ITT: Games that heavily damaged a good franchise

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any games after the first and second damaged this already autistic series for fat manchildren

>good franchise

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don't forget socially awkward twinks

The cracks were already showing in 2. BBS just finally shat it's pants.

OP you posted the wrong pic. Anything that followed after KH1 was shit.

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that's not 358/2 Days though

Beat me to it. I was gonna say com too but mostly because it started this fucking mindset of releasing plot relevant games on as many consoles as fucking possible

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I just wish the kingdom hearts series was more planned out/coherent.

The story was already going off the rails in 2 it's just that the combat was so good it made up for it
BBS didn't have that to fall back on since it's combat was such a step back(though that's to be expected from a PSP game)

Exactly. The reason I love KH1 so much is because it can be a stand alone game. It can end without ever needing to continue. It also has the best level design of any of the other games.

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To be fair you need to have an extremely high IQ to understand and enjoy Chain of Memories combat.

2 also had the benefit of having less story overall and having the only sliver of good writing in the prologue
The only good part of BbS was done better as a secret ending in KH2

I dunno about COM but RECOM was very tedious with its combat

I'd argue that the KH series was doing okay until Dream Drop Distance. Up til then for "core" games you really did just have KH1, KH2, and BBS as a prequel, with all the stories in between not really mattering to the grand picture. DDD gives a middle finger right to the audience and retroactively makes every single fucking title critical to the narrative, turns the story into an absolutely incomprehensible clusterfuck even by Nomura standards, and doesn't even work well as a game at that.

SPBP. Kingdom Hearts was always trash. There has been literally nothing good to come out of it, and it has even ruined other franchises due to its existences. It's the nigger of Square-Enix games.

COM was better for sure, the battle areas were much smaller and thus battles flowed better, positioning was more important and defensive Heartless (the ones that deflect frontal attacks) were MUCH harder to take down with attack spamming
Exploring worlds was still the same chore tho

Agreed except the whole x-blade shit in BBS. At least CoM works as a story setter for 2 but it isn't required to understand the story for 2. Every side game after BBS just slowly makes things worse by adding bigger ambition to the evil plot
>13 plan is to make a clone of sora
>Malificent want to revive jiminy's journal as a heartless
>DDD everyone is a xehanort. Ends on a goddamn cliffhanger.

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I'm glad you didn't say SPM. Even though it wasn't as good as PM or TTYD, it at least still had the same good writing, characters, and creativity that the other two had.

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Super Paper Mario did the damage. Sticker Star was the nail in the coffin.

You take that back. SPM is patrician

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but sa1 is good?

BBS started some dumb shit, but DDD was where the stupid went on full blast.

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it is. so good it ruins the rest of the series.

I find the hate this game gets to be hilarious. Beta simps hate the game because it shows Samus being realistic and love Alpha Assholes while being slightly dismissive towards the nice guy black dude.

Games need more of this to show gamers that they're the undesirables.

>It can end without ever needing to continue
Not with that cliffhanger, I say it should have ended with KH II.

>Beta simps hate the game because it shows Samus being realistic
>realistic

when it messes with what the series has established. I love the "only incels hate Other M" because it's just a generic strawman so they don't have to defend the worst Metroid

It still hurts. How the fuck did it turn so bad after 2?

Good if you have shit taste, but considering you obviously are a Sonic fan that's no surprise

Kingdom Hearts was never good. If the franchise did NOT start with Disney Renaissance which is what teen gamers were nostalgic for? It would have died.

And NOW that they're all out of decent Disney films? Now the franchise can finally die. The story getting worse only helps.

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>if you played and enjoyed a single sonic game then you're a sonic fan

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That's not KH3. And if you are gonna be a KH purist then be honest and say everything after 1 is shit, or else you will make no sense

Fuck off butthurt final fantasy faggots.

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