Remember that trailer of Halo 5?

It's pretty fucking stupid that some marketing team somewhere got the wrong memo and marketed Halo 5 completely wrong. Fucking corporate retards.

>And even still, Halo fans don't even like Locke
Shitposting aside, is there an actual problem with Locke as a character that makes him unlikeable, or is it because he's attached to a game regarded as shitty. I'm about to start my Halo marathon, and this time intend to play the post-Bungie games.

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He made the same mistake Arbiter made in 2, stealing Chief's spotlight, you just don't do that.

I liked Arbiter and Chief though.

this thread is apparently too high iq for you to understand. your dumbass brain must be the reason why the rest of us look bad

I didn't like Arbiter or the Covenant sections are first too, but he grew on me after awhile.

arbiter was actually interesting though

locke is just some boring bootlicker faggot

There's no real problems with him, the Halo 5 campaign was kind of a train wreck overall and he was a casualty of that.

get ready to read the fucking wiki to understand anything that happened between Halo 4 and 5, the game doesn't tell you shit.

Wow you really are retarded
Big symptom of autism is being unable to pick up on subtext btw

the op is literally making fun of sony and tlou by saying that halo 5, even in being the worst of the series with really retarded story choices, didn't go as far as to butcher its main characters for the sake of MUH SUBVERTED EXPECTATIONS
how are you so stupid that you can't pick up on this

because he's a fucking resident schizo and he comes to every halo thread calling everyone a sonyfag

I wish he was trolling but he just isn't

Don't get me confused with that retard. He was too stupid to read the OP.

Here, I will split up the Halo player characters for you.
>The Chief (The Chief)
- described as a self-insert, but I actually disagree with this a bit
- written to be good at coinciding with player feelings/opinion, stoic one-liners common but not above sarcasm or jokes
- crux of the story, when something happens it's either happening to Chief or he's making it happen
>Void Self-Insert (Rookie, Noble 6)
- genuine self-insert where they have no personality, and in one case no dialogue, to interfere with your weird fan-fiction
- usually not the focus of the story. In cutscenes Noble 6 is often a passive observer standing in the background as Noble Team interacts with other characters or each other. Rookie jumps perspective into Nathan Fillion and the rest of Alpha-Nine who are allowed to talk
>Defined Character (Arbiter, Locke)
- not a self-insert in any form, given backstory and more character-specific goals/personalities
- they are the focus of their portion of the story, but mileage may vary depending on quality of writing - many people find Arbiter compelling, have yet to find someone with similar praise for Locke

When it came to Arbiter he got the same level of hate as Locke to the point he got sidelined hard in Halo 3, only lore fans fell in love with him because they like that kind of shit.

People grew to love Arbiter eventually

Technically, it's just lore fans, everyone else didn't care that much about him.

Off the top of my head, Chief is a beloved hero who we'd been following for (if my math is right) for about 13 years up until that point. In every game, Chief was a hero who fought against insurmountable odds to protect others and always unwaveringly did the right thing. We'd gone through an entire journey with him and Locke was a new character that, from the marketing, made it seem like he was being positioned to be Chief's replacement. We'd already seen Locke in Halo 2 Anniversary at that point so there was very real concern that he was just going to be the protagonist going forward.

Joel has been in one game. In that one game, he was an amoral thug who only ever did what benefited him the most in the moment. He killed, lied, tortured and stole and it's implied that he's been doing a ton of that stuff for a very long time.

Chief is a beloved old protagonist. Joel is a shmuck.

Joel and Ellie were a solid father daughter duo
Seeing Joel die and then Ellie be brutalized beyond recovering is nerve wrecking

It's pretty much just 5 being a bad game with bad writing. Everybody in Osiris is fine as a concept, hell, Buck is one of the most beloved characters in the series and he's a complete nobody in 5.

Arbiter was a victim of a very bad first impression. People expected Halo 2 to be a fight for Earth and jumping away from that to play as the Arbiter in insanely boring, repetitive Flood levels killed the momentum of the game and really fucked with people who had been expecting something COMPLETELY different from the way the game had been marketed. The first two times you play as Arbiter in Halo 2 are a fucking slog.

But by the time you get to the Gravemind and the Elites have been betrayed, he becomes much, much more compelling and his levels become a lot more fun and he definitely had earned his spot in the game and in the series.

Arbiter was kino

He's black

Problem after that though was Brutes weren't fun to fight, the Elites save them in Gravemind but after that the Brrutes just end up being terribly unfun.

The Hype for this game made it seem like Master Chief had done something unforgivable,
Turned his back on humanity,
Gone Full Terrorist and Locke was sent to hunt him down.

When in fact, he just went AWOL,
after being MIA for years.
Not only did he go AWOL, he went with his whole squad of spartan 2s, who had been just off doing fuck knows what since the end of the war.

Seriously they shouldn't have gone so hard on the "We have to have teams of 4 otherwise how can we multiplay"

Should've made the Spartan 2s bigger and more powerfull and the Spartan 4s had fancier armour and abilities.

When Chief and Locke went toe to toe Chief should've put him on the ground in seconds, Dude has had a lifetime of war and the Spartan 2s were more powerful than the 4s.