Tfw the entire plot of this game could be resolved by a simple conversation explaining each character's grievances

>tfw the entire plot of this game could be resolved by a simple conversation explaining each character's grievances
"i'm going to kill you, joel, because you killed my father, an innocent doctor for the fireflies"
"your father kidnapped ellie, trying to take her brain out. i did what i had to do to save this girl. i'm sorry for killing your father, but this was the only way"

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but that wouldn't be interesting at all and would take away from the CYCLE OF REVENGE story that druckmann was trying to tell

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you're thinking of reasonable characters and non-conflictive dialogue
doesn't exist in sony games

no. because then we wouldnt have a videogame >:(

i love cycle of being unreasonable lol

But Joel is in the right here

you think she has any mental capacity to think after the hormone treatment?

i mean yeah, he did what he had to do to prevent ellie from being killed. the fireflies didn't even ask him to give up ellie, they just took her from him.

You don't get the meta. They are fighting because of the sins of the old white cis man.

Is the Ellie boss fight at least fun? The highlight in TLoU for me was fighting David. Man that entire boss fight had me tense as fuck.