Is BG1 worth playing? Or is it better to skip straight to 2?
Is BG1 worth playing? Or is it better to skip straight to 2?
Luis Powell
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Brandon Davis
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Kevin Kelly
Beamdog is guilty of a number of different crimes. Here are the major ones.
1. The Enhanced Editions are essentially a collection of free mods that had existed for nearly twenty years. Beamdog gathered them all up, slapped "Enhanced Edition" on it and resold it as a new product. There's very very little in the Enhanced Editions that wasn't already out there, and most of it is stuff you don't want (like obnoxious character outlines).
2. The games didn't sell so well and the originals were still far outselling them, even twenty years after their release, so Beamdog had EVERY digital distributor stop selling the originals and ONLY sell the Enhanced Edition. If you want to buy a digital copy of the originals now, they're "bundled" into the Enhanced Edition. Now these scumbags can claim sales from people just wanting to buy the originals as their own.
3. The infamous 600+ bugs on launch. The game is still riddled with bugs (as even a perfunctory glance over their forums show) but the fact that it took nearly two years for them to get a game that had been working fine for 20 years to reach playability after launch is telling of their wild incompetence.
4. This is where we get to the ones that really piss people off. Beamdog couldn't just remaster the game, they had to fuck with the content too. New dialogue for existing NPCs like Jaheira, Viconia, Safana, Kivan, et cetera was written in to make the characters more progressive and leftist friendly. Beamdog shills will argue that "adding content isn't changing content XDDD" but it is when the new content changes the core personalities of the existing characters. This is in addition to adding a slew of their own LGBT (hitherto there were none in Baldur's Gate) NPCs, all flooded with OP attributes and magic items to encourage people to play them despite their cancer.
5. Siege of motherfucking Dragonspear.
Joseph Lee
Worth playing if you use the Tutu mod.
Wyatt Jackson
Honestly. Yas Forums often gets mad at me for this opinion, but I say skip to 2. One was a great game, for it's time, but it hasn't held up as well as 2. 1 is good, 2 is a masterpiece. And this advice is doubly true if this is one of your first cRPGs.
If you're super familiar with the genre and the older games especially and know how to deal with all their old quirks and difficulties, there's something to be said about taking a character from 1 all the way through to ToB. But if that's not you, then chances are you'll play 1 and bounce out within a few hours. There's so just so many absolutely insane and infuriating mechanics with low level DnD that the whole experience just feels clunky as hell, and almost all the greatest moments and memories in the series happen in 2 anyway.
Anything you need to know in 2 is explained to you, you'll miss some details but nothing major. My advice has always been to start with 2 and then if you absolutely love the series, the next time you replay it, do a playthrough from 1.
Grayson Harris
It's a low level adventure so no cool magic and stuff.
Skip to BG2
Nolan Sanchez
This guy has it right too. Don't pay for the Beamdog version, pirate the original versions.
Anthony Cruz
1 is better than 2, but don't play the EE.
Jackson Allen
>everything has to be flashy and boomy and explode a lot and swords must be BIG and FLASHY because that is fun
Easton Sanders
Is the Planescape EE also as bad?
Camden Hill
Oh fuck you faggot. Are you gonna pretend that low level combat in DnD isn't absolutely fucking retarded, or that BG1 makes it fun?
>Go into a dungeon, and you have to literally inch along every step of the way at the slowest possible speed because if you set off a single trap, you've just gotten half your party killed by a lightning bolt (and you better hope that you never fail a trap disarm)
>Because it's low level DnD you can't ressurect, which means if ANYONE dies in ANY combat encounter (or a trap) then you've got a 10-20minutes journey back to town to pay a priest to resurrect them. No fast travel, no way to efficiently get there, just screen after screen of tedious filler maps
>And so what you ACTUALLY do is fucking savescumm, which utterly ruins any immersion and pacing in the game because it means anything you're doing is constantly just reloaded unless it goes completely right, because the alternative is a huge, ridiculous backtrack
>And because Bioware didn't understand map design in those days if you're ever indoors, in a castle or god-forbid a dungeon, you can expect the corridors to be insanely tight and thin. Which means pathfinding is ass, enemies get unfair and un-retaliatable shots on you, and of course, a single lightning bolt will wipe out half your team
>The entire power curve is Weak -> Somewhat strong. Compared to BG2 which takes you on the full course from Middling -> Strong -> Legendary throughout the course of the game, meaning you go from using basic and generic gear to wielding amazing gear and casting really fun spells.
