>Game emphasizes that a monster and human soul is a powerful combination
>You can easily beat a god that has seven of them along with an even more powerful being that has all the souls in the underground simply because “it refused!!”
This game has some of the shittiest writing I’ve ever seen.
Are you new to video games perchance?
flowey had no soul until he got the human souls and asriel was just all the monster souls, no human.
No I’m calling out shitty writing.
You look deeper into the games plot and it had zero human casualties during the whole Monster vs Humans. Like what was even the point?
He absorbed all the human souls too didn’t he?
There’s still no threat that he’ll destroy the world at all or use it in his faggot god tantrums.
>Looking deep into a video game's plot
You know that people beat gods all the time in video games, right?
>forgetting the souls rebelled against Flowey
Frisk Basically just stalled the fight until he won
Kill yourself
>Waah you can beat the game, how terrible
>How come the good guy wins when the bad guy is OBJECIVLY stronger
Getting mad at that kind of shit in non interactive media is one layer of autism but this is a mille-feuille.
no, i remember it being
Asriel fight+all monsters except napstablook souls
Omega flowey = the human souls
But flowey itself which turns into both of these doesn't have any soul in him so he has one group or the other
either way it is still overkill, but he didn't have every single one.
This same thing happens regardless of if you kill someone. The game has virtually no stakes at all. You’re just a kid that even monster god can’t beat.
Imagine being such a brainlet you cannot even grasp the simplest parts of Undertale's plot.
>no monster soul
>if i remember correctly the red determination soul is established to be the most powerful type of soul
>the souls themselves rebelled against and weakened flowey
You forget the player themselves are a kind of entity involved in the game. The power to save and load, etc etc. over rules any in-world power basically.
Now is that good writing? Debatable, but forgetting the logic the game is working on and then saying it’s bad is a sure sign you are a retard
They don't explicitly tell you that you can't before letting you
The souls told him to fuck off. Did you even play the game or did you just watch a lets play?
Player > final boss > humans > monster
How is this so fucking hard to understand you have two endings that flat out show you that and the characters keep mentioning the reset thing. You should figure out that the player is the bigger fish in this with the gay munchkin, murderplant and faceless MC pointing out at game mechanics and even then the game kisses Earthbound's sweaty ballsack so a homage like this is expected.
If I tell you that you can’t be an idiot, it doesn’t stop you from being one.
>They don't explicitly tell you that you can't before letting you
?????
Nigga, almost every godly entity in any game goes on some tirade about how impossible it is for a mere human to stand up to them before immediately getting bodied.
Anonymous, you absolute fucking moron, you don't beat Flowey OR Asriel.
Flowey gets overthrown by the SOULs themselves. You don't even meaningfully scratch him. He was trolling you.
And you make Asriel give up of his own accord.
Idiot.
>can't do shit to him until the souls rebel
>can't do shit to Asriel until you appeal to his emotions
>human souls win the fight against Flowey, not you
>Asriel willingly gave up in his fight, you didn't beat him
But what can I expect from a retarded fucking phonenigger.
This doesn’t hold much weight when the same thing happens in both neutral and pacifist the same thing happens. You’re not even at risk of dying before you convince the souls to help you.
>You’re not even at risk of dying before you convince the souls to help you.
He kills you and keeps resetting. Seriously did you actually play the game or did you just watch a lets play? L
What does that have to do with anything? Are you trying to imply the souls shouldn't help you if you've killed someone?
>You’re not even at risk of dying before you convince the souls to help you
Yes you are. The game gives you a pretty big margin of error but you can absolutely die and Flowey closes your game and waits for you to come back for another try.
If you're bad at the game Frisk dies a lot, though.
Are you bothered that the game can't pull a gun out of your monitor and shoot you or something?
You can’t really die to Asriel but you can die to Flowey technically.
Although it sounds like you’re complaining about challenge now rather than writing.
You’ve also ignored the player > everything else rule that’s been established by a few other posts
You’re calling it good writing when a god who can savestate the universe can get magically overthrown by a little kid.
Wow great argument user you sure convinced me.
>Undertale was 20 years ago
Where does the time go...
When his power source that allows him to do so gets gimped, then its not a plot hole or anything. It’s just cliche.