So eh.. let's adress the most glaring thing in the remake, that being...

So eh.. let's adress the most glaring thing in the remake, that being ... - WHY THE HOLY FUCKING FUCK DOES THE PARTY EVEN FIGHT SEPHIROTH IN REMAKE AT THAT POINT
LITERALLY WHAT ARE THEIR MOTIVATIONS FOR IT?

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>WHAT ARE THEIR MOTIVATIONS FOR IT?
change the story and be subversive.

they as in the ingame cast
Does it all fucking boil down to Cloud's homoerotic visions, so he goes all like "yo this guy keeps wanting to molest me, let's beat him up" to the rest of the party or what

Just stabbed Barret and Cloud/Tifa know he destroyed Nibelhein

Sephiroth attacks Cloud, you literally posted a pic of exactly that moment. Party appears to defend Cloud.

Are you retarded?

They played FF7, released in 1997 on the Playstation 1 system.

>stabs barret
>attacks cloud
>aerith literally says he's the biggest threat to the planet
I wonder why

Seph antagonizes the party to kill the plot ghosts and kill them, allowing Zack to live and change whatever they want. Easy as

Cloud: Revenge
Tifa: Revenge
Barret: super fresh revenge
Aerith: Totally knows hes the biggest threat to the planet

SO they couldn't do better than "lol random attack", no underlying motivations, comments, elaborations, nothing?

HOLY SHIT HOW TRASH CAN THIS GET

If you're going to speed-read and skip cutscenes at least have the decency to not ask story questions

to be fair cloud is written as a blood thirsty psychopath in the remake

Explain

There's plenty of reasons to hate this remake and you're stuck on ''Why are they fighting against this guy that has been fucking with them and is not attacking them?''?

I imagine that if it were any concise or concrete, you'd have an answer instead of shitposting a shitty advice, dumb faggot

He thinks killing people that want to kill you makes you a psychopath. Typical zoomer baby.

That's the motivation for almost every battle unfortunately

Keeps fucking with them? He keeps fucking with Cloud and nothing personnels Barret.
That's good enough writing for you to have an all out capeshit tier anime battle for destiny and the salvation of entire universe 5 mins after?

You're being retarded for the second time in a row. I flet like I didn't need to explain it at all since it was so obvious.
The party attacking Sephi like you mentioned would make no sense, but they didn't attack him.
Sephi attacking the party DOES make sense since he's from the future/alternative timeline. Fucking OBVIOUSLY he has a motivation, which isn't wholy revealed to the player at that point because of story progression. You're asking "what happens at the ending of this movie??!" 30mins in like an 8year ADHD kid.
Attacking the party at that point can be due to a thousand different reasons, like to cement an idea, to push things in a different direction, etc. We know he never intended to kill Cloud right there and then, he says so himself. What is his exact reason? Well go buy part2 and 3, that's the point you mongoloid. THIS is why they added new elements, to make things fresh, you make you market for them for free by posting threads on imageboards and spreading the gospel.

Aerith literally tells the party Sephiroth is the planets biggest threat

Well he killed Tifa's Parents, Cloud's Parents, destroyed their hometown, stabbed Barret, and attacked then initiated combat. What more motivation do you want for fighting somebody?

The meteor is still in the logo so we can assume Sephiroth's plan remains intact and that the meteor will eventually be summoned.

This then should confirm at least two more scenarios:

a) Temple of the ancients

b) The party getting through the snow fields and into the crater so Cloud can spazz out and give the black materia so Sephiroth

This, OP is a fag

desu I stopped reading at Sephi
That's quite literally the mark of ff7 gay fandom member

are you a retard?

Sephiroth shows up and asks Cloud to help him alter destiny.
Aerith tells the party that Sephiroth is the real enemy and they need to stop him.
Fucking women man.

What did you want them to do, just walk out on that? The battle doesn't have proper buildup and feels rushed but it makes sense in-universe.

Yes you humongous retard, but you, as a viewer, never fucking know of this because everyone conveniently keeps silent to keep the cat in the bag, whereas the fucking cat has been out for the past 23 years.

>Build up Seph as a super powerful dude since the beginning of the game in the og
>Party doesn't get immediately murdered

Because he showed up and made a final boss portal, and that's pretty much it.

He wants to destroy the planet. They make that quite explicit. Try pay more attention next time

Dude it will explain everything in part 2 just wait a few years alright

Nothing about it makes sense holy shit
He stabs barret out of nowhere and not one of them holds up a minute and goes "yo, what is this dude on about, let's think about this"

Barret in the OG didn't really have a good reason for chasing Sephiroth. Hell he even asks if Sephiroth is a good guy since he killed President Shinra. Cloud just says something like " this is the real crisis for the planet" or something like that.

Also in the OG Aerith is just following along because she wants Cloud's dick and Red XIII says he's just with them until they get to Cosmo Canyon. So I can see why they might want to give some more motivation but it was badly done.

Instead of making this shitty bait thread why not make a shitty FF7 homo thread instead?

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was going to kill johny. the turks are even more irredeemable in the remake

Kys you blatant fucking shill trash
Aerith says everything is wrong about him way AFTER they actually engage and fight him
Even that is pure out of nowhere bullshit that is narratively absolute TRASH

Sephiroth killing Cloud's mother is established the first time Cloud has a vision of him, Tifa's hate for Sephiroth is established in reactor 5 and then shown again in the Shinra building, and Sephiroth stabs Barret on screen. What the fuck more do you want? Maybe you were just too stupid to follow the plot even though you already knew it beforehand.

