A bit late to the party, but I'm playing this for the first time. Skyrim and Oblivion are boring fantasy tropes compared to this, goddamn. What went wrong?
A bit late to the party, but I'm playing this for the first time...
Lincoln Brown
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Brayden Gray
Joseph Carter
neat
Jeremiah James
Everything about this game is amazing, but the combat could have been better. And I'm saying that as someone who liked Daggerfall's combat a lot. That game had similar calculations being done before every swing, but maybe it was the abilty to "swing" your sword with a mouse movement that made it feel more fun? Morrowind just feels like a game of chance with every attack, especially when at low levels.
Jack Brooks
Contrarianism.
Morrowind is also full of fantasy tropes.
Christian Rogers
To be fair Arena and Daggerfall were boring fantasy tropes too
Robert Thomas
Because Todd is a brainlet
>It went 180 with Oblivion. Because Peter Jackson’s Lord of the Rings was coming out, and it was fucking great. And since technology had come so far, Todd was like, “We’re gonna make that. We’re gonna go back to traditional fantasy.” And that’s cool. Oblivion was rad.
Jason White
Did you read the books in Morrowind that describe what Cyrodill and the Imperial City were originally supposed to look like?
William Green
they fired Krikbride
Easton Phillips
RIP
Luis Sullivan
Kirkbride was never fired. He left over creative differences. He's still on good terms with Bethesda and still freelances for them. For example:
michaelkirkbride.tumblr.com
Even though 90% of this was cut from Skyrim, ESO just made it all canon.
Nicholas Allen
whatever, fired or scared off with generic shit being forced on him
Tyler Stewart
Yea I dont play it for the epic combat. Just like wandering around in the world and doing random shit
Noah Carter
It's still 100x more creative in it's world building and how different things look. Even the races look a lot more different
Jordan James
nope. what was the original idea?
Caleb Smith
Jungle Cyrodiil with a Venice/Tenochtitlan-like Imperial City with whole neighborhoods on bridges. The Colovian and Nibenese would actually have distinct cultures and not just be a soulless cash grab riding off the success of LotR.
Tyler James
I don't understand the praise this game gets. Explain it to me.
Noah Campbell
>jungle
Fuck the jungle.
Carter Cruz
It’s fun so it gets praise.
Ethan Harris
The jungle really should only be in southern Cyrodiil near Black Marsh
Ayden Long
Cyrodil was supposed to be a tropical rainforest and Imperial architecture was something like Imperial Rome mixed with Ancient China and Medieval Venice.
You will notice that in Oblivion, there are some weirdly Asian elements hastily thrown in to the Empire, especially with the Blades.
It was them paying lip service to what was originally supposed to be a much more eclectic, excotic, and bizzare take on the Empire. They realized that they couldn't just completely abandon the asiatic elements so they just threw in meme samurais in the form of the Blades to lessen the fan backlash I guess.
Grayson Martin
It kills me how zoomers don't see this. Oblivion is so generic and absolutely ruined what morrowind did for worldbuilding.
Grayson Morris
>to lessen the fan backlash I guess
Well it didn't matter because nonfans of the series ate Oblivion up
Nathaniel Lopez
I still miss text-based dialogue menus. It allowed you to talk to every NPC in the game (even if many didn't have too many unique options). I admit its hard to modernize it, Oblivion tried having it voiced and becomes more noticeable that everyone sounds the same. Skyrim meanwhile just didn't give a fuck and most NPCs don't interact with you.
Bentley Phillips
Yes. That be said, I think the climate in TES is a mess. I can understand wanting to make provinces stand out, but they should not just be theme parks. Have sensible climate zones on top of the creative flora and fauna, architecture.
Oliver Perez
>Cyrodiil was a tropical jungle until Talos deleted the jungle with his mind
Kevin Lewis
The ''fun'' to me just sounds like nostalgia. Same way that there are a lot of Oblivion nostalgia threads around here.
Aiden Bell
This happened
James Johnson
wasnt this even present in oblivion? i distinctly remember leyawiin having those weirdo trees and the general area being a dark, saturated green and there being those gross, humid rivers that eventually lead into the invisible wall border of black marsh
Samuel Ortiz
Yes, somewhat. Oblivion actually tried to give varied climate. Skyrim tried to do that too, but I dislike that a lot of it is covered in tundra.
Landon Smith
The designs below look so akkadian. I also remember Kirkbride saying Gilgamesh was what inspired The Song of Pelinal. Would have been an interesting direction to take.
Kayden Price
>kirkbride struggled with depicting nords as something other than stereotypical vikings