What is with all the hate for DS2?

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What is this, 2014 again? Nobody hates DS2 anymore.

9/10 on almost every website, VERY POSITIVE reviews almost everywhere. Only hated on Yas Forums, see it for yourself

it was an le epic maymay to hate ds2 right after release. that's all there is to it

It leaned into all the worst parts of Dark Souls 1. All while having ugly visuals and a bland story.

Dark Souls 2 was made by people who didn't get Dark Souls 1 beyond the memes

cause it is shit, ugly as sin, fucked the lore, felt like a chinese knockoff, terrible level design, much worse enemy design than previous entries, felt generic and uninspired, i forced myself to finish it and never played it again.

At the time DS2 came out people who wanted exactly DS1 hated DS2 because it changed things that were in DS1.

Once time passed, DLCs came out which improved the game greatly from its admittedly very flawed state, and now it's regarded fairly well, even on Yas Forums. It's just that you had to wipe the vitriol off to see the game on its own merits, and on its own merits it stands well.

But hey, LOOK AT ALL THE STUFF YOU CAN PUT ON YOUR VIRTUAL DRESS UP DO... CHARACTER!
Just don't ask why a spider is carrying around a Zweihänder or a little kobold dog thing an entire Black Knight armory.

Ook eek eek

Needs more buzzwords NPC

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OP here, honestly I feel this is the truth. DS2 was my first souls series game and I loved it. I have beaten all and still favor it.

It’s a Yas Forumseddit meme. The game is very well regarded outside of Yas Forums, but the bosses are generally seen as trash that’s it. Dark Souls 3 is seen as the worst game.

3 is also very well regarded out of Yas Forums, just a reminder. I don't disagree with you but don't forget.

Not really. Nobody really sees it as it’s own game. It’s always referred to as Dark Souls, and it gets plenty of hate

I think DaS2 is an ok but heavily flawed game that's nowhere near as good as the first two games.

The thing that pisses me off the most about it isn't even the games fault; it's that it somehow became the shitfling magnet for the entire series, and with that I mean that later entries that also were flawed, sometimes even more so than this game, for some reason get off scot free.

Ds3 is hated on Yas Forums because it fucks up the parry fishing backstab circling trash players

PvP is irrelevant. It’s hated on Yas Forums because it’s actually a shit game. It isn’t underrated like DS2. I played DS2 expecting pure AIDS and it was a overall improvement on DS1 wtf

replayed dark souls 2 after around 4 years and did the dlcs, it honestly feels worse than I remember. some of the areas are horrendously designed like iron keep where 5 samurais aggro onto you in pairs from a mile away, shrine of amana where you're pelted by magicians the entire time or the black gulch which is just the black gulch

Actually DaS3 is seen as the best game outside Yas Forums, there was a reddit soulsborne poll and DaS3 got the first place

The DaS2 launch shit the bed. They started off with that massive graphical downgrade that just pissed everyone off and really highlighted what was wrong with the industry at that time. You had a Dark Souls successor that had a very tenuous link to the first game with everything feeling like a rehash while also having the level design being a massive step back from the first. A lot of the fun broken bullshit you could pull off in the first game got nerfed or removed to balance a PvP mode that most people didn't buy the game for or cared about. The DLC and SotFS really helped the game to a much better state than when it started.

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>What is with all the hate for DS2?
Because DS2fags constantly shitpost in every DS thread. Also because DS2 is easily the worst Souls game.

nice try op, Dark Souls 2 will always be the retarded black sheep of the series and no amount of revisionist bullshit can change that

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where is OP so he can see how his game is so 'hated and underrated'

Yes. Your point?

>adventure, exploration, sense of danger, invaders
Demons Souls
Dark Souls
Dark Souls 2

>muh bosses XD
Dark Souls 3

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It's a decent game, but mechanically it feels, looks and sounds worse than Dark Souls 1. DLC is pretty good tho. Still my least favorite soulsborne game.

You forgot to add Bloodborne

>actual good games
Demons Souls
Dark Souls
Dark Souls 3
Bloodborne

>shit games
Dark Souls 2

based

If anything, it seems like most normalfaggots are DS2 apologists these days.
It always comes across in the same way as when women defend pit bulls purely to be contrarian to what they think other people think, where in presuming the prejudices of others in order to challenge them, they are themselves acting out of prejudice.
Make no mistake though, DS2 was a bad direction for the series.
It improved on a lot of mechanical shit, but that was never what mattered.
The world was shit.
DS1 worked because it created a world that made you want to explore it.
People want to want.
Once the game has made you want more of it, you will rationalize away all the flaws, because you aren't so much judging the game as you are judging the feeling of wanting something and being free to pursue it.
People put up with the bullshit of DS1 because putting up with the bullshit was something you did in order to pursue what the game already succeeded in making you want more of.
DS2's world was flat, 1 dimensional and gay.
Majula and the Forest of Giants were great, but then it became clear that there was no world, just a unrelated collection of levels which had already past the peak.
The DLC zones were really good too, probably the best individual levels in any of the games, but again, there was no world, they were just isolated levels in their own little pocket dimensions.
The world in DS2 could have just been replaced with a level selection menu without changing the experience in any way.
If this were done in DS1, it would have been just as bad as DS2.

reddit is incredibly irrelevant bro. It’s only relevant as the laughing stock of the internet

Oh yeah, you’re right. I’ll add that to the adventure, exploration and sense of danger section :^)