Which one of you stinky brainers said HE was the most useless?

which one of you stinky brainers said HE was the most useless?
this dude has saved my entire squad every mission. jump jet, explosion strike, and grenade throw, perfection. I use all melee in all my squads, everyone maxes out hp and I play only on the most difficult of difficulties. I said I would prove you wrong you stinky brain user. I told you. I'm doing it. I'm proving you WRONG anonymous.

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cyrus specialized in stealth and explosives is far, far more effective than thaddeus. cyrus can do some bullshit solo-the-entire-map type shit like Alicia in Valkyria Chronicles. it's not that thaddeus is bad, it's just that he really is the weakest option for your team.

Thad is moderately useful in vanilla, but he becomes an actual monster in Chaos Rising. Like he teleports in and then the entire screen fucking explodes. But that expansion was all sorts of silly.

I just downloaded DOW 2 and both expansions and I'm just starting to play through the campaign mode, any tips for a noob?

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Can someone tell me what happened in this scenario? It happened years ago but it stuck in my mind:

>Playing Chaos Rising with a friend
>We get to the last mission
>I spend the entire preamble up to the final boss talking about how difficult he was, super fucking tanky and how I had to run away multiple times
>My friend runs up and hits him twice, using what I believe is the sword with the 10% chance to instantly destroy vehicles
>He dies

It was utterly baffling.

Least good is clearly Avitus

>give avitus aegis of hurios and pitiless lance of vengeance
>he can now just walk up to groups of enemies or vehicles and annihilate them by firing rockets at his feet
i still say thaddeus is the worst. nobody is bad, but there is little reason to pick thaddeus unless you really like assault marines, because the rest of the team can already do his job in one way or another

Imperium's fucked lads. Erryone out.

>that FC skill that makes spikes of rock erupt from the ground behind him when he charges

God-Emperor's chosen tier: Cyrus
>can literally solo entire missions on his own without breaking a sweat, extremely high DPS output, can quickly deal with an elite enemy unit

Primarch tier: Tarkus
>ultra tanky, decent DPS, invincible to most damage and can revive your bros or throw grenades for day

The Chapter's finest tier: Force Commander (terminator armor), Davian Thule (ranged)
>tanky, very high damage output, good abilities

Venerable Battle-Brother tier: Jonah Orion, Avitus (rocket mode), Thule (Melee)
>good DPS and fun abilities, but unfortunatly outclassed by everyone else because they're not tanky enough/lack versatility

Battle-Brother tier: Thaddeus
>good guy with a fun gimmick, but everyone is just better, and you don't want him to dive in melee because he's so fragile

"The fuck are you doing" tier: FC without power armor, Cyrus without a Sniper

Get good with Cyrus, he can solo missions pretty much. It's been years since I played the campaign, so I only have very vague memories of what skills were good, but I think cyrus had his good stuff in the bottom row, the one that lets him use shit for just energy rather than having charges.
Also when you get the dreadnought just use it as an assault cannon platform, that ability it has clears half a screen on use, including nasty synapse dudes like Zoanthropes.
Tarkus has a skill that lets him be immortal, it's pretty good.
Just try shit out and try to enjoy yourself, I don't remember the campaign being hard at all at lower difficulties.

What happened to him in Retribution?

retribution and dow3 arent canon

Went together with commander Vanilla Ice to the Eye of Terror. The canonical CR ending is the bad-neutral one, where you get sent on a penance crusade.

Dow 2 isn't canon.

press "x" often. it's your fallback button.

Avitus is the traitor, Hair Gel and Thaddeus get slightly corrupted and go on a penance in the Eye of Terror because clearly, the chapter can afford it, Tarkus gets booty-blasted he couldn't save his BFF and becomes mute

Seriously fuck the Imperium and fuck Gabe, the only way for the Marines to have fun is to go corrupt, even the corrupted Marines in DoW2 treat their guardsmen better than Gabe treats his men.

So what's canon in DoW as of right now?

DOW3 makes it clear the space marine ending to Retribution was canon

The only notable change made by DoW3 is revealing that Macha is a total qt and that Gorgutz won Soulstorm.
Nothing else happened in that game.

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ASSAULT MARINES TAKING HEAVY LOSSES

Joining the forces of chaos, you in?

Sounds like something an undercover inquisitor would say.

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I love the idea of Blood Ravens being Thousand Sons Successors.

No, I'm being serious here. Come on lets join Thousand Sons together.

>Not joining Alpha Legion

Do you even Alpharius?

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The developers had some sort of semi-chub for Cyrus. I never found him that amazing. It's a lot simpler and quicker to just bust in with Tadd and FC, set up Avitus and throw grenades with Tarcus.
While the explosives of Cyrus are good, there's not much need for them once you have advanced grenades, melta grenades, artillery beacon and some actual weapons on your dudes.

He's a great sniper on Tyranid missions however. I love making Synapse creatures go pop.

Alright, I'll join.
When I wake up I'll look for you. Since we'll both be dust in suits of armor, I'll do a funny dance so you know it's me.

Ew. Get lost smelly nerd, take a shower before Nurgle starts thinking you're one of his guys.

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The Neverending Hail of Devastation is the best weapon on him. It pumbs up his damage so far that you can even use it all the way through CR. No reloading...

>The Neverending Hail of Devastation
Man, that made me remember that I actually made a full Heavy loadout in TF2 styled after Avitus. Strange minigun with that name, sandwich named after the whatever the health pack was called and GRU named after some purity seal that increased movement speed I think. All with white hair and a metal jaw.

I want to be a Dark Eldar and pretend I'm the green goblin.

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you put the blighted bolter on cyrus and make him melee with the rest of your dudes all spec'd for melee.

>blighted bolter
>cyrus
Disgusting. That bolter is for Tarkus and Tarkus only. Pretty sure he'd fuck it if his dick still worked.