>church bad >drunken and fornicating dissident priest good >many women are portrayed as held back by society around them >sleeping with whores has only positive outcomes >defying established traditions is portrayed as more positive than negative
no/low racial diversity = right wing such are the times
Austin Wood
>>church bad It is bad. But doesn't this game shill christcuckoldry?
Josiah Martin
only because that shared faith is the backbone of their holy empire
Jacob Jenkins
no you openly spout heresy in the game
Nicholas Nguyen
I guess it's optional, but it's quite clear that devs are secular and think Jan Hus was more in the right than Catholic church.
Zachary Diaz
I think you're missing some historical context, especially the regional context of Hussite reformation ambitions (before Martin Luther did his thing) as well as the Bohemians and Morovians being dicked on by Habsburgian HRE.
Carter Collins
No niggers. Even if this game was Dragon Age tier hard gay, it still would have been getting heat because there are no niggers. Race question is much more important that various gay progressive shit, and progressive shit itself was mostly created to help pushing niggers, because niggers are used as literal biological weapon against populations, and other sorts of poz are merely means to soften it up before use of niggers.
Dylan Watson
>be jewish >invent spinoff religion to force on and infect goy nations with >over one thousand years later make video game shitting on the institutions formed under that religion to get the goyim hating their own Fucking kikes.
Kayden Young
Have you been living under the rock? Christianity is out of trend, Marxism is new hip abrahamic religion.
Stay mad Cathocuck. Go suck some pope dick and fuck some choirboys.
Blake Parker
>Implying Catholicism hasn't been a cancer for the majority of its existence.
Luis Bennett
Lets not forget >germans bad
Isaiah Jackson
Well they’re central asian so yeah
Jace Thompson
seems pretty accurate to me. history is largely made pretty and romantic and given some rose tinted goggles, especially for the religiously raised >church bad generally the church was out to fuck you for money or donations or even land if you had property to fuck out of, with some goodwilled clergy that would help the very fucking poor with no property >drunken and fornicating dissident priest good yeah, pretty common for priests to just play the part for the perks, same as a number of them do today, doesn't necessarily mean they're bad people either though >many women are portrayed as held back by society around them sounds about right >sleeping with whores has only positive outcomes not sure on this one, where are the STDs? bar those, yeah it's probably fine and positive >defying established traditions is portrayed as more positive than negative it generally is, if we didn't defy tradition we'd still be cavemen bashing things with rocks and sticks the society portrayed in game is pretty right-wing given these traits, how you play your character is up to you lmao
Landon Lopez
Americans don't know what 'right wing' means. Their political parties don't ascribe to their supposed ideologies, they're just sports teams known by whatever has happened recently in popular media.
Jayden Sanders
On the other hand people in the rest of the world don't know what it means either. I mean, people actually think the British Conservative Party is Right Wing. Amazing, isn't it?
Eli Baker
Other anglo nations isn’t a good example of “rest of the world”
Cameron Jenkins
It's always interesting seeing americans talk about KCD. It seems to confuse and frighten them, which I don't understand because most of them claim to be of european descent, yet it seems further away for them than any weebshit.
Cooper Thomas
This may be the most retarded thread I've seen on Yas Forums in a good while, and this board is nothing but festival of retards. Good job, Yas Forums: you never cease to find new lows to stoop to. Trully you are the fucking grand pioneers of absolute shit.
Jacob Hill
>Marxism You mean liberalism. Marx would have had these people killed.
Ryan Carter
Islam is better than Judaism
Asher Green
>church bad historically the church hasn't done anything good for the human race. religion is neutral overall and has inspired a lot of good and bad >drunken and fornicating dissident priest good I mean he's portrayed really accurately based on historical texts from that time. I've actually read some detailing small-town life. >many women are portrayed as held back by society around them hmmm society is a pretty shit construct and has held a lot of people back over the ages. women are unique in a lot of ways and have a different set of strengths >sleeping with whores has only positive outcomes it does irl >defying established traditions is portrayed as more positive than negative blind adherence to tradition is slavery by another name, but if it's a good tradition there's nothing wrong with continuing it
Gavin Ross
devs and super fucking lame LARP shitposters
Thomas Morgan
Still an abrahamic religion, you live on borrowed time buddy. I give you like, what, 500 hundred years for it to end up in the same sorry state.
