Is krav maga a meme? is it worth the while?

combat sambo is basically mma but more retarded, stop trying to be that le big brain retard, it's not something super unique. Actually the guy from the UFC competed in the world sambo championship couple of months ago and he got the 2nd place and he has never practiced it, in the end he was beating the final guy too but the retard point system made him lost.

It's good if you're learning from someone who's actually trained in krav maga. Most instructors are meme tier. They mainly learned for a few months and somehow think they can teach it. Just learn mma

How would a takedown not work in real life, exactly?

You have those backwards.
OP good luck finding a legit instructor in the Western Hemisphere outside of NYC.
Also Krav Maga is all about killing or (permanently) disabling your attacker as quickly as possible.
Stick to a striking and a grappling. Boxing and judo are your best bet.

I've heard of classes that do full contact sparring (hard work/resistance). Unless they ALL decided to change and become women's self-defense kicking boxing class.

>beat someones ass
>lose
That's how Russia works comrade

don't be decieved, those so called full contact sparring session are just like point karate sparring, no real resistance is applied and the force you use is held back, you are welcome to try it if you don't believe me but is a waste of time, just go to a real combat sport gym.

nice commie numbers comrade, in mother russia even when you are winning you lose

Yes it’s a meme, y9ure way better of boxing, people here like to pretend boxing wouldn’t work in a street fight but those are just losers that have never trained

Wouldn't kickboxing be better for self defense though?

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>just do full contact sparring with eye gouges and kicks to the balls bro

Muslims. See several vids about knife attacks.

Depends. Kicks are easier to read and harder to recover your stance from.
Plus if they catch it you are fucked.

Quads of truth

No it wouldn’t, kicking hard and effectively for a fight is hard. Unless you wanna be a kick-boxer, just do boxing, punching and jiu jitsu is the king, that’s all you need.

>is krav maga a meme?
Today? Yes.

>is it worth the while?
Today? No.

It was really good 20 years ago when it was split between only two guys (Imi and Eyal). Now you have so many spin-offs it's not even real krav maga except for name.
t. my father was a co-founder of krav maga in my shitty country back in the late '90s.

You realize how good you’d have to be to effectively pull of a kick in a fight? You don’t just do 6 months of training and then throw kicks at people in street fights. Very dangerous, the explosiveness and power and speed you have to have to pull that off and get back to your stance, don’t be throwing kicks like you’re a pro, someone will grab your leg and take you down.

the main issue with bjj is it doesn't account for people fighting dirty/their friend stomping on your head

Jiu jitsu teaches stand up wrestling. One of the most effective ways of fighting in close quarters. It’s not all just rolling on the ground

You dont need to kick the head, just a flash roundhouse to the shin or knee is gonna drop you
> You don’t just do 6 months of training and then throw kicks at people in street fights
You're right tho, i think being able to defend youself has more to do with the fact you are used to get somewhat hurt and stay focused when in panic mode than the fact that you know how to kick/punch/whatever better

street fights are usually 1, max 2 punches and then it's over. the best thing to do is walk away.

How can you ask that question when MMA is as big as it is these days? Krav maga has always been suspected to be bullshit, it's almost exactly like practical aikido.

The best bang for your buck when it comes to self defense is bjj. It's the universal fighting language, you will always get fucked up by a guy who knows more bjj than you. It's also the only martial art that gets taught to elite law enforcement units.

If that is all your fighting style is you won’t do too well. The fundamental are far more effective that meme bullshit and should be drilled through contact sparing

>tried and true throughout the ages
>actually works
>applicable in real life situations
>highly tasteful and dignified
>perfect full body exercise
Yeah I'm thinking I'll stick to good old fashioned wrestling

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> the guy from ufc

Which one, from the 100s of fighters exactly?

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That pic is shit. the knifer guy has his other hands down, lmao, so you can just simpley full force in the chin, etc, but instead it goes for the shoulder for muh dislocation. Its like saying, hey we will teach you to defend yourself but with no blood involved, even against a knife. Thats why is bullshit for normies affraid of real violence

There should be a grip on knife holding hand in the first place, so the opponent shouldn't be able to do anything with it in the future, that's what original krav maga taught.
But now it's a meme and >muh israeli secret combat system cashcow

how do you do full contact sparring with eye pokes and nipple pinches you stupid fuck?

just join a mma gym. in mma fouling is basically legal so you can practice your eye pokes and groin kicks there as well. and mma wasnt designed just to beat up palestinian children either so its far more effective for "LETHAL SELF DEFENSE" for dumbasses who dont want to carry a knife or gun, or whatever

Quite literally a meme, dont bother with it unless you wanna kill children or something.

It's the only fighting sport worth your while if you don't enjoy touching other sweaty men or getting braindamage of repeated blows to your head. It's effective enough to fight of mudslimes and kebabs. No you will not have a chance fighting mma smoothbrains. All special forces train krav maga because of cc, knife and baton fighting. Don't get memed into a women self defence class

>is [martial art] worth it?
Here's a simple rule of thumb: do people in MMA tend to use the techniques of this system, and come from that particular background? If the answer is yes, then you should practice it, if the answer is no, then you shouldn't.

