I'm still not over it. Did piracy kill them?

Superstar Saga remake I can kinda understand, but Bowser's Inside Story did not need a remake.

Nobody was buying games for it at the tail end of its life when the Switch was already out.

The Mario license is fucking astronomical to use. They had no discounts, they're a third party company

Yes, because of luma and the ease of piracy.

How much is it?

By normal means, no, but it can play it through an injected VC rom

Sad They went bankrupt, they were working on a Tomato Adventure sequel.

No it was Sony, look up their collaberation with a mobile game.

>Retards, they released the games way too late into the 3DS lifecycle when it was dead already.

Good point, perhaps they should have snapped their fingers to magically skip two year-long development cycles

>How much is it?
No one knows because of NDA but the fact that only Konami and Ubisoft were able to get the license shows it must be astronomical. Alphadream went bankrupt due to astronomical debt, so part of that is without a doubt because of the license, on top of low net income from sales of the game that didn't let them break even. Just to add, the rent for the office they had is pretty low since it was in a non-essential area in Japan.

they shouldn't have wasted any money on pointless remakes that didn't sell. All of that was just money down the drain and time wasted on pointless remakes instead of developing a new game for Switch.

I hope Nintendo picked up some of the team. I'd hate for the next game to be made by some horrible developer like NDCube or the guys that made Hey Pikmin & Yoshis New island. If they had to go with a developer they already own, I'd say go with Good Feel since they were the ones the did the giant battles and the 3D overworld in Dream Team.

They should have remade Tomato Adventure instead. Fuck the M&L remakes.

They probably could have survived if Paper jam hadn't been so bad.
Disregarding the lack of any real crossing over between the two RPGs (which probably wasn't even AD's fault), the gameplay in Paper Jam was poorly conceived and only doubled down on the bad trends the series was settling on.

Test in this shit thread

It’s making remakes during switch game era that killed them

I'm surprised Nintendo never bought them.

They had no one who knew how to make switch games and were *actively* recruiting people who knew how, but they also couldn't just sit there and twiddle their thumbs producing nothing as they waited for people to be recruited. They are a third party company who paid to use the Mario license and had no help from Nintendo even in their dying breaths, so they had to get something out to stall for time and recoup costs.

This
Stupid decisions should not go unpunished.

>Every good company will die during your life
>We'll be left with EA, Activation, Blizzard and Beth

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if they hadn't wasted money on purchasing the license for the remakes, they wouldn't have had the need to develop games to make their money back.
It was their own retarded fault for putting their faith on remakes released on a dead console everyone had abandoned already

they didnt continue making 3DS games because they wanted to
nintendolife.com/news/2018/07/mario_and_luigi_developer_alphadream_recruiting_graphic_designers_for_switch_and_smartphone_projects
This is from July 2018

>Nintendo will now sit on tomato adventure like the rest of their dead franchises
Fuck

Bait or retard? Tons of companies have worked on the Mario IP.

Their mistake was making Paper Jam with the nuPaper Mario instead of the old one.

For me, DreamTeam being shit is what killed them

What killed them were games that were knee deep in fucking tutorials and were unbearably, unreasonably slow because of it. I have zero problem with games that are more of the same, hell I like it when they go for iterative changes. But I can't justify going through the same slow fucking beginning over and over

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You mean nobody was buying games since pirates blew the system wide open and destroyed any value a game can have

>Switch comes out in March 2017
>Start recruiting in July 2018

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pirates make less than 5% of the 3DS install base.

Nintendo did a complete 180 on how people handle Mario after the N64 era, this is evident based on the onslaught of dev discussions from the Japanese community and GDC. After cranking him out like a cheap whore between the NES-N64 era, they revised the licensing agreements. It's more hard to get the Mario ip than it is hello kitty, and hello kitty is notoriously hard to get. Nintendo actually has stricter guidelines than Disney has.

It wasn't just the individual licenses for the remakes that they needed to pay for, they had ridiculous debts on top of that.
kotaku.com/mario-luigi-rpg-developer-alphadream-has-gone-bankrup-1838692022
>According to Yahoo! Japan, revenue was sluggish in recent years and development costs drove the studio into the red. As of March 2018, AlphaDream was 400 million yen ($3.7 million) in debt.
Sorry for >kotaku but greentext is the only important part. They were also working on something regarding Tomato Adventure according to their last recruitment advertisement, so you can't say they didn't consider revisiting games from their library that didn't require licenses. There's only so much they could have done.

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>konami
When? Oh wait, Mario DDR was a thing.
>this also exists
youtube.com/watch?v=SmzuAp-lfzA

Lmao good joke

Tons of companies did in Mario's lifetime but a lot of that changed when the GameCube hit. Bamco has the easiest time to do collabs because Nintendo has stock in bamco and they've done a lot of arcade and amusement stuff for Nintendo. Unless you have a huge sack of cash and don't mind Nintendo breathing down your neck on how to depict and make a Mario game, you're not going to get your email even looked at. Sega is probably the only one that opens their asshole for anyone handling their stuff since they legitimately have a team so unmotivated to work on anything at all.

We were so fucking close bros, remember that teaser image that was on AlphaDream website? Pic related is the full artwork leaked by one of the artists after they went bankrupt.

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Fuck, sauce me up the link for this please

>Pokemon Sun and Moon release at the peak of 3DS piracy
>cia leaks over a weak in advance
>game still sells 16 million

With any luck, I'll die first.

>mfw I discover that he's actually a cat and not a bunny
Mind = Blown

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>is pokemon
You forgot that part.

Yeah, that was the weirdest shit.
Actually no, the weirdest shit was one of the late-game bosses dropping a diaper he was wearing that you can equip.
Why.

Mario and Luigi!
Mario and Luigi PLUS BABIES!
Mario and Luigi PLUS BOWSER!
Mario and Luigi, but Luigi Fell Asleep!
Mario and Luigi, and another Mario!

What's the difference between Pirating those last 4 games and replaying your copy of the first Mario and Luigi games 4 times over?