>Yas Forums says game is bad
>play it
>its actually amazing and probably one of the best out there
>Yas Forums was wrong again
Why does it always happen?
Yas Forums says game is bad
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because Yas Forums isn't what it used to be
Because you have bad taste
Dont you have to be sucking cock right now KH/PM fag?
Yas Forums has shit taste. They only like meme games, and don’t play video games at all otherwise. If it’s actually good, then it’s shit or reddit.
I don't know what KH or PM is supposed to stand for, that could be like 100 different things, stop using retarded abbreviations and just say what you mean.
If Yas Forums says it's bad, it's actually good. Yas Forums Is like the jews of videogames, always do the opposite of what they say.
SS > BiS > DT > PiT
Prove me fucking wrong
ehh.. Bowser's inside story was better IMO but Meme team wasn't bad, now paper jam was a a piece of shit
>Game is titled Mario & Luigi
>half the game you just play as Mario but with AOE attacks
yeah, amazing game
The first three games are the only good ones and even then PiT is pretty iffy at points
Was the BiS remake any good? I really enjoyed the original, but don't have my DS anymore so the remake would be my only way of replaying it.
>baiting THIS hard
Cmon son, what kinda shitty excuse for an analogy is that
The 2D parts of these games have always been inferior, even in BiS. Wish they hadn't doubled down on them in DT
You can play DS games on a 3DS y'know.
the game is legitimately beautiful in plenty of ways. great music, great art style, great world building and just great presentation overall, even if the gameplay itself can get pretty slow
Fuck off with the PiT hatred. Its only "issue" was being too short. The game itself is fucking kino.
Cope
Theres a reason why any new faces to the series always go from SSS straight to BiS
I dont have the game itself anymore either. My DS and the games ended up getting misplaced during a move several years back.
BiS is way too high
No he's right. Also, PiT is 1000 times better than meme team.
RIP Alphadream.
DT could have been so fucking good if you could skip text.
The first 2-3 hours are an absolute tutorial hell and the pacing doesn't get much better afterwards, all the dialogue in this game is so boring and pointless
Because they've been convinced to skip a game by people who haven't played it in years and just remember disliking the item system? Seriously, PiT is perfectly okay, and I'd say it's the one with the most engaging story out of all the M&L, and easily the darkest game with the Mario characters... while also being pretty funny. I laughed more at this game than at BIS, just for that, it's worth checking out.
Battle system's not bad either, and there's also some cool bosses. I understand the first and third games are considered better, but skipping it is way excessive in my book.
it's good because it's dark!
woah that toad at the tree literally got killed ok wow this game is good now
I'm not baiting at all. At least with BIS when you played as bowser it was incredibly unique and notably different from the bros.
In DT it's the exact same moves and bullshit as normal, it's a complete slog. Going into the Dream Worlds is genuinely less fun than the overworld because you lose Luigi
We've been over this Yas Forums, it's not my fault you can't fucking read
Dream Team is not a BAD game outright per se, I'd say it goes toe to toe with Bowser's Inside Story to some degree, but it is heavily flawed:
>Tutorials galore
>Main villain is a fall guy for Bowser
>Dream World segments get progressively more longer and maze-like
>Pacing is absolutely fucked, particularly at the very start, takes like 5 hours to get to your first dungeon beneath the castle
>Stort drags on for far too long, overdtays its welcome
>Some Luiginary attacks are superior to others making them obsolete
>Fighting Dream World hordes devolves into repetitive Luiginary spam, as fun as it is in execution
>Not enough callbacks to Superstar Saga or dream related shit like Wart or Subcon, or some figment of Cackletta/Fawful
The giant Dreamy Luigi fights are a real treat and have great visuals, the music is by far the best the series ever had, the combat is concise and decent, the sprite work is nice, and the humor and writing is still on point. It's just somewhat bloated and over-ambitious. It took a whopping four years to make, and all that fancy spriting probably took a toll on their finances which is why they only mustered a shitty crossover + 2 remakes afterwards rehashing the same engine.
I liked the game when I beat it once, but I wouldn't replay it again nowadays. I'll just remember the highlights and leave it at that.
all of the mario and luigi games are good, there's no bad one, only mediocre ones.
BUT MEH EBIN DREAM JEWJEE FIGHTS!!!1!1
I agree with everything except the writing. Dream Team wrote Antasma and Bowser as incredibly boring and generic villains while the actual jokes in the game feel overplayed and dragged out
Yeah I noticed some comedic moments get dragged on far past the punchline, that lighthearted piano music that plays lasts so long as an indicator for THIS ID THE PART WHERE YOU LAUGH OLEASE LAUGH, and yes Antasma was a villain with the depth of a puddle, if I recall correctly he was just some bat that ingested a magic stone or something and became evil 'just because' and had a stereotypical vampire accent and mannerisms. Bowser duping him and taking charge was a nice change of pace and made him a threat again but since Antasma is whatever the impact was lessened.
>I liked the game when I beat it once, but I wouldn't replay it again nowadays. I'll just remember the highlights and leave it at that.
You know, this is how I feel about a lot of japanese RPGs, I am used to this feeling, and that is a shame, because that was a thing that never happened to mewith Mario RPGs. From the first one (to a lesser extent) to Paper Mario, to the other M&L, their brisk pace and creative approach to gameplay makes them very replay-friendly. The Paper Mario series even more so with the badge system. So it's a shame this one fell into so many JRPG pitfalls the other Mario RPGs had avoided so graciously. A pity, really.
> It's just somewhat bloated and over-ambitious.
That's really what drags this game down, I bet someone had complained Mario RPGs are "hurr too short" hence we got this.
>Main villain is a fall guy for Bowser
Bowser usually gets shat on in the RPGs, it was actually cool to see him outplay Antasma at the end and be a proper final boss.
Yas Forums's opinion on games is reliant heavily on how easily the game's name can be a play-on for the word "shit"
>Some Luiginary attacks are superior to others making them obsolete
This is a core problem in the series dating back to the first game. There's literally no reason to use anything but the strongest Bros moves except maybe the AoE ones if you're swarmed with enemies.
>BiS
>i
Why do fags do this?
This.
It's a good game but I prefer the previous games.
yeah this, even if PJ is generic it's still fun and engaging.
>Main villain is a fall guy for Bowser
This served a greater purpose of making Bowser more fleshed out and just generally better, though.
Paper Jam is actually good gameplay-wise, right? I have heard some good things about it, including it being the hardest of the five.