Kevin Howard
>church bad Are you implying that catholic church was any good in early 14xx? Ever heard of Hus, Wycliffe and Luther?
Kayden Morris
Czech here, you're all retards. It's not a Jewish game, it's a Protestant game. It's literally the Hussite era.
Logan Lewis
The dev is openly anti-liberal and appeared on a conservative talk show to talk about how great it is that his game triggers libs. Also:
>However, since long before the game came out, there’s been debate about exactly which elements of history the game’s developers prioritized. Much of that debate concerned Warhorse’s 2014 and 2015 proclamations that the game wouldn’t contain people of color because, according to director Daniel Vávra, “there were no black people in medieval Bohemia. Period.” People then pointed to historical texts and art that suggested, actually, there might have been Moors in the region, as they were definitely present in Europe at the time. It’s hard to say definitively one way or another whether they ended up in the sorts of backwoods towns that dot Kingdom Come’s setting, or if they only appeared in major city centers. In response to the ensuing controversy around representation, Vávra, a Gamergate supporter, mocked dissenters on Twitter with, among other things, this image of Martin Lawrence in the movie Black Knight.
>Kingdom Come’s most troubling rhetorical gymnastics trick, then, is one that people who’ve been playing games for a while are pretty used to: while people are happy to cite a commitment to historical accuracy to explain Kingdom Come’s anti-diversity stance, that didn’t stop its developers from adding borderline-magical potions, overt references to other video games, and heaps of modern slang in the conversational dialogue. As with so much else about Kingdom Come, where people draw the line on immersion is a choice, not something set in stone.
I think it's fine to go for historical accuracy, but there's a better way to handle this if you're not actually anti-liberal. I'm not even saying that's wrong or bad, I'm just saying that the pretend that the dev and the product are free from anti-diversity right leaning politics is disingenuous.
Jason Walker
>What about this game is "right wing" again? Nothing. The dev isn't right wing, he is a centrist and a pragmatist. He opposed and criticized left-wingers due to their totalitarian and extremist views, not because he is member of the arbitrarily opposing form of radicalism. >church bad No. The game is set during one of the worst crisis of Catholic Church in it's entire history, during the Western Schism, which has laid the foundation of not only the Fraternite and Hussite uprisings, but paved the road for the Reformation later down the line. You can actually read and learn a SHITTON about it in the game itself, because it contains a massive amount of historically well researched info in the encyclopedias. The criticism is not against the faith itself (Bohuta, a deeply god-fearing man, is literally portrayed the ethical centerpiece of the story), but rather towards the particular state the church found itself at the time. Again, a state of such dissoloution that it caused a major dissolution and fracturing that frankly lasted up till present day. >drunken and fornicating dissident priest good Not a dissident, and the point of Bohuta is that you don't have to be radicalist to be a good person. He is deeply religious. He is just also a pragmatic. >many women are portrayed as held back by society around them Which women? The game actually goes to great lenghts to explore how women WEREN'T held back despite the traditional gender roles, how traditional roles and relevance and self-realization AREN'T in opposition. >sleeping with whores has only positive outcomes Not really, as it can screw up your relationships to other women. >defying established traditions is portrayed as more positive than negative No. The game takes place in historically undeniably EXCEPTIONALLY volatile times, but there is no other deeper political message behind it.
You people are genuinely, 100% mentally ill at this point. Fuck off.
Cameron Diaz
> I think it's fine to go for historical accuracy, but there's a better way to handle this if you're not actually anti-liberal. I'm not even saying that's wrong or bad, I'm just saying that the pretend that the dev and the product are free from anti-diversity right leaning politics is disingenuous. It's not really about some anti-diversity stance. Rather, it's about nationalism. Kingdom Come Deliverance is to Czechs what Black Panther is to black people. Made by us, for us, authentically Czech.
Daniel Edwards
Youve gotta be a lobotomized kinda stupid to play a game because you think its "conservative" or "liberal". To you retards conservative means no black people and liberal means a woman with short hair. Please fucking get a clue