Turn-based grand strategy

Its a fucking roach game for roach people

Shogi is way, way simpler than Go. Go has no feedback and requires you to read a bunch of books to even understand what you're supposed to be doing. Why is 4-4 a standard move but 5-5 retarded? Just gotta study it.
I do agree that Mahjong is weird as fuck.

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At least the mechanics of GO are digestable. Mahjong and shoji are the type of things people would memorize before video games. You could learn all the type matchups in a game like pokemon, the entire tier list and BnB's in a fighting game, speedrun strats for a particular game, or the basic fucking rules to Mahjong.

This isn't even a joke, this is literally the rules of mahjong.

Mahjong is bloated but not even close to hard. The basic rules are simply to make 4 triplets (a triplet is a sequence like 234 or three same tiles like 444) and 1 pair. Also you need a winning condition ("yaku") in order to be able to win. Most people can learn in 1 hour.

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Where can I learn how to play?

Alright I'll concede its more bloated than difficult. I had to learn this shit to 100% the mahjong table in Yakuza 0, and let me tell you, I was just clicking random shit toward the end. Fuck this game and fuck chinks.

The game is good, the tutorials are bad

Also why the fuck is this game tiles and not card?

To further complain, I have 100% had a Tanyao but I have no fucking clue how to make the game declare it as a wincon

>cards
Try to get 13 cards standing up you dumb NIGGER

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I read like four chapters of Hikaru no Go and the thing that always threw me off was scoring. They had a character that cheated by messing with the scoring when they were adding up cause of how they had to move the game pieces at the end.

Go is hard

Just hold them in your hand retard

Tiles are cool and you can slam them. Also you wouldn't want to have to hold 13 cards in your hand.

You just have to call tsumo ("I win by picking my winning tile myself") or ron ("you discarded my winning tile, fuck you"), the game declares whatever winning condition you have and calculates the points your hand is worth automatically

Incredibly easy to learn
Insanely deep strategic choises

Place a piece on the board.
Try to sorround the enemy pieces so that groups no longer have any free spaces to expand.

its really stupid a player is in charge of understanding their own hand when they can just lie and no one can call them out until after the reveal. What if you bluff to get in people's heads?

You're fucking baiting, you cannot be this retarded. I refuse to believe this was posted geninuely

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Only for high IQ individuals.

anywhere to play go online?
i thought igo was a thing but googling it gave different results

The game won't let you do that.
In real life, if someone calls a win despite not having a winning condition (yaku), the win is invalid and they have to pay like 10 000 points, which is a lot.

chess960 is the future

>shogi is literally chess with level up mechanics
lmao just like muh jay ar pee jees

Go is easier to learn than chess because every piece is identical in ability and value but it requires a completely different form of thinking as a result. I suspect there's almost zero crossover between the two board games for this reason. I'm pretty skilled at go but terrible at chess.

Mahjong just sounds like Gin Rummy.

Yeah but if you hand is concealed who would know? What if literally everyone at the table misses a tile or something? It just seems so weird you have to be diagnosing your own hand in complete isolation from the other players hands. Like, you can basically ignore everything the other players are doing until you think you can win.

>mahjong
>hard
If a brainlet like me could learn it, so could you

online-go.com works well enough but I'm not sure how large or active their community is.

And even then it all comes down to luck. The only reason I didn't get shadow realmed in this game for example is because I was the only one who managed to ron and tsumo once in this onslaught of tsumo by the dealer.

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When you declare a win, you have to show your hand to everyone so they can check nothing is wrong.

Beginners should focus solely on their hands. Intermediate and advanced players are the ones who have enough free room to try to read what other people are doing

>china has no good ga-

>using any character besides the cat
That's what you get-nya.

If you want to learn the basics of mahjong, go play Yakuza. Literally the best plave to start because you can't make any illegal moves.
Remember to press square at the start of every turn to test for riichi as it's not explained anywhere.

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>Remember to press square at the start of every turn to test for riichi
THATS WHAT WAS PISSING ME OFF THIS WHOLE FUCKING TIME I HAD WINCON AND THE GAME JUST MADE BE DISCARD TILES FOREVER WITHOUT A PROMPT

Simple rules, insanely high brainpower needed
If your ass hasn’t been playing since age 4, you won’t get to high level
It’s still fun casually though

>東2局

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how the fuck are you supposed to tell what numbers these things are? also
any tips for doing Shogi? I have 0 patience for this game

It says what number they are right on the tile retard.

This is especially true when compared to chess. If I read over top level chess games I feel like I can understand the strategies the players were using, whereas in Go things get so high level, abstract and long term that it's both impressive and bewildering.

If you kept reading after this point, you’re a faggola

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play Shogi instead, it's chess 2.0

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its chess with grinding mechanics