>japanese character design
Japanese character design
Fun fact: This design of Maria came from SMT NINE, not SJR. You actually fight her in that form in the game.
Ever since Kaneko retired there has not been one good design
Every time a nu-SMT game has a new demon that looks good, 5 minutes of research shows it was from an obscure spinoff game from 1996 or sonething similar
>”fun fact” literally everyone who knows about this design outside P5R knows
What a retard.
western character design
>Medusa (SMTIVA)
>YHVH (Demonized)
>Vishnu Flynn
>The rest of The Powers
Kaneko fags can't stop seething, can they?
>Every time a nu-SMT game has a new demon that looks good
IV and IV Apocalypse are the only SMT games that have been made since he retired as the main series artist. What the hell are you talking about? None of the new demons or the redesigns used his ideas as references or past SMT games.
Yeah, it’s amazing, I know.
Doi's designs all look the fucking same, they all have this like overlapping plate style thing. Fucking terrible successor to Kaneko, he probably isn't even a /his/ or mythologyfag either.
How is smt nine? I remember going through the wiki for p5 years ago and seeing that some demons from p5 have only ever been in nine so I'm curious about it
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>Doi's designs all look the fucking same, they all have this like overlapping plate style thing.
And Kaneko literally makes any humanoid demon look like a porcelain doll. Are we really going to go down this hole? Most of the demons Doi got to design himself were in SMTA and that was the powers. Demons like Vishnu and others from its religion have tons of art and statues where they are covered in plated metals and jewels similar to what he went with. He actually followed the aesthetic.
>glue a bunch of random, unrelated animals together
>doitards: wow this is deep
I would take any persona over this
Maria is actually hands down the best SMT demon design.
>it's okay when Kaneko does it
>half naked purple guy
sums up about 90% of kaneko's designs
>locus, Snake, Frog, etc.
>unrelated
Yeah, you're just brainlessly bitching over not being able to suck Kaneko's cock anymore. It's funny how Kanekofags will lose their shit over designs that follow the lore or aesthetic of the demon/god they are based off of out of ignorance but praise Kaneko's Mara or other dick headed demon designs. "hur dur mara seduced someone in his lore so lets make him a dick! lolol best design evar!"
If you're talking about OP:
>The lion, the hawk and the bull are part of the "tetramorph," an allegorical figure for the four evangelists and represent the angelic order ofCherubim. The fish is a generic symbol for christianity, while the tyrannosaurus rex at the bottom of the statue may refer toSatan, who is at times depicted as a snake or dragon being stepped upon by Maria, symbolizing the victory of good over evil. Maria’s main body is also surrounded by a "mandorla," an almond shaped halo used in early christian art to represent heavenly apparitions, especially of Jesus and Mary.
Alright, go ahead and explain it, including the edgy bat wings
>kaneko literally makes any humanoid demon look like a porcelain doll
Only for his later designs, and even then there's a lot of variance between them. Doishit looks like it belongs in a shitty kaimen rider episode.
Show me two kaneko designs that fit that description.
Why are they so angry?
Reminder that Kanekofags shat on Doi's Satan for being random an inaccurate, despite it literally being based of his hydra interpetation in some biblical text. Sure Kaneko's version of Satan is infinitely better but these guys are just talking out of their ass when they shit on Doi. Just look at . The only figure in its design that isn't part of one of the great original sin causations is the demon heads.
>Doishit looks like it belongs in a shitty kaimen rider episode.
>Let me constantly hold onto Odin and the shitty Zeus design as a crutch to constantly label all of Doi's art as Kamen rider
That's two demons out of how many?
He sent frogs, locusts and snakes on the egyptians
Like okay not reading the Bible or going to church can excuse a lot but come fucking on, those are the are the animals associated with the seven plagues, satan, baphomet, and false idol Moses came back to find his followers worshiping. They're not deep cut references, they've very explicit and obvious Bible references.
I mean bro, have you SERIOUSLY never seen the Prince of Egypt? That alone should have filled you in on half of them.
>The only figure in its design that isn't part of one of the great original sin causations is the demon heads.
I feel the central demon is also excusable as a standin for generic demonic imagery, and the figure on top was always obviously the Holy Spirit in my eyes given its incorporeal.
I don't like the design much but yeah it's literally just a mashup of Bible references and Christian iconography.
>Dude Prince of Egypt
Now compare that to:
And even if the references check out, the design still looks like shit
Doi is a hundred years too early to take on Kaneko
>Alright, go ahead and explain it, including the edgy bat wings
How about googling each animal and then adding "In bible" or "Biblical lore"? Seriously, the snake has to be the most obvious one there. YHVH takes that form when the main cast finally look at him for what he really is, a demon. He then gets demoted to that form upon their observation. The entire body looks like a demon with bat wings because it's a demon, retard. The snake is obvious, the frog and locus are from the plague, etc. They're his heads to represent that these original sins or great catastrophes that were supposed to be tests or penances were just him being evil. He is the snake, the plague of locus, etc. YHVH is a demon.
>>And even if the references check out, the design still looks like shit
Even most Kanekofags will say they like the YHVH design. You just dislike it because your on the extremist spectrum. Regardless, you still outed yourself as blindly talking out of your ass by pointing at a design filled with references that everyone else got but yourself. Pathetic.
>Now compare that to:
Are you literally, unironically fucking retarded? Doi didn't rip it from Prince of Egypt, I listed it as an example of a very popular film which should have made the Biblical references obvious to you even if you'd never gone to church or read the fucking bible.
Christ.
>it's another Kaneko vs Doi virgin thread
Yasuda chads where we at
>I feel the central demon is also excusable as a standin for generic demonic imagery, and the figure on top was always obviously the Holy Spirit in my eyes given its incorporeal.
My interpretation of the two demon heads is that the main black head is supposed to show that he's a demon. I further explained my understanding of it in . YHVH may not have been the actual snake to cause one of the great original sins but it was his doing, making one of his heads a snake to represent him as the great snake. The demon head is following the same idea. The white body may be YHVH himself, or at least the closest thing to what he's supposed to look like.
>Reminder that Kanekofags shat on Doi's Satan for being random an inaccurate, despite it literally being based of his hydra interpetation in some biblical text.
Except that it's explicitly supposed to be Jewish Satan and not Christian (because christian satan is the same as Lucifer) and then Doi draws Christian Satan heads on top of a block of black sludge with peglegs and retardedly oversized hands. This design is fucking awful
>those are the are the animals associated with the seven plagues
Why is there a goat, a bull, a demon, a human and bat wings? Where are the lice and flies?
>satan
Why is satan glued onto YHVH when he can literally be in your party as you're fighting this mess?
>baphomet
What does Baphomet have to do with YHVH? Why not glue any random demon onto him if this is enough justification?
>Even most Kanekofags will say they like the YHVH design
Speak for yourself
how did this man get a job, his art is genuinely some of the worst art I've ever seen in a official game
this is why you practice loomis kids
And it always starts with Doifags. They are no different than the SMT extremists who go into Persona threads just to shit it up.
cringe
sorry I couldn't see your post over the immense 5-head and anti-gravity tits in yasuda's terrible, terrible "art".
>Why is there a goat, a bull, a demon, a human and bat wings? Where are the lice and flies?
If you read the rest of that sentence you'd have your answer you absolute fucking spaz
you have shit taste but it's okay I respect your opinion.
Pot meet kettle