Why are there so many people that claim to love SFIV but hate SFV?
Why are there even more people that pretend that Third Strike is their favourite fighting game ever?
What is it specifically that people hate so much about V that the other games do so well?
Same reason faggots claim DoA5 is so much better than 6. I still haven’t figured it out either ...
SFV has had so many issues since launch, some of which have never been addressed to this day.
Do your homework and search for the information yourself scrub I'm not spoonfeeding you.
Because they are very different games and thus people have preferences. SFIV was an expressive game with a high skill ceiling; SFV is cookie cutter and dumbed down in a lot of ways in comparison.
I've been playing it since launch, the game was fucking shit when it launched but thats because it was launched without extremely basic features. It was pretty much a paid alpha test. However, by the time Arcade Edition was out everything that should have been in was in.
What the fuck is still apparently so terrible about it?
Everyone I ask just gives me an answer like yours "heh, if you don't know why you're a dumdum, look it up yourself stupid, the game is obviously terrible and if you don't know why you're a scrub"
But why is it terrible?
Lets assume for a second here that I really am just a scrub that can't see why, give me a basic breakdown about why the game is bad.
What is it about the neutral, the buttons, the hitboxes, hurtboxes, prejump frames, hitstun, whatever that makes SFV so bad?
Doesn't have to be a deep explaination, but just a basic summary of why Third Strike and IV are based but V is apparently one of the worst games ever made.
I'd like SFV a lot more if they didn't release a version of the game that included everything that I had to buy through DLC for waaay more money.
I'm done support Capcom.
Didnt get any resident evil remakes. Didnt get Devil May Cry.
Im just done. Fuck them.
It's just the Street Fighter Cycle. Every time a new one comes out, people will claim the previous one was better.
The Elena/Rolento/Evil Ryu/Decapre era of Ultra was honestly more tolerable than SFV's design as a whole.
This is the biggest problem with V, not the actual gameplay, but the way they've been treating their fans with the monetization of the game.
All I fucking got for preordering the game at full price was one of 100 costumes for Chun Li that I will literally never use, and the privilege of buying the ability to use DLC characters in training mode at full price or risk getting my ass beaten by people abusing OP new characters that I literally can't bring in the lab
Capcom's just trying to outdo Namco in shameless monetisation.
namco has them beat. they literally charged money for frame data
It has no zoning. Zoning equals Street Fighter for me. (yes I didn't like 3s either, ST and SF4 are my favorites). By the time Akuma was out, I was completely bored with the game, and Tekken 7 made me get into that series. Now I'm bored as fuck of T7 because the devs are retarded and online is even more trash than what is in SFV. When's SF6 / new KoF?
>It has no zoning.
I beg to differ, main Zangief for a few months and tell me SFV has no zoning
This would take 5 seconds to google, to put it in retard speak. Its like playing checkers instead of chess. Player expression down the toilet, there is only 1 way each character is meant to played (moves are less versatile across the board), removal of many moves/ simplification of more complex characters. Extremely high damage combined with an overly aggressive game design leads to volatile matches where winning doesn't feel earned and loosing feels bullshit. Game design catering toward the viewer, comebacks are now so common place they aren't hype anymore, nothing is hype anymore because its all forced and never contrasted with enough baseline footsies. V-trigger is a shit mechanic, id rather have a universal mechanic and have the characters just have a bigger standard moveset. Shitty character design, outsourcing 3d models on top of that.
All the bullshit they pulled with the release of the game didn't help but its no longer relevant.
>Why are there even more people that pretend that Third Strike is their favourite fighting game ever?
For some 3S (and Guilty Gear) are the fighting games that attract the biggest amount of posers who haven't played either of these games and just parrot opinions from e-celebs.
V isn't a bad game its bad relative to the series. Compared to a lot of modern fighters its still better and this is why nobody plays fighting games anymore.
The oki game is degenerate. The universal lack of meterless reversals means any idiot can just go unga on you after a single knockdown since meter reversals rarely ever lead into oki. Pair this with a lack of any throw protection whatsoever and throws that are unbreakable on reaction and now any mouthbreathing ken player can put you in a blender and make your life miserable by dashing in and face rolling without any skill or effort involved.
All they have to do to fix the game is add 3 frames of throw protection. almost every other issue has been fixed by now, but they won't fix throws because then the average moron that plays this game would be forced to face reality and realize that their rushdown and mixup game sucks shit and is barely held together by how strong throws are by default.
