D44M and Eternal have gameplay like Painkiller

D44M and Eternal have gameplay like Painkiller.
When will Doom be Doom again?

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never, you have a trillion wads to enjoy doom as it was.

fuck off

Then what IS Doom to you?

E1M1 through MAP33.

*MAP32
Stupid typo

Never, because zoomies don't like NOT being hand-held, and only wanna "feel badass" by watching literal cutscenes of an angry dude beating things up in first-person.

Better wait for the actually good, oldschool themed shooter.

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What is the meaning of "gameplay like painkiller" instead of classic doom?

Painkiller and Serious Sam are literal wave-shooters in (more or less) closed arenas.
Doom is more open-ended, has pre-placed enemy mobs, and more focus on exploration.

What the nuDooms do is practically a heavily streamlined version of PK's gameplay, mixed with Half-Life style combat arena, with tons of stupid 2010's cancer (RPG menu surfing, cinematic melee kills, slow movement speed...) tacked on top.

Every bit of Wrath gameplay footage I've seen makes the game look like it will be nothing but wide open rooms.

Doom 2016 feels kind of Unreal Tournament-ish.

Doom Eternal is kind of its own thing.

It has plenty of corridors as well. It's pretty fun, though I feel the sign posting within the level design could be improved. When you start a level, it's all pretty clear, but as you open up a level more, it becomes harder to figure out where you're supposed to backtrack to.

>Hmm, what if we took God Of War from the PS2, dressed it up like Halo, and called it "DOOM"??
...and that's how D2016 and Eternal were born.

>Slow movement
I'm gonna stop you right there

Not really?
That said, id had serious problems trying to figure out what 2016 should be, and when it was coming out, had very little faith in it. Eternals development was more confident, though they just built on the success of 2016 without really considering if it was anything like the original Doom games. I respect them for trying something different, but as a fan of old-school shooters, 2016 and Eternal don't really hold my interest.

You absolutely do run slower than in Doom

>Doom 2016 feels kind of Unreal Tournament-ish.
it fuckin wishes

Painkiller >>>>>>> OG DOOM

people think OG DOOM is good are retarded or sourceport zoomers

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>comparing first level of Doom to fairly far into D44M
Bait

Doom vanilla maps are pretty boring desu
Dooms gameplay is entirely unrealized by its maps
Megawads are the true doom

Yeah Im so sure the mechanics of OG DOOM change so dramatically in later levels!

You get movement abilities later in the game right?

Play Dusk.

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You do have a run key which isnt being used in the webm that makes you faster than anything eternal does

>tfw creator of the D44M footage is buttblasted he can't SS/Gaus his way through Eternal

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Agreed. Vanilla maps are just the baseline, wads are Doom at its best.

>You get movement abilities later in the game right?
Yep. Rocket jumping, for example. Also the webm isn't using the run key because it's bait.

Dusk is ugly and utterly fails at trying to look like quake era but it is a good game.

ok faggot

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I'M FUCKING ROCK HARD HOLY SHIT

Its not though. One of the first levels is a Gothic catacomb sewer. The open areas are sorta like hub worlds as dark souls style shortcuts are unlocked that connect the levels of the game.

>MUHH MUHHH RUN KEY
>all enemies are slow, braindead and shoot slow projectiles made for normal speed

Terrible terrible game

shoo shoo zoom zoom

This is the true Doom game tier list. Anybody who disagrees is gay. (I included the mobile ones but not DLC's/expansions like RoE, Sigil and Thy Flesh Consumed)

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Not an argument

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>eternal above Doom
>d44m above Doom 2
Literally deepthroat a shotgun in real life

It doesnt mention that it was made by the folks who made Arcane Dimensions for Quake

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Ok Purist.

Try using -fast then, but I doubt youve even played it

>facts are bait
????

This looks like turok 2 kinda. I'm excited