Why are Souls series and clones (Bloodborne, Nioh, Sekiro) so popular...

the only tryhard thing is this bait

simply because failure is possible, which isn't the case in any other modern game unless you have sub-room temperature IQ

What do you mean by "semi hard"?
Care elaborating more?
Also list games you played and you consider "true hard".

You're not funny.

>the leveling up system is a numbers treadmill much like Destiny or AC Odyssey

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Create a tank build and facetank your way to the end.

are they? bloodborne and sekiro sold around 2-3 million worldwide. when you look at the statistics that around 30% of the playerbase actually finishes the game, which means many causals buy them out of curiosity and give up because they don't git gud.

the fanbase is simply extremely committed and keep playing them over and over and over, which is something very rare for a single player game

As an adamant fan, I think it comes down to that feeling you get when you actually succeed at something. When I'm up against a Souls boss like Manus or Gael or OoK, I can feel my blood rushing and my heart pounding, I have the sensation of life flowing through me. Going toe-to-toe with Genichiro atop Ashina Castle, every deflection gets me more and more into the groove, and even though I die, and die I do, over and over and over, the rush that hits when you finally stick your Zweihander up Manus' ass, when your Saw Cleaver hacks off OoK's flesh, when you jam your straight sword in Gael's face and when you shove your katana through Genichiro's neck, there is no rush to compare. I personally can't play CoD, don't have the reflexes, yet these "hard' games I'll play over and over, because no matter how hard they are, it only makes the rush that much greater

never got a rush from their games, just beat the boss and move onto the next one

SpaceChem is hard.
Dark Souls is the slow version of bing bing wahoo. Almost all other dodge simulators no matter the genre nomenclature are harder. Dark Souls is just painfully slow which makes failure more of a chore. The game is not hard, it is unforgiving.
When dying, instead of taking 1/100 of a second to go back to the start of the action sequence, you have to go through a 10 second 'you die' animation followed by unoptimized reloading the level in engine followed by a stroll of one minute from the last bonfire to the first point of possible death.

The best part is none of those replies will be a solid answer.

Don't compare Nioh to Souls, it actually has fun gameplay.

That opening sentence showed your true face. Please leave gaming forever.

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>>Puzzle game
Okay user you just a troll.

Seethe

this, by the end if i died to a boss i just ran by 30 monsters to try again, very annoying

Go to bed.

fake difficulty that causes reviewers to shill them as "hard"
same resaon the "roguelikes" are popular
reviewers shill them despite them being buggy and unbalanced pieces of shit

play something like Metal Gear Rising or Nioh if you want good combat

>causals buy them out of curiosity and give up because they don't git gud.
Or maybe because there are better games to play that aren't so anal? In any other game, this dated gameplay wouldn't fly.
>narrow ledges to fall off the map
>you getting staggered by regular old enemies
>super dark hallways where you are the only one who can't see
Seriously this is 90s gameplay made popular because muh difficulty. Would it kill them to have a grab ledge button so the game isn't filled with cheap deaths?

>bing bing wahoo
But Souls isn't a Mario game.

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Ok

True hard but fair and non cheap games? Off the top of my head
>Ninja Gaiden
>God of War
>Doom Eternal
>R6 Siege (online)

>>narrow ledges to fall off the map
This one is bullshit but
>>you getting staggered by regular old enemies
No problem. Don't get cocky when you fight and you won't get punished
>>super dark hallways where you are the only one who can't see
Bring a torch

NOOOOOOOO! I need the sun, pic you posted is literally you

user is simply asking about games that are hard.
Besides all games are 'puzzle' games if you aren't a brainlet and can abstract their mechanics. The genre called puzzle simply doesn't pretend to immerse you into another world.
The core 'puzzle' of Dark Souls is simplistic, it is just very slow and the rare occasional mistake makes you start a 10 minutes section from scratch including 5 minutes of walking simulation. I get the feeling of working on an assembly line making basic operations but any small mistake (if only just caused by the boredom) can make me lose a lot of time.

>any small mistake (if only just caused by the boredom) can make me lose a lot of time.
this is an exaggeration and you know it. the game gives you plenty of room to fuck up and recover.

>just beat the boss and move onto the next one
That's not how FromSoft games work.

>brings back gameplay to the forefront

The gameplay is literally just trial and error. I'm not sure why people act like the game requires any type of effort other than full on autism. The gameplay is the equivalent of Super Meat Boy. Precision and trial and error. The games have never brought anything new to the table.

Probably because it's more common in games to make failures less likely to happen. Having a game that is trial and error is interesting compared to that.

They are fun games

yeah, i forgot to add i had to pull some levers before facing the next boss, im sure its crucial information, yes i did play dark souls and i finished it, dont try implying otherwise

>trial and error
having the reaction time to dodge and being able to watch attack animations requires zero error

>clunky
>some of the most precise controls in any game ever once you learn how to use a controller
its like saying a formula racer is clunky because you keep spinning out in it