Can we finally admit that Fallout 3 is a good game?

Can we finally admit that Fallout 3 is a good game?

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It doesn't feel like an official retail release game. It feels like a mod of itself.

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Yes. Based Bethesda is still doing their thing while Obsidian got bought out by Microsoft. I wish I could dab with Pete Hines and Todd Howard

and fallout 3 didn't feel like an oblivion mod?

Both are shit. Bethesda is shit.

I was talking about Fallout 3. New Vegas inherited shitty assets but they managed to pull off a dynamic world instead of the static sandbox that Bethesda made.

keep telling yourself that

No.
The gunplay is shit and the roleplay is shit.
At least New Vegas had some things going for it outside of the fucking terrible combat. I realize that to some of you, this shit is retro (hard to come to grips with that) but it wasn't good then.

Who cares, It's a bad RPG. A lot of stuff doesn't make sense.
>guy is able to hack into the overseer's terminal
>going to the fucking pripyat of the game in like two hours
I literally quit after that. It's an insult to your intelligence.

Fallout 3 IS a good game. It's just not a good Fallout game.

Both games are Amerijank

I tried to play fallout 4 but my nerves lasted only 40 minutes. Is this any better?

New Vegas had a million bugs on launch and it took several months before it was close to playable but by then all the reviews were already cemented.

>good game
>dogshit gameplay
no

Yes and?

No.

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3 was the one with a million bugs on release, New Vegas had some but nowhere near as bad. Apart from a severe bug with one of the first updates (which wasn't the release or review version) NV has pretty much always been more stable than 3, on any platform. People just didn't notice with 3 because they were so amazed by it being Oblivion with guns.

It's the same shit but with even worse gameplay.

>unironically caring about the opinions of cum-guzzling """journalists"""
you really should kill yourself, dude.

Obsidian got a shitload of the benefit of the doubt on here, even back at release. They were hiding high off the reputation that Kotor 2 had (thinking that they would be able to put together a masterpiece if they just had the time). It was probably true back then, and it was probably true with New Vegas.

Would have been nice if somebody had given them a real chance before the big industry shift, and a lot of financial and personnel compromises had to be made at Obsidian. People don't realize how fucking close some of these dev houses come to either being phone game devs or not existing at all. It's sad because the industry lends itself to dissolving or fucking things up that way.

goddamn new vegas is a good ass game
just started playing again a couple of days ago and it's really spectacular
fallout 3 is fine but the story is so catastrophically terrible and the writing is so juvenile and terrible that it's only fun for the exploration

>best writing
My ass. You aren't even the protagonist. James literally went around trying his damnedest to find a way to reboot project purity. His son is a glorified bodyguard.

Yeah. They both have wacky shit, but New Vegas feels more coherent and living world. Maybe because it builds on F1 and F2 story and lore more.

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>one of the most interest characters in the entire game is in a wacky sidequest
>because she's in a wacky sidequest there's almost no meaningful interaction with her
Sasuga, Bethesda.

>no meaningful interaction with her
Not making her a bangable companion, you mean...

Holy based

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Exactly, missed opportunity for sure, especially considering she's more interesting than any of the companions you actually get.
But even in her own questline, it's way too simplistic. You either leave her in charge of the town or you don't, in which case she just... disappears? Thanks, Bethesda.

No. Also, only a faggot like OP would consider those awards accomplishments. Why is OP always such a faggot? Stop it OP. Why did you make that image? Stop being a faggot. Shit like this is why your parents are divorced.

I like the atmosphere and world. Content is pretty trash.

Nah.

It was really disheartening for me to play FO1&2 after starting the series with 3, and realize that 3 largely just takes a bunch of plot points from those games and mostly uses them in worse ways.
Like how Super Mutants are just kind of there, or howthe end of the sidequest where you go back to Vault 101 is just a less interesting version of 1's ending.
New Vegas is like a breath of fresh air in retrospect.

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