User, I find myself at a loss with this problem. I know that you are quite wise...

>user, I find myself at a loss with this problem. I know that you are quite wise, so you must explain to an old fool like myself: are visual novels video games?

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Yes.

Nah

No.

Chapter five of republic is a good chapter!

No

First we must figure out what is a video game, user.

Whoa whoa, I know how you go about doing this. Don't put words in my mouth only to later mock them when you were the one who was asking the questions in the first place.

Would you consider chose your own adventure books a "game"?

Define video game first.

Yes, of course visual novels are video games, old man. You have chosen the path of defeat. Might as well down a pint of hemlock now to save yourself the embarrassment.

Are Powerpoint slides video games?

BEHOLD, A GAME!

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Serious talk tho, KFC's coleslaw are mindblowingly addictive.

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No. No games are novels, and all visual novels are novels, therefore no games are visual novels. Celarent.

It depends if there is any gameplay or if you could just skip past all the text and be done in an hour

About as much as a CYOA is so no not really.

Stop Socrates, I don't want to do this. I don't know okay, I DON'T KNOW.

Get bent Socrates.
Either you didn't want to fuck Alcibiades in which case congratulations there's no achievement in not fucking him.

Or you did want to fuck him and just pussied out of it despite the fact you're both consenting adults with nothing to lose by enjoying yourselves.

>The Essence of a Video Game is a visual media in which a participant influences it through input on a device, and can only be completed by certain inputs. What we perceive in the form "visual novel" is a visual media that needs input to complete.
>Therefor, while it lacks many of the qualifiers of "gameyness" as it exists in this imperfect world, it is a game.

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Shut up bitch; there's only room for one true king of philosophy.

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A common mistake is to assume a videogame has to be/contain a game. There are plenty of simulation/sandbox videogames that don't have the traditional win/loss state, or even score, that you would need to qualify as a game. Really, the only consistently fulfilled requirement for a videogame is being a computer program. So yeah, visual novels are videogames, but they're not games.

Are DVD menus video games?

I think I remember when I was younger there was a Harry Potter disc or something with really simple minigames in the menu. So yes, a DVD menu can be a videogame.

Who's the diogenes of gamedevs?

I love visual novels dearly, but they're not games. They're visual novels.

>novel
No.

>Implying all games can be completed

Do Phoenix Wright and Danganronpa count as VN's, if so then yes.

Guy who made Space Funeral.