I'm still mad

this user’s making some pretty good points

Well, the number is not that accurate but it's not wrong.

Tommy's dead on the ground too
youtube.com/watch?v=IsGLCxE2QLI

>For protecting his adoptive daughter

Kill yourself jackass.

That’s a vid of her hitting him in the shoulder tho. Why does no one have the killshot? I’ve seen the pic of Ellie at the grave stone so it has to be out there somewhere.

where does this show him die? yeah hes getting beat real bad with a golfclub but where is the evidence he dies here? is there a leaked script as well?

In the trailer there's a gunshot when they're holding Ellie down I think the dude she punched shoots him

You think? So literally none of this shit has actually been confirmed ... ?

He definitely dies there's a screenshot of his grave

Rent free

The only “evidence” I’ve seen is the pic of Ellie at Joel’s grave. Not saying it didn’t happen, I literally have no stake in this. I’m not crazy about zombie shit and I’ve never even played the first game. But I’m starting to get a little suspicious.

the future is female (formerly male)

Mhm. Assuming that screenshot’s real, you have evidence that Joel dies at some point in the game. How are you all so sure that the tranny dyke thing kills him then you play as her for the rest of the game? Just starting to wonder if you guys might be getting ahead of yourselves.

For the record, I don’t really give a shit either way and my gut instinct is that you guys have it right. Just wondering where this is all coming from when the actual evidence seems pretty thin.

>he is the bad guy!!!!
>he doesn't want to save a world that is already doomed and filled with degenerates!!!
>he is acting selfish instead of being a selfless puppet!!
OK spooks

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All good points, but for a total outsider like me that’s what’s making this Joel character sound layered and interesting.

There's a screenshot of it. He is definitely dead. That's why Druckmann's pissed of the leaks cuz now people now Joel, Tommy, and Ellie die Confirmed on sreenshot, video, and writing format if u need source-- too lazy to dig it up now

People just want to believe so hard that the entertainment industry is owned by jewish people and for some random fucking arbitrary reason jewish people want society to feel really strongly about specific types of people that have no relations to jewish people. They apparently want you to love trannies and black dudes, definitely in no way Yas Forums retards supressing homosexuality and racism, no way.

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How ignorant can you be?

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NOT CANON

the word cuck has lost all of its meaning

I mean I believe you but I’d still like to see the screenshot or a video. And not just the screenshot of the grave. All I’m saying is a lot of very specific claims have been made, and in all of the threads I’ve scrolled through I haven’t seen evidence for many of them.

Tbh I don’t even know why I’m interested in this. The reaction to this is kind of making me want to check out the first game. It came with my PS4 but I only ever made it a few hours in before I got bored.

thats the point, he is being punished like he is the next hitler when it reality he was just a dad that lost his daughter once already and did not want that to happen again...
but every single one of these NPC's are convince that cuz he not do the better thing he deserves to be beaten down and killed.

Porn and high interest loans. Shut up and be grateful, goy

How autistic can you be? Calm down and read my posts again. Just saying that all I’ve seen is a screenshot of Joel’s grave and that clip of him getting whacked in the arm. That’s exactly how ignorant I am, sperg.

Deserving to live isn't enough. That's a big theme in a lot of apocalyptic stories.

He sounds like an awesome and controversial character, but imo that doesn’t mean he should have plot armor. Killing off awesome characters can be the right choice for a story sometimes, right?

disgusting

>didn't die like an absolute legend taking out some big fuck

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>user asks where does it show him die
>gets same old pic of him dead and buried
Okay but where does it show him die?

>every character needs to have a heroic death or the story is shit
this is your brain on videogames

not to mention those doctors had already failed 27 subjects before ellie so there's no knowing if they even knew how to create a cure out of her

>sacrificing the world for a single person

You first, fairy boy.

yes, but you gotta do it right you know. a death for the sake of shock value means nothing. exactly the same reason the new star wars trilogy kinda sucks gorilla dick

>destroys established developer from the inside
>okay guise, see you later!

What a great guy.

I’m starting to think you have a point. This is starting to resemble Yas Forums sperging out because a story didn’t go the way they thought it would, triggering autist rage. Aka the same thing that just happened with Yas Forums autists and FF7.