So is it a good game design or am I just shit . Tend to get lost and miss my jumps

So is it a good game design or am I just shit . Tend to get lost and miss my jumps .

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It's actually a pretty bad game and an absurd use of the Doom engine, don't worry about it too much.

Use the 3D model mod, it helps.

it's pretty awful. Yas Forums just praises it cause of "muh doom" and they hate Sonic team

Usually 3d sonic have shit controls. But what make this game hard is
>sonic can't homing attack
>map is easy to accidentally back track
>way to fucking fast and sonic is not floaty

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what game

>move
>suddenly the whole screen is a blue fucking dot
That's pretty damn bad.

Play Tails if you're too shit to use Sonic.

This is so fucking bad, i actually downloaded this like last week to try it out the fact that some people on Yas Forums say this is somehow better than how sonic controls in adventure 1 and 2 proves that e-celebs have too much influence these days.

FUCK YOU I AM A FILTHY CASUAL

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NOOOOO I MEAN NOT
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>e-celebs
The game's literally been in development longer than most of the anons on this board have been alive, e-celebs have nothing to do with why people like it

The controls are perfectly fine. You can do way more precise movements in SRB2 than in adventure. You're just shit at the game.
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After playing it, it only made me appreciate Sonic Adventure more. Homing attack is just good design. You can easily use it to position Sonic. Either to string attacks, or even just center yourself over a platform.
But in SRB2, you just SHOOT FORWARD with reckless abandon. Usually to your death in later levels. Sure, you can get good at it, but it's just not good fundamental design.

Also, while I'm glad Tails is there to help, they clearly expect you to depend on him constantly. They expect players to always be on the top route if you want to achieve anything, and if you're not, welp, time to SLOWLY ASCEND using Tails.

The heart and desire to make a good game is there, but it's not a success.

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This is easily the best 3D Sonic game, i'm sorry you're too bad at it to play it well. Maps are designed very well, you must have an awful sense of direction.

>they clearly expect you to depend on him constantly

I beat the game as solo Sonic on my first go, after not touching the game for almost seven years. Everything's beatable as every character, you just have to not suck.

lol

You can BEAT It with Sonic, but everything you want to be collecting is up on a plateau which brings the game to a halt if you're not just hoping for the finish line.
"Git Gud" is such an apologist perspective. I'll "git gud" at a fun game instead.

>everything you want to be collecting
The only things you can collect are emblems and chaos emerald tokens. You can get all 7 emeralds by like the second zone with Sonic, and the emblems can't be collected by every character. Even Tails is blocked off from some.

Yas Forums actually is bad at videogames, who knew.

You're intended to get the emblems and whatnot over multiple playthroughs with every character.

And either way, the emblems are bonuses that don't really give you anything overly amazing, just a few extremely challenging stages, that you shouldn't be attempting if you can't get the emblems anyways.

>this game done by amateurs has questionable game design

Why is it so hard for so many of people on Yas Forums to think on their own?

Because this fan game is so old people have unreasonable nostalgia for it. And basic ass contrarianism deciding fan projects are better because they're more niche.

>unreasonable nostalgia for it
You mean like adventurefags saying SA1 and SA2 are better? Those games don't even have branching pathways. It's clear most of the people here shitting on SRB2 are terrible at the game, because it's the only 3D sonic game with a high skill ceiling. If you can't get the time emblem on Black Core Act 1 your opinion on the game is meaningless.

>Those games don't even have branching pathways
Shows you haven't played them in a while, huh? A number of stages have branching paths. But really, how important is branching paths in the first place? There's no meaningful alt paths in any of the SRB2 stages I played except to confuse the player when they see a route they didn't take to get there, and end up turned around and heading up said alt path back to the beginning. Wow, what a meaningful addition.

>Your opinion is worthless unless you've wasted the amount of time on this garbage that I have
Uh huh, if you say so.

>Shows you haven't played them in a while, huh? A number of stages have branching paths.
Skipping part of the level by abusing spindashes isn't a branching pathway. The only stage I can think of off the top of my head is Final Rush, which is a terrible stage.

