Who got it worse?

Brainlet opinion, chief

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Time travel fuckery in the last 3 Terminator movies have screwed over John but he never died to a tranny.

Honestly, somebody needs to make a compilation video of all this shit on YouTube. It's the only way to redpill normies, if they see the concerted media effort to kill all white male icons in one self-contained video. It's too disparate and easily dismissed otherwise.

hell yeah broethor

>He could have saved humanity
t.ranny doctor

They butchered every hint of immunized people in hopes of stumbling into the cure. They had no idea if decapping Ellie would even solve anything, that's why. And it's all on logs IN THE GAME, which you didn't bother to read or listen, apparently

They're both straight white males who are no longer allowed to be portrayed in a protagonistic light and are erased from the franchise by the most petty, unnecessary means possible. They essentially share the same fate.

>The last 3 terminator movies
>Canon
user...

Reddit post, queer.

John. I can't feel sorry for Joel because he not only doomed humanity, but he killed everyone that with knowledge to do so as well.

what else could be leaked when everything has already been leaked?

>only doomed humanity
Did you even read the logs and transcripts on the Firefly base? They weren't even near a cure, not even with Ellie.

That's why they had to experiment on Ellie right? Give insight into why the virus wasnt killing her.

>experiment
Exactly, it was an EXPERIMENT, not a CURE like they had promised. Their own logs demonstrate they had no idea if it would work or not and guess what, Joel wasn't about to let them do that, even if they managed to goad silly ol' Ellie to suicide.

Kill an immune person to maybe gain insight on the fungi, or let it disseminate thru normal reproduction? Nah, let's make Ellie gay.
It's a case of the writers trying to unfuck the wall they wrote themselves into.

It's not an easy question, first we have to take into account the intricacies of both settings, and the situation botWHERE IS SARAH CONNOR

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Honestly John got it worse. T6 with muh strong female characters actually made the only 2 good Terminator movies pointless

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john the first two terminators are actually good don't get me wrong tlou wasn't as bad as Yas Forums makes out to be it's just a mediocre game that normies blew out of proportion

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the fireflies would give the baby to a higher class woman, claim it was hers and use the baby for propaganda. watch children of men.

Yeah, but he didn't have to kill everyone with the knowledge to do it. Also, how do you think humans make advancements in medicine. You do know that there was a huge leap in medical knowledge thanks to the Germans and Japanese during WWII, right?

>killed in T3
>turned into a cuck in Salvation
>killed in and turned into a bad guy in Genisys
>killed in Dark Fate

I'm kinda used to John being fucked at this point, to be honest.

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>turned into a cuck in Salvation
What?
Where?

This. This right here. Luke Skywalker was a hero to an entire generation and they turned him into a complete failure and killed him off. Fuck Disney.

Every movie after T2 is not canon

Not a literal cuck but he was cucked out of the lead role by Sam fucking Worthington of all people.

>killed in T3
No he wasnt

>You do know that there was a huge leap in medical knowledge thanks to the Germans and Japanese during WWII, right?
I don't think this helps the doctor's point lol