ITT: Actual dark souls lore disscussion

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That's pretty cool

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too bad dark souls 3 fucks with this and just gives them retarded legs and then wings (in the statues)

I feel like these guys are the lost grail of Dark Souls. They play such a huge part in the 1st then fucking nothing. I'm still pissed to this day that dark souls 3 answered 0 questions and just made problems. Maybe the writing was shit from the start.

>ITT: Actual dark souls lore disscussion
Who is your favorite Souls Lore youtuber :^)

Now the question is... which one is the shepherd and liar?
Don't have any lore to contribute but here is my favorite Souls LOL.

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Fact: the lore and atmosphere were the reasons why people played those games.
No one liked them for the gameplay or the combat.

DARK SOULS 2 WAS BETTER THAN 3

i unironically agree with this post, even if it may be a controversial statement.

Factually incorrect. For you see, I liked the gameplay.

This could be fanciful interpretation or imagination. Wouldn't be the first time in the series a depiction has been inaccurate or in dispute.

No, the sequels dropped the ball and shouldn't have been made in the first place

well we know from cut content that had been datamined that one skybox had literal flying serpents in it and that from a supposed QA tester leak that a particular serpent would be involved with the twin princes.

This is a fact I don't see why you need to shout as if it's not common knowledge

fuck off, I was hoping this thread would actually have discussion, not more mindless shitflinging

can somebody clarify the DS3 dlc shit

what/where are the pygmies?

WHAT IS IT FOR AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>roll invulnerability fucked
>shit story
>BLOOM
nah DS2 was a pile of shit desu

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I don't think the serpents were all that important in the grand scheme of things.

They're both liars, two sides of the same being. The "sheperd" part is a reference to them "shepherding" the undead, I would guess.

A better question for me is why there are so many more snek heads during the Dark ending.

This is true for me. I enjoyed it so much because it scratched an itch I had for this type of adventure game, it almost felt like playing a PS1 game again with how cryptic and atmospheric it was. The gameplay was serviceable, but nothing to write home about, and the sequels never managed to deliver on that atmosphere again. I enjoyed Bloodborne, though.

They are the grand scheme of things. They pull all the strings. I feel like its implied they ascended to angels

Summons a white vagrant. I also think you can trade it for rubbish or something

Still mad those flying things in the trailers weren't serpents.

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pygmies were a race of midgets descended from the furtive pygmy, who inherited pieces of the original soul of dark. Because gwyn feared the dark, he created the ringed city for the pygmies to rule far away from lordran, to prevent them from potentially overpowering the lords when the age of fire began to fade.
And then gwyn put his daughter in the ringed city or something and she hides the pygmies because of the egg that also looks like a transposing kiln, which might make sense because ludleth is maybe a pygmy? And then at the end of the world, gael eats the final pieces of the soul of dark from the blood of the pygmies and they're all dead by the time you get there, except for the one that's crawling towards filianore.
Personally I think the whole thing is stupid, and the only game I consider canon is ds1

Nothing. It literally says so in the description.

They aren't. At best, they're agents of the gods, or something like that.

>the undead curse is that people are shrinking, which is why the crow and sif are so big

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What gods? The husks roaming around?

literal pygmy theory

How do you feel about the idea of Demon's and Bloodborne being in the same universe?

>I can't read
>attributes of Mercury attached to his fucking staff instead
>God of financial gain, commerce, eloquence, messages, communication, travelers, boundaries, luck, trickery, merchants, thieves

The serpents manipulated the rise and fall of gods like it was nothing. They were probably the most influential factions we ever encountered throughout the trilogy.

I think it's a neat idea, you can sort of fit it all together with dark souls happening after the bad ending, and bloodborne happening after the good one or something. It was a lot more interesting when characters were using umbasa in bloodborne, but as it is now there's really no hard connection.

Still mad DaS 3 was a rushed piece of shit with no real plot or lore.

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>what/where are the pygmies?

Pygmies are/were/and always have been Humans. The Furtive Pygmy took the Dark Soul from the left overs of the great flame and used it to spawn a multitude of primitive Humans- seemingly endlessly.
The DS3 DLC basically exposed that Gwyn was INCREDIBLY paranoid of the Pygmies overpopulating his own people, taking their jobs, etc.. Because the Dark Soul never diminishes and is just capable of multiplying forever as it runs on Humanity.

Gwyn resolved this by cuckolding Humanity from their true destiny and nature by branding them with the Dark Sign. The pro was they turned into the people we know and recognize today and things were allowed to be 'normal', but the con was if Humanity was ever deprived of souls/sunlight/Gwyn stuff they'd turn hollow from deprivation.
Gwyn basically created the curse of Undeath.

Can we talk about what dark souls 3 may have been?
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Isn't Sif a normal sized dog in the DLC?

youtu.be/b8IvzBq9OVM, ah flying serpents.

I don't want to. It hurts. Fuck Bamco.

What could have been. To be fair, Miyazaki wanted to stop Dark Souls after the first one. The fact that 3 was rushed and pushed in the state it was just proves how right he was in wanting out of Bamco's shit contract of making Souls games. They didn't have time to implement the original ideas (which were all way, way fucking better than what we got).

We can only hope that Fromsoft is using this chinavirus bullshit to put in some nice extra work so Elden Ring ends up being as close to what they really wanted as possible.