This is arguably one of the most successful and highly regarded modern JRPG's

this is arguably one of the most successful and highly regarded modern JRPG's.
>turn based combat
>random encounters

why doesnt SE make another classic/TB rpg? it can obviously still push so many units. why did KH have to fucking ruin SE?

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MANA nigger

wut?

Because FF7R outsold it week 1 lol. Fatlus is a joke.

>random encounters
It doesn't have random encounters, what are you on about?

It's not about reviews, it's about sales. Persona is a niche series breaking into the mainstream, made on a relatively small budget with low production values, so it can afford to be turn based. Final Fantasy is a huge series with huge budgets and an expectation that they'll push the envelope technologically, so their games need to sell at least 3 times as many copies as a Persona game to be considered equally successful. And they manage that and then some. They would not manage it if they went back to turn based gameplay.

It doesn't have random encounters idiot.

Persona 5 took 10 years to make, got top tier Japanese talent and has like 140 hours of content, it's hilarious retards like you still think it's "niche" when it was expected to sell over 3 million copies. In no world is that niche. It's not blockbuster, but it's not niche whatsoever.

Yeah, it broke into the mainstream with Persona 5. Before that, the last entry came out in 2008, on the PS2, a dead console at the time. And then the series had nothing but fighting game and rhythm spinoffs for almost a decade.

People buying FF7 remake are a joke.

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It's 10/10 just for Tae. She is a literal goddess

The last game in the series came out on the PS2...if you ignore the fact that it got an Anime, the one before it got 3 movies, it got a rerelease for the Vita, and the rerelease got a rerelease of the anime with the new content, then there were multiple spinoff games that all sold really well then yea...it was only "mainstream" during Persona 5. Idiot.

Producing entries does not make a series mainstream.

>it doesn't matter if tens of millions of dollars were used producing content for thing, it's not mainstream because I said so

Idiot

Isn't this what Octopath and Bravely Default are?

People who sat through the ending and still like it are a joke
>oh jeez characters that I recognize, just puppeteer their corpse around I don't fucking care what you do with them as long as they look like the characters I recognize

Square should let Nomura do whatever he wants. He has been carrying the company for years. Cancelling Versus is the biggest mistake they ever made. Nomura should have just left after that and let them go into bankruptcy.

>Persona 5 took 10 years
I recognize they put a lot of love into this game but they weren't 10 years making it. Come on, user. Don't be stupid.

Persona 5's combat system is entirely carried by cool visuals, its combat is functional and good for a turn based RPG but I never once thought "oh man this is so much better than an action game"

FF7R's combat is fun, flashy, AND functional, it feels like a modern translation of the ATB system, just that the player is expected to fill up the bar themselves rather than wait around on it.

Persona 5 came out in 2016. In 2011, they were already deep into development of the engine for Persona 5. It was in development for AT LEAST 7 years, or in hyperbolic Yas Forums speak, it took 10 years to fucking make.

persona 5 is a visual novel

7 remake is turn based, just play classic mode. Classic mode is still harder than persona 5 baton pass spam

not op but they're semi random, enemies in mementos respawn now so you can grind them, although they're avoidable, so imo it's best of both worlds
>inb4 but palaces are scripted
and it's good, it makes the difficulty of them static while grindable mementos is random how it's supposed to be
grind in royal is also way more enjoyable because instead of spamming reaper cheese/confuse cheese you can hunt a shitton of treasure demons on bad weather days

Persona 5 Royal on PC when?

>good for a turn based RPG
Do you even know what constitutes good turn-based combat? Persona 5's literally consists out of "buff, then attack".

>good turn-based combat
oxymoron

Does anyone like it BECAUSE of the combat system, though?
Is there any indication it would have sold worse with a real-time combat system?

p5 faggots are so fucking insufferable holy shit

The decision to split the dungeons off from the grinding was kind of brilliant. Lets the dungeons be a tighter and more carefully designed experience, while still giving a place to go bash your head against trash mobs if you want/need to.

it's also great that even if you go full retard and grind for hours in mementos before going back to palace you can just lay off the steam playing darts/tycoon/remade batting cages and still get something out of it
plus even not that far into the game treasure demons give you like 10+k yen ea, that with unlockable bonuses makes you able to fuse higher level personas really easy considering it's behind like rank 5/6 and not 10 now
i played base religiously and got collectors of royal, base burned me out really hard when attempting to plat it, but royal is keeping me engaged, it just feels fresh with all the quality of life changes and new stuff

>ea
never fucking understood what kinda retard thinks he has to shorten “each”

spreadsheet habit

SE games are more successful, but they produce games many people like but nobody loves. That's just how it is with most AAA titles

Pretty sure FFXV, KH3, and FFVIIR all sold more than either version of Persona 5.

first time ive seen it