lucked out that they asked me to start working the desk and eventually accumulated more classes to assistant or fully coach as I worked there over time. You need to be dependable and not to weird to do this.

I really haven't competed much so no real accomplishments. Although, I am very good at BJJ. You have to realize that a lot of good BJJ coaches aren't amazing competitors and gyms need a lot of people to teach all levels. For instance, we have a bunch of blue belts teaching/helping teach beginner classes.

I don't make much money though, so it's probably not a viable long term plan. You could do it depending on where you work, what you do, maybe teach lots of privates or open your own gym. But that's not as easy to do as it sounds and honestly you might not even want to deal with the hassle. You have to deal with a bunch of fucking weirdos and crazy people if you want to work at/run a martial arts gym. We're internationally known and have produced a bunch of UFC champions and high level people in Muay Thai/kickboxing, grappling etc, so we really attract them. Seriously, I don't think you guys even know the kind of shit I have to deal with.

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>I am very good at BJJ
>I really haven't competed much so no real accomplishments

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Pretty sure it's just a solo sit out. Common in wrestling.

I agree man it's not necessary, but I have found I'm more comfy holding triangles when they stack because of it though. Maybe it's just placebo.

>you have to compete to be able to say you are good at BJJ

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I'm not against, it and wish I could do it, but my backs fucked up. I also don't really do triangles, or at least not the standard type from guard.

You think tiger woods coach is a better golfer than him?