>There's no meaningful alt paths in any of the SRB2 stages
The fuck do you mean by meaningful? They're just there to give you different ways to play the level on subsequent playthroughs. And many of the emerald tokens and emblems are hidden in them anyways. Just because you have no sense of direction doesn't mean the game is bad. SRB2 shits on Adventure.
>SRB2 has more Sonic stages than Adventure 1 and 2 combined
>SRB2 has actual special stages based off Nights
>SRB2 has super forms
>SRB2 has 6 playable characters that are actually fun
Cope adventuretoddler.

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>Skipping part of the level by abusing spindashes isn't a branching pathway.
I wasn't even counting that. There's a number of alternate pathways in many of the Sonic/Shadow stages of SA1 and 2. Green Forest is a good example. So is Crazy Gadget which literally presents you with a choice of gravity switches leading into different segments.

>The fuck do you mean by meaningful? They're just there to give you different ways to play the level on subsequent playthroughs.
Meaningful as in, what the fuck difference does it matter if I head down the left fork or the rright fork? They all contain the same 1 enemy of the level, and the same 2 or 3 gimmicks. That's not real variety.
It's even a problem, because they're poorly defined, and usually have clear methods to traverse BACKWARDS down them like those steam vents in the second level that boost you up, instead of ushering you in a clear direction. With a 3 dimensional game there's no clear "right" to head in and it's easy to get turned around. And if you give players the means, they'll assume it's developer intent.

Cope yourself. SRB2 will go down as "hey isn't it weird they made Doom do this?" Meanwhile Adventure is widely regarded as peak 3D Sonic.

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Here you fucking Adventurefags ITT, THIS is why SRB2 is better than your shitty half-assed 3D Dreamcast games. THIS is an EXACT translation of the way you speedrun Knuckles in the 2D games. Bouncing off badniks to gain glide height and speed. They NEVER did this in any official 3D game. SRB2 may be a sloppy DOOM mod, but the reason people love it is because this sloppy DOOM mod still manages to be more faithful to the foundation of Sonic than any of the Adventureshits.

>Green Forest
Are you shitting me? That level is linear as fuck. It's almost a straight line.

>Meaningful as in, what the fuck difference does it matter if I head down the left fork or the rright fork? They all contain the same 1 enemy of the level, and the same 2 or 3 gimmicks. That's not real variety.
Oh, so you haven't actually played the game at all. The branching pathways in SRB2 could be levels all on their own. You're holding SRB2 to a higher standard than the adventure series. You think the janky snake that doesn't fucking work or light gimmick in Lost World is better than the mine carts in Arid Canyon? And we haven't even mentioned the other characters in the adventure series. The mech and treasure hunting stages in SA2 are abysmal and take up 2/3 of the game's action stages. In SA1 you have to play both sky chase stages twice and fight chaos 4 and 6 three times each.

The thing is, you're not even completely wrong, I can absolutely see someone getting lost in Castle Eggman Act 2, but you're getting lost in fucking Techno Hill, which is easy as fuck.

>That level is linear as fuck. It's almost a straight line.
I was probably thinking of White Jungle then. One of the forest stages had a few alt paths for much of it.

The minecarts of Arid Canyon are the better parts of that level, because it herds you in one direction and there's a clear right and wrong way to do them. You fuck up, you immediately know and don't waste minutes heading down an incorrect path or something.

Yes, treasure hunting and shooting stages are subpar. I think people blow out of proportion how bad they are, but obviously people are playing for the Sonic stages. I don't hate the idea of alt objectives, they just could be handled better.
The alt character handling is better in SRB2 than Adventure. No one will deny that. But I don't think SRB2's alt character design is perfect either. I gave Fang a shot and the pogo stuff could have been much more enjoyable. Also, his gun brings him to a halt, IIRC. And that's just a bummer. I'd even take the lock-on mechanics of SA1 and 2 over that. At least they can fire while moving.