Don't listen to any excuses, that's all cope by people who have wasted their lives taking lessons in bullshit martial arts. And they're always the same excuses too: their fighting style is either too fucking lethal for MMA, or the ""real teachers"" are in the mountains of asia or the secret service, etc. While you look for the lengedary real instructors, a 16 yo practicing MMA twice a week in a subpar gym can heem someone who spent a decade training Aikido, Karate, Krav Maga, Taekwondo, etc.

Just be smart. When we're starting something it's easy to be attracted to unorthodox shit that you assume others have overlooked, and that's always a dumb impulse that leads you to waste years of your life because you wanted to be special. Just suck it up and join a MMA gym.

>buddy gives you the old knee kick or flying elbow to the back of the head

My buddy would stop his buddy.

I think it's a meme, but that image looks like a lot of techniques from old timey boxing books

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Its cool, it works aight.
Pick up boxing and some groundfighting too I guess is the meme if you want a more complete personal knowledge.
Think I'm gonna pick up kyokushin and some chinese martial art, not because its particularly effective self defense but do enjoy something about eastern arts, not sure how to describe it

Those dudes manage to have skinnier legs than me

If you don't train how you fight, your training is completely useless.
>b-b-but what about my super deadly special techniques that I'd never be able to effectively employ in a real world situation like gouging someone's eye?!
If you don't train how you fight, your training is completely useless.
>b-b-but what about my more common but still damaging attacks like groin kicks?!
If you don't train how you fight, your training is completely useless.

There's a reason that boxing and MMA both do full-contact sparring. They wear safety gear and have a system of tapping to indicate giving up so they don't hurt each other too much, but they are still hurting each other. If you aren't training how you fight, your training is completely useless. Stop the meme bullshit eye gouges and XYZ-holds and ninja reverse flip kicks, practice your fundamentals like balance, movement, and coordination, learn how to throw a punch, learn how to break a fall and get up off your back, and learn when its time to fucking run, and you will already know more than 99% of what you need to survive damn near any fight. Add a firearm into it and learn what you need to make space and keep it, and you know the final 1%. You better be training you goddamn cardio, too. The fattest fuck in fighting still has better cardio than you. Fat shits win one-on-one bar fights and school brawls, they don't win when they get jumped by more than one person and cannot retreat effectively.

Yes. It's whole point in the actual military is to train aggression and pushing you towards the danger instead of away. The shit taught in dojos is a fucking joke.

100% meme. The Israelis don't use Krav Maga against knife wielding muslims, they use guns.

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highly recommend shorinji kempo if there's a branch near you

Did a quick read and it seems kind of up my alley, thanks user

>is krav maga a meme?
As it's commonly taught, yes it is.
>is it worth the while?
For israeli military yes, for you no.

The issue is that there are three kind of km:
the first kind is the military km: it's basically mma + firearm cqc drills - you don't need it and I doubt you can find teachers anyway
the second kind is serios civilian gym km: for all intents and purposes way overpriced mma with little partecipation to competitions - just pay half for a proper mma gym
the third kind is mcdojo km: basically aikido/ninjutsu tier snake oil refluffed for a militaryboo audience - avoid at all costs

>retard doesn't know what a takedown is
user, If someone can do a takedown on you, they can slam you into the concrete.

Not training is the worst decision. Whichever thing you choose, just dont take the "this is the only way" pill. Avoid the quasi-religious teachers. Dojo syndrome is fatal. Train in multiple styles, theres good shit in everything. Don't pay out the nose. Too much talking from your teacher is a bad sign too.

What else did I miss?

I always thought stuff like that was a great way to get your opponent to stomp your brain into the street. If someone is better than you, you poke him in the eye in a scuffle, he will now kill you. If I remember correctly, Bas rutten thought the same. Also, what makes people think the other guy won´t also bite your nutsack? In the end, kike maga seems like a giant pile of shit for unathletic jews

6 months of jiu jitsu and 6 months of boxing or muay thai will put you ahead of 99% of guys on the planet
It depends. I think low kicks are pretty easy to pull off and come in handy. People almost never expect or check them, plus most guys are terrified to close distance.

The last "street fight" I was in, I just kicked the guy's shins into oblivion until he switched stance then ran off down the street and called an ambulance. He was in shorts and I was in heavy boots though

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Any gym that doesn't do full contact sparring with active resistance is a rip off.

people always bring this up as an argument against having grappling as your main skill but this almost never actually happens unless you get swarmed by a pack of niggers in which case only a big iron will save you anyway.
almost every time people fight its a 1 on 1, if they have friends nearby they might not let you choke them out completely but this "bro youre gonna get sockerkicked when youre snapping his elbow dude" never actually fucking happens lol
in any case, if youre fighting multiple people only the best mma fighters (which random /fit browsers trashing literally THE most essential skillset in modern gladiator fighting are not) can make striking work to the point that they can handle multiple people intent on fucking you up for longer than 5 seconds. if youre about to get attacked by a group and they look like theyre all gonna jump in you just fucking run away lmfao, at least if you train grappling you can slam an untrained fag onto concrete in 2 seconds and disengage, this le epic 1-2 punch KO strangers bullshit doesnt work unless youre literally top 1% strikers, which, once again, youre not. anyone who has trained a good grappling art for longer than 6 months and isnt an unfit slob can RAPE people who dont grapple, the same doesnt go for striking.

yeah and they sucked shit at fighting hand to hand lol