Complete lack of versatility in the characters. They're all designed around performing a specific set of functions making matches not about how your opponent is going to play the character, but how well they're going to use their designated mix-up that everybody else if forced to use to varying degrees of success.
I didn't like SFIV either, but if I had to choose between it and SFV then it'd be SFIV without a second of hesitation. As far as 3S goes, I don't even know why it's in the same conversation as Ono Fighter. I'm more of an ST/HF player when it comes to SF, but 3S is extremely satisfying to play all around.
>tfw fighting games are basically dead if you just like traditional 2D fighters and don't want to play anime fighters, tag team mahvel shit, or 3D brawlers like Tekken and Soul Calibur
I'M SO FUCKING SICK OF ANIME WHY THE FUCK IS EVERYTHING TRYING TO BE A MORE OBNOXIOUS GUILTY GEAR OR A REALLY SIMPLE MAHVEL?
>All they have to do to fix the game is add 3 frames of throw protection.
This would literally banish Zangief to Z tier forever
He would not be able to recover from a nerf that big
Thats only because Zangiefs command throws are stupid slow in this game to keep him from instantly winning the game from a single tick throw. Put throw protection in, and then he can have his 1F throws back.
Because SFV had:
>16 characters on launch
>Shit season pass system compared to SFIV where you just got all the characters and stages with the money you spent
>Piecemeal DLC out the ass, including for stages, meant that most people stuck with launch stages which all sucked ass
>Grindan Survival for colors for your fucking characters (even for the costumes that you BOUGHT in Season 1)
>Installed a literal fucking rootkit on my PC
>Shit online
>V-Trigger is pretty much just a really slow FADC that your coolest moves are locked behind
>30% of the cast looks incredible in the new artstyle, the other 70% look like fractured ass
>Took them years to put in fucking Arcade Mode
As it is now, it's an okay fighting game except for the fucked online. It just took four years to get there and tons of missteps that shouldn't have been there in the first place.
>put throw protection in and they can make his throw even faster
BUT THAT WOULD JUST FUCK WITH HIM EVEN MORE, ALL OF HIS SETUPS AND FRAME DATA WORKS AROUND THE SPD BEING 5F
Making SPD 3F would unironically be a huge nerf simply because Zangief would lose his SPD loop oki pressure, which is basically the only thing that makes him scary at all in SFV.
It might be because it's shit.
>Why are there so many people that claim to love SFIV but hate SFV?
probably their first fighting game
>Why are there even more people that pretend that Third Strike is their favourite fighting game ever?
the game has the same stigma about that guilty gear goes, it's 'hard' game and cool to like it
Yeah but every Tekken game, third strike and IV were shit too and people still like those
You're not defending SFV when Ono got demoted for it.
The weird thing is that I find third strike way easier to play thanks to the universal parry and all the other bullshit mechanics
It would be a fair trade since he'd have a wake up option other than wake up super, so he wouldnt be forced to eat shit on wake up harder than any other character in the game anymore.
Because they want to seem like their opinion holds more value by pretending to like 4. Even though literally everyone was begging for it to end by the end of of 4s life cycle. 5 turned out the way it did entirely because it was a reaction to all the shit people hated about 4 and the. conveniently forgot when they realized they didn’t like 5 either
Arc sys is the new king. I realised for me, the entire genre might as well not exist without Capcom and SNK. I tried repeatedly to find a new fighting game series to get into and just couldn't find one.
That's a really bad opinion. Wow, good job!
>16 chars on launch
meanwhile granblue released with like 8, but everyone loved it
>everyone loved it
That's why everybody's playing it online right?
Theyve pretty much fixed the game anyone telling you its worse than 4 is just another faggot mindlessly riding the bandwagon.
is sf4 the new game that everyone loves but nobody plays?
Ono deserved to get demoted because of how poorly he handled SFV, but that doesn't mean SFV itself is a terrible game, Ono is just a fucking idiot
All they did was add shit that should have been there from the start
That's not a fix
The gameplay is still trash and that can't be fixed
>meanwhile granblue released with like 8, but everyone loved it
Which is wack because it plays a lot like SFV except on actual retarded babby mode. Its like SFV but toned down so GG players can handle it
If you really believed that what fighting do you even play at that point? Marvel or SNK shit?
I constantly see people complain about shitting on SFV for no reason but what I see are many people who voice genuine complains. In contrast there are people who say SFV is better than 3 and 4 and never have an explanation why.
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It plays like anime easymode SF2
Way more than like SFV