That is literally not what the fuck the OP asked at all you fucking idiot. He asks what motivations does the PARTY have for fighting him.

I havent even gotten to FF7 original but was he always like this? just randomly fucking with Cloud while nobody else could see him till this moment

>"yo, what is this dude on about, let's think about this"
You're whining because the characters didn't each give a ten minute monologue on whether to kill or not to kill the guy who tried to murder their friend?

We know that Sephiroth was at Nibelhiem when it was burned to the ground and that he and Cloud have bad history. What more do you want, a burlesque show when he metaphorically fucks the planet while singing about wanting to fuck the planet?

He rarely appears in the OG, you mostly follow his footsteps

Except Cloud was literally drawn and puppeteered by Sephiroth since practically day fucking one, so he tried to hide that allure by some bogus motivation of planetary scale crisis. The rest bought into it and kinda tagged along because if their enemy was Shinra, and Sephiroth was more dangerous, that means they're not out of the job,

No, this is the new and improved Sephiroth that is not gay for Cloud because he liked the way it felt when Cloud beat his ass.

You have a legitimate mental disorder. See . And since you're this fucking retarded I guess I'll even copy it for you:

>Sephiroth killing Cloud's mother is established the first time Cloud has a vision of him, Tifa's hate for Sephiroth is established in reactor 5 when we see her dead father and then shown again in the Shinra building, and Sephiroth stabs Barret on screen

And Aerith tells the party that Sephiroth is a threat to the planet before they go to fight him.

God you are stupid.

In the OG he doesn't even appear until the Kalm flashbck

You never see Sephiroth inside of Midgar.
He is namedropped a few times and you find President Shinra impaled on his sword but the first time we actually get to see him is in the flashback in Kalm, the first town outside of Midgar

>It's out of nowhere because I'm too stupid to pay attention

I hope you are 12 and not an adult who is this fucking stupid.

He's a total opposite. The first time he sees Cloud he doesn't even recognize him.

Because Square blew their wad. "It's FFVII, you gotta fight Sephiroth! Gotta have One Winged Angel! Pacing? Build up? Who cares about that! Clearly not us, we made kingdom fucking hearts!"

those are not motivations
those are hamfisted derivatives of the OG plot meant to give a semblance of reason to that entire shitshow at the end

REMAKE is in the name of the game but it's actually not remake so I wouldn't put to much faith in that

>characters have personal history with dude that makes them hate him and want to kill him
>Dude also attacks them and tries to murder their friend
>IS NOT A MOTIVATION YOU GUYSSSSS!
This is you

It's FFVII: REMAKE, not a remake of FFVII

How bout you play the game

So if I make a game where a random guy kill your familly out of nowhere and someone tell you he's a real big baddie it's enough to justify making a dragon ball super fight scene 5 minutes later?

I don't remember: what was the motivation for following him through the world in the original? Wasn't their main problem Shinra killing the planet?

Yes, you dicksucking, cum for brains faggot. Motivations no one ever mentions or elaborates upon, inserted as a last minute effort because you were fucking inept to create a quality build up to the antagonist-protagonist relationship, does not quantify as plausible motivation in any work of remote quality

Daily reminder that there are 3 Sephiroths

1. Clone Sephiroth with number 2 tattoo, freed Jenova's body, killed the president, host body used to be a SOLDIER, uses the pronoun watashi
2. Whisper Sephiroth, can control the whispers to summon meteor, illusion world, angel wing, uses the pronoun ore but doesn't speak much
3. Good guy Sephiroth, rhe one at the Edge of Creation, battles Cloud without any special powers, uses the pronoun ore.

Number 2 and 3 cannot be a time traveling Sephiroth from Advent Children as that Sephiroth is dead and uses the pronoun watashi.

it's not sephiroth

You are too fucking retarded to warrant further replies. Go sniff some more glue.

see

Yes, we know, it's blatantly false advertising.

Because Sephiroth has been taunting them since the first hour of the game. He's like a fucking Borderlands villain.

Does the game not explain who tf Sephiroth is? Did I miss something?

Zack too for that matter

more like, they're the

Dude just almost killed Barret and Aerith says how Sephiroth is the biggest threat to the planet before you go after him.

nice argument retard
go make another metacritic review you fucking indian shit eating shill

No, they're literally THINGS YOU RECOGNIZE

They called this a remake for "the new generation," but half the game is complete and utter nonsense without context unless you played the original. It's a sequel, not a remake.

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I don't care about his fucking tranny pronouns, go back.

Multiple flashbacks that tell you these things that you evidently skipped. That started in chapter fucking 3. You know, before you even see Tifa, we get told that Sephiroth did horrible shit to Cloud's hometown, not long after we are told that Cloud and Tifa grew up in the same town. Play a fucking game before you bitch about it, why don't you. This was 2 hours into the game, which should take roughly 15 hours, less if you beeline.

>The Sephiroth that partially reenacts the Safer Sephiroth fight isn't post AC Sephiroth
nah

He taunts cloud exactly twice and appears to him once in the span of one hour than you never see him again til hour 26

Aerith said that Sephiroth was a war hero who died 5 years ago. In Cloud's flashback, he wanted to be a famous SOLDIER like Sephiroth.

hope this is true, sounds pretty cool

And how the fuck does she know? And why is she written as knowing? It would be better if they underestimated him.

Are you stupid?
Cloud: Sephiroth destroyed his hometown, killed his family
Tifa: Same reason as Cloud
Barret: He was impaled by Sephiroth about half an hour ago
Aerith: Knows what happened in OG FFVII and wants to nip this one in the bud
This isn't complicated.