>Literally brings back the wrongfully killed, not just making fake cognitions >Performs the ultimate action in Jungian Psychology; Actualization. >With actualization and his own will and literally bends all of reality to his will, but makes it an altruistic one to end peoples suffering >Is completely selfless in this ambition to free mankind from their pain without it being a facade like the fog in P4, never once being egocentric in his goals
Seriously, I'd be hard pressed to even understand how Philemon would even be against him. He literally superseded all expectations and actualized the world himself.
Are you saying Joker doesn't have a messiah complex too?
Caleb Rogers
>Philemon Is he even a thing in the games after P2?
Owen Flores
Yeah but he looks like a faggot Plus it's not a good idea to let an idealistic and manipulative madman have complete control over everyone's lives
Dylan Mitchell
>actually thinking that nuWriters even know who Philemon is They even retconned the butterfly to be Lavenza in P5. In eyes of nuwriters, Persona unironically started at 3.
Ending of P2EP explained it as him being the butterfly, which was later confirmed by devs for P3/P4 then then in P5 it get reconned into butterfly just being another velvet attendant - Lavenza.
Brayden Reed
I still say even if his world is not perfect it's still a straight upgrade from our current world.
they've confirmed that he is canonically the butterfly since P3. So the Velvet Room workers are still helping you at his behest to keep the better nature of humans empowered, but because its not about the wager with Ngarly he never comes himself.
I understand the conceptual idea of the problems with that much consolidated power, but the dude legitimately seems like a self-sacrificing individual who regardless did something nobody else could, he bent the world to his desire and did so altruistically with nothing to gain for himself (he already gave up on his life and his GF). He just wants you to be happy and unraped.
The Rape is one thing, but Joker literally kills Haru's dad and Wakaba for a 2nd time with his actions because they were legitimately revived by Adam Kadmon.
Julian Collins
P5 is a Chaosfag game so the only reason he's portrayed as evil is because he's Lawfag representative. Atlus is also notoriously biased towards Chaos and always presenting Law in negative light, this is especially visible in SMT games. In SMT1 Chaosfags just want freedom for everyone while Lawfags are portrayed as literally worse than Hitler. In SMT2 the hate for Lawfags goes so deep that even on Law route you're forced to kill Lawfags and YHVH by teaming up with Satan to use Death Star laser to shoot YHVH in the face. SMT3 I hope I don't even need to explain seeing as it doesn't even have a Law route, only varying degrees of Neutral (Reasons, regular Neutral) and two Chaos ones (Chaos and True Chaos). SMT4 Duology again is a Neutral/Chaosfag game with Law not even being an option in Apocalypse. Catherine again had no Law route at all until Full Body re-release in which they made the Law route a literal faggot route.
tl;dr Atlus, being Japs, hates the very idea of God/Universal Good because they're soulless bugmen so all their games are Chaos/Neutral biased
Bentley Stewart
I played persona 5 but I don't remember this guy
Elijah Ortiz
its from royal
William Sanders
they changed the final boss?
Parker Clark
I don't get how he was wrong either. It' true that it's better that people face their problems on their own, and he even admits this himself, but what about people living in impoverished or war-torn nations who have to live in complete suffering? Is it fair to tell them to just deal with it when someone with the ability to relieve that suffering on an unreal scale comes along?
Elijah Gomez
But SMT2 favoured the law route and chaos in SMT4 fucking sucks
Luke Watson
>But SMT2 favoured the law route Please read my post instead of skimming it, since I addressed this.
Jacob Phillips
The PT are selfish chaosfags, they want the to keep the rest of the world suffering so they can achieve their version of happiness.
Evan Mitchell
>They the Law route a literal faggot route What did Atlus mean by this?
The Law representative in Full Body, Rin, is a crossdressing boy. It's a homo route.
Carter Powell
I suppose, after the original final boss if you max one of the new confidants the game continues for another palace and thus that boss serves as the technical final one.
Carter Mitchell
He's basically the machines from The Matrix.
Easton Morgan
>Catherine again had no Law route at all until Full Body re-release in which they made the Law route a literal faggot route. katherine was literally the law route, what the fuck are you smoking?
Cooper Sullivan
It's more because Eastern religions have always been more bent towards gods being just as if not more flawed than the humans they preside over. It's why the Izanagi/Izanami cycle came up so often.
Adrian Hall
>HAHA ZA WARUDO XD KILL ALL JOJOFAGS
Wyatt Garcia
What the fuck am i reading, Katherine was always the lawfag route.
Jack Torres
>they changed the final boss? Yes, Demiurge is now at a 3/4 point in the game, they added extra 1/4 of the game taking place after Demiruge with a new, harder final boss.
Adam Morris
How does that mask stay on?
Brandon Smith
Because almost every anti-escapism moral is executed poorly, that's why.
Jose Stewart
He locks the world in a time loop where no progress can be made. People need hardships to grow.