>And that's without even mentioning when you get to the end of BG1 and run into the insanely overpowered, suicidal enemies with AoE attacks that blow themselves up in their goal to at least kill one or two of your party members with them. Because they're at the end of an insanely huge dungeon and it's a full on 30+minute trek back to resurrect anyone.
Caleb Gray
wait for BG3, it's being made for your kind.
Anthony Phillips
And that's without even getting into low level combat
>You attack Wolf, you miss
>Wolf attacks you, it misses
>You attack Wolf, you miss
>Wolf attacks you, it misses
>You attack Wolf, you miss
>Wolf attacks you, it hits
>You attack Wolf, you miss
>Wolf attacks you, it misses
>You attack Wolf, you miss
>Wolf attacks you, it misses
>You attack Wolf, you hit
>Wolf attacks you, it hits
>You attack Wolf, you miss
>Wolf attacks you, it hits
>You die.
I know what you're gonna say "J-Just use sleep! You should have it available for every encounter and it'll never fail!" Except that comes back to the original point, that if you know the ins and outs of these old cRPG mechanics BG1 is bearable, but if you don't it's a fucking slog. If you don't know which spells are good, or how THAC0 works then BG1 is a huge mess of tedious and stupid savescumming.
Colton Stewart
1 is the only one worth playing
2 is a streamlined, linear coomer game
Anthony Mitchell
BG2 directly follows on storywise so you should give it a go.
It's a little slow at the beginning though.
Brayden Gomez
There is no consensus. Personally I prefer going straight to BG2 since low-level D&D campaigns are not for me. On the other hand some people love simplicity of BG1.
Justin Thompson
1 is more focused on exploration and has the charm of low level D&D
2 is more combat focused
yes play them both, no don't play the EE
Josiah Fisher
>he thinks I will read all that drivel
lmao
Dominic Hall
Zachary Lewis
bg1 is better than 2 but i'm in the minority which means my opinion is wrong
Liam Long
>Is BG1 worth playing? Or is it better to skip straight to 2?
Skip them all there are just old and boring.
Wait BG3 the true Baldur's gate.
Samuel Fisher
Is the New Hope worth watching? Or skip to Empire Strikes Back?
Owen Moore
Skip them all! They are old and boring.
Start with the Force awakened the true Star wars !
Jacob Brooks
>dude BG is a classic series the best of CRPG literally nothing could ever top it nothing comes close everything pales in comparison what a great series
>actually I just meant BG2 BG1 is shit skip it it's not worth playing
Lucas Peterson
bg1 is good, people who skip it are gay.
Jackson Jenkins
Ignore trolls and/or zoomer retards. BG1 is just as good as BG2.
Thomas Richardson
Do I need to watch From Russia With Love before seeing Goldfinger?
Gavin Allen
It really isn't. BG1 is okay, it's not amazing it's okay. BG2 was and remains a masterpiece.
Levi Mitchell
Seeing how it's 2020 and you still haven't played BG it means you're probably a normie and BG1 is the quintessential normie filter, so logically you wouldn't be able to comprehend or enjoy it. Skip it.
Zachary Gutierrez
BG1 can be rough due to the proportion of damage vs health, plus spellcasters will have a limited amount of spells, which leads to less choice. However, the game is quite fun overall, you can have a lot of freedom of choice due to the exploration factor and the big amount of NPCs. I find BG2 to have better combat and more fun quests, but BG1 is also fun.
I also recommend you to add several mods that greatly improve the experience. I can share my mod list if you're interested. They are mostly about restoring cut content, fixes and of course, SCS. You can also visit us at /infinity/ in /vr/.
Luis Nelson
no shit graphics
John Reed
There he is. There's the fucking schizo